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On July 08 2026 05:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: It looks like we're back to trying to steal Greenland, this time threatening to not help allies militarily. (In the past, Trump has also threatened to take Greenland by military force, as well as threatened to impose additional tariffs on our allies.)
Trump reignites call for US to control Greenland at NATO summit
President Donald Trump reignited his call for the United States to control Greenland, threatening to remove American soldiers from European nations over the issue, as the 2026 NATO summit got underway in Ankara on July 7. ... Referring to Greenland, Trump added: "That should be controlled by the United States, not by Denmark."
Trump took NATO to the brink of disaster in January before he eventually ruled out military action to acquire Greenland and pulled back threats to impose tariffs on European allies. Tensions deescalated after Trump announced the "framework of a future deal" with NATO, Denmark and the Arctic region on security matters.
Trump's Greenland talks died down over the following months, yet Trump introduced a new threat at the NATO summit in Turkey: removing U.S. soldiers from Europe over the continent's opposition. "With all the money we spend to help them with Russia ‒ and we don't have to spend any money ‒ we could remove all of our soldiers out of Europe, because, as you probably noticed, Europe's a very different place than it was 20 years ago, a lot different, much different. ...
The United States has about 68,000 active-duty military personnel stationed in European countries. In May, the Trump administration announced the withdrawal of 5,000 US. troops from Germany in an apparent response to Chancellor Friedrich Merz's criticism of the U.S. war in Iran.
"It is a well-known position of the United States that it wants to own and take over Greenland. I hope that it is equally well-known everywhere that this is not going to happen," Frederiksen said, adding that Denmark has no plans to discuss Arctic or Greenland issues in Ankara. Greenland's government has also repeatedly said the territory is not for sale. Múte Egede, Greenland's foreign minister, in a statement said Greenland's future should be decided by its people. "That's how it has always been. And that's how it always will be," he said.
Just one week without stupid bullshit is apparently too much to ask. Your fucking manbaby just can't handle not being the center of attention for even three seconds.
If that guy didn't control the worlds biggest military and has proven to make incredibly stupid and idiotic calls that hurt everyone, we could just mute him. But sadly we can't.
US, get your shit together. I am so fucking tired of it.
The real question is in 3 years will the US end the insanity and make some significant rule changes and safe guards to make sure something like this and someone like this can never rule again or continue down this path to self destruction.
Because he is not going to get smarter or less corrupt and the people he has put in place are not going to suddenly grow a spine (though some will claim to have when he dies or his term ends).
We will mostly know in November. If republicans don't get completely crushed at the midterms, the US will continue on this downward path. If they get obliterated, there is still a chance for the US to recover.
What would you consider "completely crushed"/"obliterated"?
I don't know in detail, because US elections are weird.
But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
A bit of a cop out answer to be sure. But i think "If there is any question if they got crushed, then it probably wasn't enough" is roughly where i'd go here.
Ideally with a shift in legislative power big enough to really harmstring Trumps insanity and maybe even allow for some pushback and movement towards sanity even with an insane president. Maybe supermajorities for the democrats, but i don't know if that is even possible.
Not the most likely scenario, but the only one i still see.
Fair enough. I'm curious if anyone can put their finger on approximately what that is? It has to at least be winning both chambers right? It would have to be one hell of a blowout in the House to make up for not getting the Senate? Governors too would help, but I don't know it moves the needle much on its own?
On July 08 2026 02:53 Jankisa wrote: It's mind boggling to me that people can smugly advocate for individuals having more money and power then whole nations of tens of millions while 5 million children die from consequences of poverty every year and still sleep at night.
I almost wrote "and feel good about themselves" but the individuals posting this shit here are clearly miserable so that definitely wouldn't work.
Not your money, not yours to control or rule how to spend. Should they also stay up because how much job/wealth they have generated then? I find it annoyingly stupid how we keep looking at their wealth like it's some sort of public asset to be spent. And I find it even more absurd how these discussions are filled with financial illiterate.
Elon has almost all his net worth tied up in the stocks, and someone think he really does have $1 trillion in the bank waiting to be spend.
