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On January 07 2026 22:20 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2026 15:34 Vivax wrote:
By the looks of it, a lot of South American are going to have their leaders overthrown.
This isn‘t just Trump though. His advisors are relevant.
Not going to be a prolonged war like Vietnam either so the desired effect on the economy as a side motive remains questionable…
Is the US population so easily receptive to the warmongering propaganda ? The implication here reads like a prolonged war has a better effect on the economy? I don't follow that. Is that what you meant? For example Iraq and Afghanistan were a long time, and obviously helped extract taxpayer wealth to the military industrial complex, but apart from that I've never heard whether downstream economic effects are known to have been beneficial. Or is the point in this strategic case of Venezuela you would need a prolonged occupation to guarantee partnership in the oil industry?
I don‘t think he‘s entirely in the wrong with forcing Venezuela into the US sphere from a point of view where he acts in national interest. Venezuela isn‘t exactly all cotton candy and fluff or friend to the US.
The escalatory rhetoric that goes on is worrying. And he‘s put himself on the same tier as Russia.
Anything he does surely has an economic background too.
Late stage capitalism that assigns itself bullshit tasks to force a picture of growth. Like giving guns to haphazardly assembled bataillons and telling them to use them. Or forcing the population to take precautions against the reckless behaviour.
Most potential targets have nothing of value or significant defenses aside from nukes for the overkill army to cause it to create demand anyway.
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On January 08 2026 07:44 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2026 22:41 Gorsameth wrote:On January 07 2026 15:34 Vivax wrote:
By the looks of it, a lot of South American are going to have their leaders overthrown.
This isn‘t just Trump though. His advisors are relevant.
Not going to be a prolonged war like Vietnam either so the desired effect on the economy as a side motive remains questionable…
Is the US population so easily receptive to the warmongering propaganda ? More that the US population doesn't actually do anything if their government goes in a completely different direction. Where other countries would see protests and disruption if their government decided to go to war for shits and giggles, the US just shrugs and goes about their business. Funny you should say that, because there's a news story today about a Teacher getting arrested in Minnesota after attending a protest about Venezuela, she was arrested on camera right after giving an interview with a reporter. Another woman was shot today by ICE in Minneapolis and that was on camera. So how about you stop generalizing for the entire population when clearly you have no idea what you are talking about? No, because its true. If governments in Europe pulled half the shit that Trumps WH is doing the nation would be paralyzed by protests and civil action.
Im not saying there are no protests. But in general Americans are incredibly passive in voicing and acting on their opposition to government misconduct.
(At least in recent decades, they used to be more active)
Ps.
What does the women ICE shot even have to do with this?
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On January 08 2026 08:32 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2026 07:44 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 07 2026 22:41 Gorsameth wrote:On January 07 2026 15:34 Vivax wrote:
By the looks of it, a lot of South American are going to have their leaders overthrown.
This isn‘t just Trump though. His advisors are relevant.
Not going to be a prolonged war like Vietnam either so the desired effect on the economy as a side motive remains questionable…
Is the US population so easily receptive to the warmongering propaganda ? More that the US population doesn't actually do anything if their government goes in a completely different direction. Where other countries would see protests and disruption if their government decided to go to war for shits and giggles, the US just shrugs and goes about their business. Funny you should say that, because there's a news story today about a Teacher getting arrested in Minnesota after attending a protest about Venezuela, she was arrested on camera right after giving an interview with a reporter. Another woman was shot today by ICE in Minneapolis and that was on camera. So how about you stop generalizing for the entire population when clearly you have no idea what you are talking about? No, because its true. If governments in Europe pulled half the shit that Trumps WH is doing the nation would be paralyzed by protests and civil action. Im not saying there are no protests. But in general Americans are incredibly passive in voicing and acting on their opposition to government misconduct. (At least in recent decades, they used to be more active) Ps. What does the women ICE shot even have to do with this?
People cant afford to take days off work or they risk losing their job and healthcare.