Surely anyone would see that his companies have generated significant number of jobs, technological breakthrough, capabilities for the US, and stock market wealth. He doesn't control the stock market; he has influence on it just like any other CEOs. He is rich because people vote for it with money, buying/paying for his product/service and stock value reflect it accordingly.
That's why the US has its success stories, a place to create opportunities.
The us is striking Iran again over “terrorist strikes”, I don’t doubt Iran did something. What I’m interested in, is how many trades did Trump make before he announced the strikes. And why anyone thinks this is going to work or is a good idea.
As rough as it is, the US either needed to not start start this and hope the economic crunch would eventually end the regime, or go all the way. Not like this is some sort of brilliant analysis, just the reasons why all the adults before didn’t do the Trump no strategy bombing.
On July 08 2026 02:53 Jankisa wrote: It's mind boggling to me that people can smugly advocate for individuals having more money and power then whole nations of tens of millions while 5 million children die from consequences of poverty every year and still sleep at night.
I almost wrote "and feel good about themselves" but the individuals posting this shit here are clearly miserable so that definitely wouldn't work.
Not your money, not yours to control or rule how to spend. Should they also stay up because how much job/wealth they have generated then? I find it annoyingly stupid how we keep looking at their wealth like it's some sort of public asset to be spent. And I find it even more absurd how these discussions are filled with financial illiterate.
Elon has almost all his net worth tied up in the stocks, and someone think he really does have $1 trillion in the bank waiting to be spend.
Surely anyone would see that his companies have generated significant number of jobs, technological breakthrough, capabilities for the US, and stock market wealth. He doesn't control the stock market; he has influence on it just like any other CEOs. He is rich because people vote for it with money, buying/paying for his product/service and stock value reflect it accordingly.
That's why the US has its success stories, a place to create opportunities.
I doubt anyone in this thread actually thinks Elon Musk has a trillion dollars in liquidity to hand.
You’re free to gargle his balls, I’m free to think he’s a cunt. That’s America baby!
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
On July 08 2026 02:53 Jankisa wrote: It's mind boggling to me that people can smugly advocate for individuals having more money and power then whole nations of tens of millions while 5 million children die from consequences of poverty every year and still sleep at night.
I almost wrote "and feel good about themselves" but the individuals posting this shit here are clearly miserable so that definitely wouldn't work.
Not your money, not yours to control or rule how to spend. Should they also stay up because how much job/wealth they have generated then? I find it annoyingly stupid how we keep looking at their wealth like it's some sort of public asset to be spent.
Because it is. No billionaire has ever created their wealth ex nihilo. Labor creates wealth and the wealthy take the lion's share because they had preexisting capital to invest.
The people who actually create things that advance society, like Albert Einstein, are frequently socialists.
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
I did say softcore porn. Hardcore porn would be saying you think Donald Trump should be assassinated prior to leaving office.
Actually, transitioning from a video game to a Hollywood drama about the perfect election victory has a narrative rhyme that I missed the first time around.
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
I did say softcore porn. Hardcore porn would be saying you think Donald Trump should be assassinated prior to leaving office.
Actually, transitioning from a video game to a Hollywood drama about the perfect election victory has a narrative rhyme that I missed the first time around.
GH is doing what you said, he’s setting up to quote the posts of Sim and Jan, and claim they need to join his revolution or something. The rest of us are just mixing hope and despair.
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
I did say softcore porn. Hardcore porn would be saying you think Donald Trump should be assassinated prior to leaving office.
Actually, transitioning from a video game to a Hollywood drama about the perfect election victory has a narrative rhyme that I missed the first time around.
Nonetheless I’m pretty sure Billyboy nor Simberto expressed no such assassination sentiment, so it feels odd to me to throw it out in a direct reply to them.
I’ve no such compunctions and I’ll admit to that, the sooner the cunt is out of office the better. Given there are seemingly no limits to what his own party will tolerate, and he’s clearly not going to face censure for his many crimes, death is quite the equaliser, something no person can escape.
Would prefer natural causes or a hilarious accident than assassination, which I don’t support.