Its easier to protest when you have a safety net OR you have nothing. When you are caught in the middle its a little more difficult.
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On January 08 2026 08:32 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2026 07:44 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 07 2026 22:41 Gorsameth wrote:On January 07 2026 15:34 Vivax wrote:
By the looks of it, a lot of South American are going to have their leaders overthrown.
This isn‘t just Trump though. His advisors are relevant.
Not going to be a prolonged war like Vietnam either so the desired effect on the economy as a side motive remains questionable…
Is the US population so easily receptive to the warmongering propaganda ? More that the US population doesn't actually do anything if their government goes in a completely different direction. Where other countries would see protests and disruption if their government decided to go to war for shits and giggles, the US just shrugs and goes about their business. Funny you should say that, because there's a news story today about a Teacher getting arrested in Minnesota after attending a protest about Venezuela, she was arrested on camera right after giving an interview with a reporter. Another woman was shot today by ICE in Minneapolis and that was on camera. So how about you stop generalizing for the entire population when clearly you have no idea what you are talking about? No, because its true. If governments in Europe pulled half the shit that Trumps WH is doing the nation would be paralyzed by protests and civil action. Im not saying there are no protests. But in general Americans are incredibly passive in voicing and acting on their opposition to government misconduct. (At least in recent decades, they used to be more active) Ps. What does the women ICE shot even have to do with this?
She was shot after people started blocking ICE vehicles in protest to their raids.
We protest, the cops shoot us. Happens every time major protests happen in this country. How many people have died protesting for their rights in your country lately?
Dont mock our commitment when you dont even remotely understand what is required.
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On January 08 2026 05:03 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2026 04:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On January 08 2026 04:14 Jankisa wrote:
Oh come on GH, literally no one here said that people should not protest, except maybe you having issues with the no Kings protests, a little introspection and less persecution complex goes a long way.
I also find it very unlikely that anything will come from this, Americans have been completely desensitized to police and gun violence and the person was driving a car, which has been an excuse for police to count it as deadly weapon so they can execute people for a very long time, I wish it wasn't, but that's how it is.
(One of) my issue(s) with the No Kings protests (and those aligned with them) is that they aren't disruptive and had no intention, so they are effectively a massive waste of people's time and energy. Distinct from the actions happening in Minnesota, which we're watching unfold now. We (like collectively as a species) need you to be wrong about (at least a significant number of) Americans, but I certainly take your point. Hard to watch the video and conclude shooting her was reasonable though imo. To that point, Frey is on the left side of the party but far from it's fringe, and this is a reasonably strong statement in reaction. I can only hope that there are actions to come with it. In no way, shape or form did I imply that the shooting was reasonable, in any country in the West outside of US the murderer ICE Agent would be arrested by his colleagues immediately, in the US, there are plenty of precedents which will allow right wingers to pretend that he was "fearing for his life" and there are plenty of Republican judges and jury members who will acquit him. The Mayor can say that, and I can bet you that the response will be national guard presence to "protect the ICE agents" and this will be turned into the new news cycle that will last for days, as soon as the temperature goes down a bit the orange piece of shit will tweet or give an interview calling the deceased names, along with the mayor and anyone else protesting, any minute now oBlade will come in with his interpretation of the videos and Introvert will explain to us that this is what happens when people interfere with federal officers protecting the sovereignty of the USA from the Somali immigrant mafia.
Well of course fascists are going to side with fascism, they aren't who we should be discussing doing the right thing. I'm talking about the Democrats/their supporters that invariably call for calm and "peaceful" non-disruptive protests (if any at all) to ostensibly prevent Democrats from losing the midterms/Trump from cracking down harder.
While there's certainly some overlap, one thing I'm hoping people recognize, are some of the differences between the anti-ICE organizing work and the No Kings style of organizing work.
What most people here want instead, is for posters like oBlade and Intro to show up and do that so you all can point and laugh at how stupid they are, even though you all know that's their schtick.
On September 18 2025 23:44 Jankisa wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I know of no celebrities who celebrated this.
Unfortunately the right has established that anything other then absolute praising of the deceased is celebrating. I'm sure that despite all of my posts in this thread saying that CK did not deserve to die and that I don't condone political violence at all would take my posts pointing out fucked up shit he was saying as celebrating his death.
That, to me, is their magic touch, the special ingredient of fascism, they, with the help of the media who either doesn't know how to deal with it or are complicit are able to shape the narrative, they keep flinging shit at the wall until some of it sticks and from then on it's just the established narrative.
It happened with Russiagate, it happened with the Muller report interpretation, it happened with January 6th and the fucking documents and the tax investigation, all of it became "lawfare" and you can see our resident fascist boot lickers bring it up with absolute belief that they have the facts.
The worse cancellations during the hay day of "Cancel culture" were things like Democrats canceling Al Franken, but the right will still insist that random twitter accounts digging up shit from peoples past and getting them fired = "the left".
I can guarantee you that despite this whole shitstorm of them getting people fired, VP calling for people to report on others and get them fired, POTUS getting a late night host fired they will still pretend they are the cancel culture victims.
Because they don't care. Que the Satre quote.
+ Show Spoiler +Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
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On January 08 2026 09:12 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2026 08:32 Gorsameth wrote:On January 08 2026 07:44 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 07 2026 22:41 Gorsameth wrote:On January 07 2026 15:34 Vivax wrote:
By the looks of it, a lot of South American are going to have their leaders overthrown.
This isn‘t just Trump though. His advisors are relevant.
Not going to be a prolonged war like Vietnam either so the desired effect on the economy as a side motive remains questionable…
Is the US population so easily receptive to the warmongering propaganda ? More that the US population doesn't actually do anything if their government goes in a completely different direction. Where other countries would see protests and disruption if their government decided to go to war for shits and giggles, the US just shrugs and goes about their business. Funny you should say that, because there's a news story today about a Teacher getting arrested in Minnesota after attending a protest about Venezuela, she was arrested on camera right after giving an interview with a reporter. Another woman was shot today by ICE in Minneapolis and that was on camera. So how about you stop generalizing for the entire population when clearly you have no idea what you are talking about? No, because its true. If governments in Europe pulled half the shit that Trumps WH is doing the nation would be paralyzed by protests and civil action. Im not saying there are no protests. But in general Americans are incredibly passive in voicing and acting on their opposition to government misconduct. (At least in recent decades, they used to be more active) Ps. What does the women ICE shot even have to do with this? She was shot after people started blocking ICE vehicles in protest to their raids. We protest, the cops shoot us. Happens every time major protests happen in this country. How many people have died protesting for their rights in your country lately? Dont mock our commitment when you dont even remotely understand what is required.
They weren't blocking vehicles even. The lady had stopped to allow the ICE vehicles to go around them. The feds told her to move on and get out of the vehicle, before one grabbed onto her car door. The murderer walked in front of the vehicle as they approched before getting out of the way as he drew his gun before fireing point blank into the woman through the door window.
We can't even observe what ICE does without risking our lives.
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On January 08 2026 09:08 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2026 08:32 Gorsameth wrote:On January 08 2026 07:44 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 07 2026 22:41 Gorsameth wrote:On January 07 2026 15:34 Vivax wrote:
By the looks of it, a lot of South American are going to have their leaders overthrown.
This isn‘t just Trump though. His advisors are relevant.