On July 08 2026 08:42 Jankisa wrote: 20 + majority in house and 5 + in senate, considering all the efforts from Republicans and bad Senate map, that would be a meaningful defeat.
Anything bigger then that seems like a fantasy, and even that is crazy optimistic.
+5 seat majority or a majority from winning 5 seats?
If you mean a 5 seat majority I'd have a hard time arguing with that. I don't know that's even in the realm of fantasy myself (haven't checked the races/math that close myself).
This debate in Michigan seems pretty important. Haven't had a chance to watch it yet, but I'm curious about Dem voters/supporters take on it (Debate intro starts about 30 minutes in).
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
I did say softcore porn. Hardcore porn would be saying you think Donald Trump should be assassinated prior to leaving office.
Actually, transitioning from a video game to a Hollywood drama about the perfect election victory has a narrative rhyme that I missed the first time around.
GH is doing what you said, he’s setting up to quote the posts of Sim and Jan, and claim they need to join his revolution or something. The rest of us are just mixing hope and despair.
Small election wins in subsequent elections are the kind of progress we need and can use, and big wins are possible if Iran keeps going the way its going and the tariffs keep killing the economy. I think the morose attitude on what a small win will say about America is puerile.
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
I did say softcore porn. Hardcore porn would be saying you think Donald Trump should be assassinated prior to leaving office.
Actually, transitioning from a video game to a Hollywood drama about the perfect election victory has a narrative rhyme that I missed the first time around.
Nonetheless I’m pretty sure Billyboy nor Simberto expressed no such assassination sentiment, so it feels odd to me to throw it out in a direct reply to them.
I’ve no such compunctions and I’ll admit to that, the sooner the cunt is out of office the better. Given there are seemingly no limits to what his own party will tolerate, and he’s clearly not going to face censure for his many crimes, death is quite the equaliser, something no person can escape.
Would prefer natural causes or a hilarious accident than assassination, which I don’t support.
The softcore assassination porn was more directed at you and simberto ("A much better scenario than assassination in minecraft" as an evaluation of degree). To Billy, it appears that his problem with assassination is martyrdom, not assassination.
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
I did say softcore porn. Hardcore porn would be saying you think Donald Trump should be assassinated prior to leaving office.
Actually, transitioning from a video game to a Hollywood drama about the perfect election victory has a narrative rhyme that I missed the first time around.
GH is doing what you said, he’s setting up to quote the posts of Sim and Jan, and claim they need to join his revolution or something. The rest of us are just mixing hope and despair.
Small election wins in subsequent elections are the kind of progress we need and can use, and big wins are possible if Iran keeps going the way its going and the tariffs keep killing the economy. I think the morose attitude on what a small win will say about America is puerile.
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
I did say softcore porn. Hardcore porn would be saying you think Donald Trump should be assassinated prior to leaving office.
Actually, transitioning from a video game to a Hollywood drama about the perfect election victory has a narrative rhyme that I missed the first time around.
Nonetheless I’m pretty sure Billyboy nor Simberto expressed no such assassination sentiment, so it feels odd to me to throw it out in a direct reply to them.
I’ve no such compunctions and I’ll admit to that, the sooner the cunt is out of office the better. Given there are seemingly no limits to what his own party will tolerate, and he’s clearly not going to face censure for his many crimes, death is quite the equaliser, something no person can escape.
Would prefer natural causes or a hilarious accident than assassination, which I don’t support.
The softcore assassination porn was more directed at you and simberto ("A much better scenario than assassination in minecraft" as an evaluation of degree). To Billy, it appears that his problem with assassination is martyrdom, not assassination.
You’re digging for a fight with dumbass strawmen. Funny how you flip flop depending on the day.
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
I did say softcore porn. Hardcore porn would be saying you think Donald Trump should be assassinated prior to leaving office.
Actually, transitioning from a video game to a Hollywood drama about the perfect election victory has a narrative rhyme that I missed the first time around.
GH is doing what you said, he’s setting up to quote the posts of Sim and Jan, and claim they need to join his revolution or something. The rest of us are just mixing hope and despair.