Not going to be a prolonged war like Vietnam either so the desired effect on the economy as a side motive remains questionable…
Is the US population so easily receptive to the warmongering propaganda ? More that the US population doesn't actually do anything if their government goes in a completely different direction. Where other countries would see protests and disruption if their government decided to go to war for shits and giggles, the US just shrugs and goes about their business. Funny you should say that, because there's a news story today about a Teacher getting arrested in Minnesota after attending a protest about Venezuela, she was arrested on camera right after giving an interview with a reporter. Another woman was shot today by ICE in Minneapolis and that was on camera. So how about you stop generalizing for the entire population when clearly you have no idea what you are talking about? No, because its true. If governments in Europe pulled half the shit that Trumps WH is doing the nation would be paralyzed by protests and civil action. Im not saying there are no protests. But in general Americans are incredibly passive in voicing and acting on their opposition to government misconduct. (At least in recent decades, they used to be more active) Ps. What does the women ICE shot even have to do with this? People cant afford to take days off work or they risk losing their job and healthcare. Its easier to protest when you have a safety net OR you have nothing. When you are caught in the middle its a little more difficult.
I've been to plenty of protests and I've never heard of anyone taking days off work for it, people just go after work and on normal days off.
Beyond protests, I'm baffled how the guy doing Nazi salutes and calling empathy the cancer of civilization and raiding the government with a team of dweebs recruited specifically for being racist online, has scores of progressive engineers and devs queueing up to work for his companies. Fuck's sake, have some self-respect.
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On January 08 2026 09:24 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2026 05:03 Jankisa wrote:On January 08 2026 04:24 GreenHorizons wrote:On January 08 2026 04:14 Jankisa wrote:
Oh come on GH, literally no one here said that people should not protest, except maybe you having issues with the no Kings protests, a little introspection and less persecution complex goes a long way.
I also find it very unlikely that anything will come from this, Americans have been completely desensitized to police and gun violence and the person was driving a car, which has been an excuse for police to count it as deadly weapon so they can execute people for a very long time, I wish it wasn't, but that's how it is.
(One of) my issue(s) with the No Kings protests (and those aligned with them) is that they aren't disruptive and had no intention, so they are effectively a massive waste of people's time and energy. Distinct from the actions happening in Minnesota, which we're watching unfold now. We (like collectively as a species) need you to be wrong about (at least a significant number of) Americans, but I certainly take your point. Hard to watch the video and conclude shooting her was reasonable though imo. To that point, Frey is on the left side of the party but far from it's fringe, and this is a reasonably strong statement in reaction. https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/2008972576211783792I can only hope that there are actions to come with it. In no way, shape or form did I imply that the shooting was reasonable, in any country in the West outside of US the murderer ICE Agent would be arrested by his colleagues immediately, in the US, there are plenty of precedents which will allow right wingers to pretend that he was "fearing for his life" and there are plenty of Republican judges and jury members who will acquit him. The Mayor can say that, and I can bet you that the response will be national guard presence to "protect the ICE agents" and this will be turned into the new news cycle that will last for days, as soon as the temperature goes down a bit the orange piece of shit will tweet or give an interview calling the deceased names, along with the mayor and anyone else protesting, any minute now oBlade will come in with his interpretation of the videos and Introvert will explain to us that this is what happens when people interfere with federal officers protecting the sovereignty of the USA from the Somali immigrant mafia. Well of course fascists are going to side with fascism, they aren't who we should be discussing doing the right thing. I'm talking about the Democrats/their supporters that invariably call for calm and "peaceful" non-disruptive protests (if any at all) to ostensibly prevent Democrats from losing the midterms/Trump from cracking down harder. While there's certainly some overlap, one thing I'm hoping people recognize, are some of the differences between the anti-ICE organizing work and the No Kings style of organizing work. What most people here want instead, is for posters like oBlade and Intro to show up and do that so you all can point and laugh at how stupid they are, even though you all know that's their schtick. Show nested quote +On September 18 2025 23:44 Jankisa wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I know of no celebrities who celebrated this.
Unfortunately the right has established that anything other then absolute praising of the deceased is celebrating. I'm sure that despite all of my posts in this thread saying that CK did not deserve to die and that I don't condone political violence at all would take my posts pointing out fucked up shit he was saying as celebrating his death.