Small election wins in subsequent elections are the kind of progress we need and can use, and big wins are possible if Iran keeps going the way its going and the tariffs keep killing the economy. I think the morose attitude on what a small win will say about America is puerile.
On July 08 2026 09:50 WombaT wrote:
On July 08 2026 09:37 dyhb wrote:
On July 08 2026 09:27 Billyboy wrote:
On July 08 2026 09:15 dyhb wrote:
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
I did say softcore porn. Hardcore porn would be saying you think Donald Trump should be assassinated prior to leaving office.
Actually, transitioning from a video game to a Hollywood drama about the perfect election victory has a narrative rhyme that I missed the first time around.
Nonetheless I’m pretty sure Billyboy nor Simberto expressed no such assassination sentiment, so it feels odd to me to throw it out in a direct reply to them.
I’ve no such compunctions and I’ll admit to that, the sooner the cunt is out of office the better. Given there are seemingly no limits to what his own party will tolerate, and he’s clearly not going to face censure for his many crimes, death is quite the equaliser, something no person can escape.
Would prefer natural causes or a hilarious accident than assassination, which I don’t support.
The softcore assassination porn was more directed at you and simberto ("A much better scenario than assassination in minecraft" as an evaluation of degree). To Billy, it appears that his problem with assassination is martyrdom, not assassination.
You’re digging for a fight with dumbass strawmen. Funny how you flip flop depending on the day.
I'm always open to reevaluating my opinion on the meaning and drawable conclusions from other people's posts. Not that killing Trump in a video game or plain despondency has a lot of misinterpretation available, but it's possible.
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
I did say softcore porn. Hardcore porn would be saying you think Donald Trump should be assassinated prior to leaving office.
Actually, transitioning from a video game to a Hollywood drama about the perfect election victory has a narrative rhyme that I missed the first time around.
GH is doing what you said, he’s setting up to quote the posts of Sim and Jan, and claim they need to join his revolution or something. The rest of us are just mixing hope and despair.
Small election wins in subsequent elections are the kind of progress we need and can use, and big wins are possible if Iran keeps going the way its going and the tariffs keep killing the economy. I think the morose attitude on what a small win will say about America is puerile.
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
I did say softcore porn. Hardcore porn would be saying you think Donald Trump should be assassinated prior to leaving office.
Actually, transitioning from a video game to a Hollywood drama about the perfect election victory has a narrative rhyme that I missed the first time around.
Nonetheless I’m pretty sure Billyboy nor Simberto expressed no such assassination sentiment, so it feels odd to me to throw it out in a direct reply to them.
I’ve no such compunctions and I’ll admit to that, the sooner the cunt is out of office the better. Given there are seemingly no limits to what his own party will tolerate, and he’s clearly not going to face censure for his many crimes, death is quite the equaliser, something no person can escape.
Would prefer natural causes or a hilarious accident than assassination, which I don’t support.
The softcore assassination porn was more directed at you and simberto ("A much better scenario than assassination in minecraft" as an evaluation of degree). To Billy, it appears that his problem with assassination is martyrdom, not assassination.
I wholly reject that, I’m in the hardcore assassination porn camp, give me some credit.
I don’t think that’s accurate based on Billy’s general posting and what I’ve gleamed from his musing in general. He’s free to speak for himself of course, but contextually I took him to mean ‘assassination is bad, and there may be a martyr effect’, not ‘assassination is bad because there’s a martyr effect’.
And to follow your earlier billionaire logic, not sure why it’s bad really. I think the death of a person would be of a benefit for wider society, what’s the problem? If you support any domestic policy or foreign intervention that so much as kills 2 people well, you’re twice as bad as me right off the block.
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
I did say softcore porn. Hardcore porn would be saying you think Donald Trump should be assassinated prior to leaving office.
Actually, transitioning from a video game to a Hollywood drama about the perfect election victory has a narrative rhyme that I missed the first time around.
GH is doing what you said, he’s setting up to quote the posts of Sim and Jan, and claim they need to join his revolution or something. The rest of us are just mixing hope and despair.