That, to me, is their magic touch, the special ingredient of fascism, they, with the help of the media who either doesn't know how to deal with it or are complicit are able to shape the narrative, they keep flinging shit at the wall until some of it sticks and from then on it's just the established narrative.
It happened with Russiagate, it happened with the Muller report interpretation, it happened with January 6th and the fucking documents and the tax investigation, all of it became "lawfare" and you can see our resident fascist boot lickers bring it up with absolute belief that they have the facts.
The worse cancellations during the hay day of "Cancel culture" were things like Democrats canceling Al Franken, but the right will still insist that random twitter accounts digging up shit from peoples past and getting them fired = "the left".
I can guarantee you that despite this whole shitstorm of them getting people fired, VP calling for people to report on others and get them fired, POTUS getting a late night host fired they will still pretend they are the cancel culture victims.
Because they don't care. Que the Satre quote. + Show Spoiler +Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
Intro does not have a schtick. You have a schtick.
And quite frankly the reason people here confuse you for a MAGA is because you basically are one, the only difference is your They/Them is "capitalists" and theirs is immigrants.
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On January 07 2026 22:49 Jankisa wrote:
If you guys think that this would be unpopular, go read oBlade and Introverts posts about Trump sending troops to LA.
Yes, please read my wonderful posts where I clearly explain why I don't condition my support for the use of troops to defend the US government against people attacking it based on which century it is.
On January 07 2026 22:49 Jankisa wrote:
If, however, the US army crosses the border and tries to pull Venezuela shit in Mexico, and Mexico starts shooting back, a lot of consequences could be felt by Trump's base, including people coming home in body bags and Mexican partizans crossing in to US and doing asymmetrical warfare, at that point I could see a general strike organized demanding a stop to the warmongering and removal of people like Hegseth and Miller.
There is no reason to "pull Venezuela shit" in Mexico because as of yet Sheinbaum is not indicted in a criminal act or conspiracy. There is no evidence, apart from the unavoidable being president of a country where drug cartels control entire states and that had 37 politicians assassinated during the year she ran, that she personally is a criminal to be brought to justice, or that removing her would stop deliberate acts by Mexico to harm the US and aid its enemies (would have to start with defining what those acts are if they exist).
The goal in Mexico would be dismantlingobliterating cartels, with or without the help or the uncorrupted elements of the Mexican government and military.
You're saying partisans would enter the US after war broke out? Because I don't see how partisans would slip through when the DoD has operational control of the border now. Unless the potential, would-be partisans are already in the US? If they're here already that's a different story. How many people living in the US do you estimate (as a European) would take up arms against the US in the event the US engaged in military action in Mexico? For the record.
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On January 08 2026 12:46 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2026 22:49 Jankisa wrote:
If you guys think that this would be unpopular, go read oBlade and Introverts posts about Trump sending troops to LA. Yes, please read my wonderful posts where I clearly explain why I don't condition my support for the use of troops to defend the US government against people attacking it based on which century it is. Show nested quote +On January 07 2026 22:49 Jankisa wrote:
If, however, the US army crosses the border and tries to pull Venezuela shit in Mexico, and Mexico starts shooting back, a lot of consequences could be felt by Trump's base, including people coming home in body bags and Mexican partizans crossing in to US and doing asymmetrical warfare, at that point I could see a general strike organized demanding a stop to the warmongering and removal of people like Hegseth and Miller. There is no reason to "pull Venezuela shit" in Mexico because as of yet Sheinbaum is not indicted in a criminal act or conspiracy. There is no evidence, apart from the unavoidable being president of a country where drug cartels control entire states and that had 37 politicians assassinated during the year she ran, that she personally is a criminal to be brought to justice, or that removing her would stop deliberate acts by Mexico to harm the US and aid its enemies (would have to start with defining what those acts are if they exist). The goal in Mexico would be dismantlingobliterating cartels, with or without the help or the uncorrupted elements of the Mexican government and military. You're saying partisans would enter the US after war broke out? Because I don't see how partisans would slip through when the DoD has operational control of the border now. Unless the potential, would-be partisans are already in the US? If they're here already that's a different story. How many people living in the US do you estimate (as a European) would take up arms against the US in the event the US engaged in military action in Mexico? For the record.