Small election wins in subsequent elections are the kind of progress we need and can use, and big wins are possible if Iran keeps going the way its going and the tariffs keep killing the economy. I think the morose attitude on what a small win will say about America is puerile.
On July 08 2026 09:50 WombaT wrote:
On July 08 2026 09:37 dyhb wrote:
On July 08 2026 09:27 Billyboy wrote:
On July 08 2026 09:15 dyhb wrote:
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
I did say softcore porn. Hardcore porn would be saying you think Donald Trump should be assassinated prior to leaving office.
Actually, transitioning from a video game to a Hollywood drama about the perfect election victory has a narrative rhyme that I missed the first time around.
Nonetheless I’m pretty sure Billyboy nor Simberto expressed no such assassination sentiment, so it feels odd to me to throw it out in a direct reply to them.
I’ve no such compunctions and I’ll admit to that, the sooner the cunt is out of office the better. Given there are seemingly no limits to what his own party will tolerate, and he’s clearly not going to face censure for his many crimes, death is quite the equaliser, something no person can escape.
Would prefer natural causes or a hilarious accident than assassination, which I don’t support.
The softcore assassination porn was more directed at you and simberto ("A much better scenario than assassination in minecraft" as an evaluation of degree). To Billy, it appears that his problem with assassination is martyrdom, not assassination.
I wholly reject that, I’m in the hardcore assassination porn camp, give me some credit.
I don’t think that’s accurate based on Billy’s general posting and what I’ve gleamed from his musing in general. He’s free to speak for himself of course, but contextually I took him to mean ‘assassination is bad, and there may be a martyr effect’, not ‘assassination is bad because there’s a martyr effect’.
And to follow your earlier billionaire logic, not sure why it’s bad really. I think the death of a person would be of a benefit for wider society, what’s the problem? If you support any domestic policy or foreign intervention that so much as kills 2 people well, you’re twice as bad as me right off the block.
Because you're not the only one on the block with ideas on who in society we should kill in order to make society better off.
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
I did say softcore porn. Hardcore porn would be saying you think Donald Trump should be assassinated prior to leaving office.
Actually, transitioning from a video game to a Hollywood drama about the perfect election victory has a narrative rhyme that I missed the first time around.
GH is doing what you said, he’s setting up to quote the posts of Sim and Jan, and claim they need to join his revolution or something. The rest of us are just mixing hope and despair.
Small election wins in subsequent elections are the kind of progress we need and can use, and big wins are possible if Iran keeps going the way its going and the tariffs keep killing the economy. I think the morose attitude on what a small win will say about America is puerile.
On July 08 2026 09:50 WombaT wrote:
On July 08 2026 09:37 dyhb wrote:
On July 08 2026 09:27 Billyboy wrote:
On July 08 2026 09:15 dyhb wrote:
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
I did say softcore porn. Hardcore porn would be saying you think Donald Trump should be assassinated prior to leaving office.
Actually, transitioning from a video game to a Hollywood drama about the perfect election victory has a narrative rhyme that I missed the first time around.
Nonetheless I’m pretty sure Billyboy nor Simberto expressed no such assassination sentiment, so it feels odd to me to throw it out in a direct reply to them.
I’ve no such compunctions and I’ll admit to that, the sooner the cunt is out of office the better. Given there are seemingly no limits to what his own party will tolerate, and he’s clearly not going to face censure for his many crimes, death is quite the equaliser, something no person can escape.
Would prefer natural causes or a hilarious accident than assassination, which I don’t support.
The softcore assassination porn was more directed at you and simberto ("A much better scenario than assassination in minecraft" as an evaluation of degree). To Billy, it appears that his problem with assassination is martyrdom, not assassination.
I wholly reject that, I’m in the hardcore assassination porn camp, give me some credit.
I don’t think that’s accurate based on Billy’s general posting and what I’ve gleamed from his musing in general. He’s free to speak for himself of course, but contextually I took him to mean ‘assassination is bad, and there may be a martyr effect’, not ‘assassination is bad because there’s a martyr effect’.