How ironic that 2 posts after people explain how fascists require an enemy to fight, you're here justifying how Mexico could be that enemy and you'd totally be on board. I bet you could do the same exercise for Canada too if the orange Fuhrer asked you to!
For the record, I'll bet it's more than 0. There's a few million Mexican immigrants living in the US. I'll take a ban bet that at least enough of them are upset about their birth country being invaded by their adopted home, that some organised violence happens by Mexicans with a green card to American state actors.
You also have an unfounded and inordinate respect for the DoD. The Mexican border is about triple the length of the former cold war border between East and West Germany, and the Soviets were also really adamant about not letting people cross. Enough crossed anyway. The DMZ in Korea is only 250 km long. You'd think it should be easy to stop people crossing from north to south. People cross. Meanwhile Mexicans have a lot more experience with crossing the border than the DoD has with protecting it. I'd take a ban bet on Mexicans being able to infiltrate the US as well. Of course, there's probably no need for that. I still have a smidgeon of faith in the US population and that they will rise up in mass disobedience if the US tries to start a war on Mexico. But that faith is rapidly eroding.
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I gave up on engaging and responding to certain things gh says its pointless.
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On January 08 2026 16:56 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2026 12:46 oBlade wrote:On January 07 2026 22:49 Jankisa wrote:
If you guys think that this would be unpopular, go read oBlade and Introverts posts about Trump sending troops to LA. Yes, please read my wonderful posts where I clearly explain why I don't condition my support for the use of troops to defend the US government against people attacking it based on which century it is. On January 07 2026 22:49 Jankisa wrote:
If, however, the US army crosses the border and tries to pull Venezuela shit in Mexico, and Mexico starts shooting back, a lot of consequences could be felt by Trump's base, including people coming home in body bags and Mexican partizans crossing in to US and doing asymmetrical warfare, at that point I could see a general strike organized demanding a stop to the warmongering and removal of people like Hegseth and Miller. There is no reason to "pull Venezuela shit" in Mexico because as of yet Sheinbaum is not indicted in a criminal act or conspiracy. There is no evidence, apart from the unavoidable being president of a country where drug cartels control entire states and that had 37 politicians assassinated during the year she ran, that she personally is a criminal to be brought to justice, or that removing her would stop deliberate acts by Mexico to harm the US and aid its enemies (would have to start with defining what those acts are if they exist). The goal in Mexico would be dismantlingobliterating cartels, with or without the help or the uncorrupted elements of the Mexican government and military. You're saying partisans would enter the US after war broke out? Because I don't see how partisans would slip through when the DoD has operational control of the border now. Unless the potential, would-be partisans are already in the US? If they're here already that's a different story. How many people living in the US do you estimate (as a European) would take up arms against the US in the event the US engaged in military action in Mexico? For the record. How ironic that 2 posts after people explain how fascists require an enemy to fight, you're here justifying how Mexico could be that enemy and you'd totally be on board. I bet you could do the same exercise for Canada too if the orange Fuhrer asked you to!
Yeah about as clear as day I said cartels are the enemy. If you think Mexico is the cartels so I'm saying Mexico is the enemy, it's your own interpretation.
Fascism needs enemies, that's fine. That doesn't disprove the existence of actual enemies. Enemies also just exist. It's not like cartels would be wonderful friends to humanity if only fascism didn't exist.
Mexico has massive problems which is why I'm begged to look the other way when people treat the border like a revolving door because it's such a humanitarian thing to do. Canada does not have blow-uppable drug cartels that control regions of it.
On January 08 2026 16:56 Acrofales wrote:
For the record, I'll bet it's more than 0. There's a few million Mexican immigrants living in the US. I'll take a ban bet that at least enough of them are upset about their birth country being invaded by their adopted home, that some organised violence happens by Mexicans with a green card to American state actors.