And to follow your earlier billionaire logic, not sure why it’s bad really. I think the death of a person would be of a benefit for wider society, what’s the problem? If you support any domestic policy or foreign intervention that so much as kills 2 people well, you’re twice as bad as me right off the block.
Because you're not the only one on the block with ideas on who in society we should kill in order to make society better off.
Ideas in cheap. In terms of actual kills he’s substantially behind the likes of Trump and Stephen Miller on the scoreboard. So surely you can’t begrudge him a few at this point. Sure, ideally there is no political violence. But we don’t live in an ideal world.
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
I did say softcore porn. Hardcore porn would be saying you think Donald Trump should be assassinated prior to leaving office.
Actually, transitioning from a video game to a Hollywood drama about the perfect election victory has a narrative rhyme that I missed the first time around.
GH is doing what you said, he’s setting up to quote the posts of Sim and Jan, and claim they need to join his revolution or something. The rest of us are just mixing hope and despair.
Small election wins in subsequent elections are the kind of progress we need and can use, and big wins are possible if Iran keeps going the way its going and the tariffs keep killing the economy. I think the morose attitude on what a small win will say about America is puerile.
On July 08 2026 09:50 WombaT wrote:
On July 08 2026 09:37 dyhb wrote:
On July 08 2026 09:27 Billyboy wrote:
On July 08 2026 09:15 dyhb wrote:
On July 08 2026 06:48 Billyboy wrote: He needs to get obliterated at the polls (and not the way he uses the word) as Sim said.
On July 08 2026 07:35 Simberto wrote: But it would require losing the election so hard that it is very obvious and there really is no question that they got demolished. Not just a moderate loss, but a loss so massive that they cannot explain it away.
I swear that you all are trying to get pre-mad that an election win wasn't big enough to change everything, instantly, like in a Hollywood movie. The country will still be heavily divided, and that shit predates Trump and will continue after Trump. Accept a narrow victory and focus on stacking the gains 2026->2028. Softcore assassination porn and weird fantasying about avoiding Democracy when you don't like the results is not the way.
Your heart's in the right place, but your head is not.
Odd strawman from my post arguing against him dying in a video game.
I did say softcore porn. Hardcore porn would be saying you think Donald Trump should be assassinated prior to leaving office.
Actually, transitioning from a video game to a Hollywood drama about the perfect election victory has a narrative rhyme that I missed the first time around.
Nonetheless I’m pretty sure Billyboy nor Simberto expressed no such assassination sentiment, so it feels odd to me to throw it out in a direct reply to them.
I’ve no such compunctions and I’ll admit to that, the sooner the cunt is out of office the better. Given there are seemingly no limits to what his own party will tolerate, and he’s clearly not going to face censure for his many crimes, death is quite the equaliser, something no person can escape.
Would prefer natural causes or a hilarious accident than assassination, which I don’t support.
The softcore assassination porn was more directed at you and simberto ("A much better scenario than assassination in minecraft" as an evaluation of degree). To Billy, it appears that his problem with assassination is martyrdom, not assassination.
I wholly reject that, I’m in the hardcore assassination porn camp, give me some credit.
I don’t think that’s accurate based on Billy’s general posting and what I’ve gleamed from his musing in general. He’s free to speak for himself of course, but contextually I took him to mean ‘assassination is bad, and there may be a martyr effect’, not ‘assassination is bad because there’s a martyr effect’.
And to follow your earlier billionaire logic, not sure why it’s bad really. I think the death of a person would be of a benefit for wider society, what’s the problem? If you support any domestic policy or foreign intervention that so much as kills 2 people well, you’re twice as bad as me right off the block.
Because you're not the only one on the block with ideas on who in society we should kill in order to make society better off.
Ideas in cheap. In terms of actual kills he’s substantially behind the likes of Trump and Stephen Miller on the scoreboard. So surely you can’t begrudge him a few at this point. Sure, ideally there is no political violence. But we don’t live in an ideal world.
Pro-assassination, because we don't live in an ideal world? Pro-assassination because of what Trump and Stephen Miller have done? You can take and hold and express these views, but I don't want to get accused of making straw men twice tonight.
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