That's pretty bad. Countries can't just let in people with no loyalty who would betray them. The risk is not worth it.
On January 08 2026 16:56 Acrofales wrote:
You also have an unfounded and inordinate respect for the DoD. The Mexican border is about triple the length of the former cold war border between East and West Germany, and the Soviets were also really adamant about not letting people cross. Enough crossed anyway. The DMZ in Korea is only 250 km long. You'd think it should be easy to stop people crossing from north to south. People cross. Meanwhile Mexicans have a lot more experience with crossing the border than the DoD has with protecting it. I'd take a ban bet on Mexicans being able to infiltrate the US as well. Of course, there's probably no need for that. I still have a smidgeon of faith in the US population and that they will rise up in mass disobedience if the US tries to start a war on Mexico. But that faith is rapidly eroding.
The few people who manage to directly cross the DMZ into Korea are immediately spotted and taken into custody.
North Korean soldiers serve terms of 10 to 13 years. South Korean soldiers serve not even 2 years anymore. Nevertheless, North Korea is not going to win a hypothetical war on the experience and expertise of its reserves of starving partisans whose only expertise is in petty stealing because it's so necessary to become a thief just to survive.
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Oblade whats your take on the shooting in Minnesota by the ICE agent?
Or the Jan 6th website?
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On January 08 2026 18:37 pmh wrote:
I gave up on engaging and responding to certain things gh says its pointless.
I drop by once or twice a year, and I see some things never change
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The DMZ between SK and NK is one of the most mined and watched places on earth, it's also about 10 times shorter then the Mexico - US border, it also doesn't have a whole business revolving around getting people and drugs over it by extremely sophisticated criminals, thinking it's actually "secure" just shows how seeped in brain numbingly dumb propaganda you are.
I don't think Trump is going to go in to Mexico except sending a hellfire missile or two occasional when big scandals occur, so he can use it as a distraction, he doesn't have the balls, which is good.
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What are you talking about. Donald promised a wall in 2016 and Mexico even aid for it. So now the US has no illegal immigrants. It’s strange people still talk about it when the stable genius solved it. Just like he has removed the deficit and brought a shit ton of manufacturing to the US.
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United States43987 Posts
It was the entire national debt he said he would fix, not just the deficit. He also fixed the balance of trade by not mailing the check to China.
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On January 09 2026 00:17 KwarK wrote:
It was the entire national debt he said he would fix, not just the deficit. He also fixed the balance of trade by not mailing the check to China.
It is kind of amazing how literally no one in the USA has any problems anymore.
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oh he built a wall alright. in the heads of people to keep supremacy of his hare brained ideas - MTG? Romney? you don't love dear leader and his best people doing the best concepts of a plan to everyone's delight?... too bad. he's gonna sic his terminally online and very stable "stand by and stand back" militias to your turf and make you regret every setting a foot into politics.
to keep it that way his friends are in the process/already bought major channels and senders of information... and make you lose your head following an infinite loop of insanity at the tip and swipe of your finger.
and that's the neat part, Trump as POTUS - up to this point - did not even use the incredible toys a gargantuan military/security apparatus budget and capabilities afford him.
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On January 09 2026 00:26 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2026 00:17 KwarK wrote:
It was the entire national debt he said he would fix, not just the deficit. He also fixed the balance of trade by not mailing the check to China. It is kind of amazing how literally no one in the USA has any problems anymore.
Eliminated government inefficiency, stopped the war on Ukraine in a week, released the Epstein files on day one, locked up crooked Hilary. The list of his accomplishments and following through on his promises are endless. It is why the rest of the world trusts the US more than ever before and shows him so much respect. Hell late night shows can't even find anything to make fun of him for.
It is no wonder that his supporters stay so true when he just keeps delivering wins for them, at his own personal expense.
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