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On September 03 2026 07:59 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2026 06:59 Billyboy wrote:
Professor Trump explaining economics and world trade Donald Trump stated, "We don't need their product. So if we cut off trade with that country, we just made $40 billion. You do a few countries like that, and we become a big money machine".
This is the guy some of you voted to lead your economy and make deals with other nations. Yes that is a real quote and yes he is that dumb. This is completely consistent with everything he’s said in the past. People tried to explain what he really meant in 2016 when he described a balance of trade deficit with China as a payment the government was making to China and said his strategy would be to stop making the payment. But what he meant was exactly what he said. He thinks a balance of trade deficit is an expense that can be negotiated down or voided. It’s not even mercantilism, though that’s the economic trade theory that he most closely subscribes to. It’s like if mercantilism was explained by an idiot who had learned about it from another idiot’s description of a TikTok about it.
The people who have constantly played off his idiocy have no more excuses. I guess it’s hard to admit you are wrong but you would think people would buck up for something this important. But instead they handed the keys to the castle to a moron who’s only interest is himself, and the worst part of it all is he barely hid it.
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On September 03 2026 04:19 Jankisa wrote:USS Abraham Lincoln looking a bit rough after all that time on the sea: Good to see that the US military is not over-extended or running it's equipment into the ground.
Nimitz is being decommissioned
Eisenhower is in port at Norfolk, modernizations
Carl Vinson is being serviced in San Diego
Theodore Roosevelt is about to be deployed from San Diego
Lincoln is in Thailand, having issues.
Washington is steaming toward ME
Stennis currently in Norfolk and has its guts ripped out refueling its reactor
Truman is preparing for the same treatment
Raegan is in Washington state on maintenance
Bush is in Arabian Sea fighting people without wifi
Ford is in Norfolk after losing a battle with laundry.
For the first time from WW2 we have no carrier battle group in the pacific. The next carriers are most likely going to be delayed with the catapult bullshit. This is the endstate of incredible incompetence, we have roughly 2 and a half carriers in total, and if china were to invade taiwan we wouldn't be able to get there in time to do anything about it.
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Northern Ireland27332 Posts
On September 03 2026 02:14 LightSpectra wrote:
I see you've chosen the laughingstock route. Don't get mad when people refuse to engage with you when you consistently meltdown when pressed too closely 🤷
Quelle fucking surprise GH alienates another potential ally and doesn’t understand why
Who could have fucking thunk it?
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On September 03 2026 09:24 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2026 02:14 LightSpectra wrote:
I see you've chosen the laughingstock route. Don't get mad when people refuse to engage with you when you consistently meltdown when pressed too closely 🤷 Quelle fucking surprise GH alienates another potential ally and doesn’t understand why Who could have fucking thunk it?
Because his actual intentions are to make himself seem important not gain political allies or the bs revolution he knows nothing about. If it was not only would he act different, but protests and not supporting and using the king capitalists manipulation tool wouldn’t be too inconvenient for him.
He’s full of shit, it’s too bad some people believed him, but it’s not a bad thing to be trusting.
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On September 03 2026 03:03 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Also waiting for oblade to tell us in two months when this has escalated into a full blown crisis how this is super clever and how he didn’t in fact vote three times for a clueless and incompetent clown.
So by November 4th if for some reason the crisis you now sincerely predict doesn't materialize whatsoever, you'll be here to 1) say you were wrong, 2) say your idea was wrong, and 3) apologize and explain you will no longer mortgage random possible futures you've invented against the chance to say "durr oBlade" in the present in an insane obsessive way? Right? You won't have completely forgotten and moved on to new manufactured hysteria about totally different things, right?
If apologizing and not making up random nonsense is beneath you, I am also open to taking an even odds ban bet with you that you are completely talking out of your ass (that there's no such "full blown crisis" in 2 months) at any duration of your discretion.
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United States24328 Posts
On September 03 2026 09:24 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2026 02:14 LightSpectra wrote:
I see you've chosen the laughingstock route. Don't get mad when people refuse to engage with you when you consistently meltdown when pressed too closely 🤷 Quelle fucking surprise GH alienates another potential ally and doesn’t understand why Who could have fucking thunk it?
"Another potential ally" for what exactly?
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On September 03 2026 13:46 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2026 03:03 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Also waiting for oblade to tell us in two months when this has escalated into a full blown crisis how this is super clever and how he didn’t in fact vote three times for a clueless and incompetent clown. So by November 4th if for some reason the crisis you now sincerely predict doesn't materialize whatsoever, you'll be here to 1) say you were wrong, 2) say your idea was wrong, and 3) apologize and explain you will no longer mortgage random possible futures you've invented against the chance to say "durr oBlade" in the present in an insane obsessive way? Right? You won't have completely forgotten and moved on to new manufactured hysteria about totally different things, right? If apologizing and not making up random nonsense is beneath you, I am also open to taking an even odds ban bet with you that you are completely talking out of your ass (that there's no such "full blown crisis" in 2 months) at any duration of your discretion.
Oh, brother. Let me explain you. What we are commenting on is your general behaviour and the fact that Trump could defecate in the Oval Office in front of everyone, you would still justify it.
No one really cares what happens with the Falklands. Your orange moron does this kind of blunders every two hours, and most of them result in just a bit more credibility and soft power gone, on top of renewing the absolute contempt of the entire world feels for your country and people like you who put such a man in office.
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On September 03 2026 15:45 Biff The Understudy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2026 13:46 oBlade wrote:On September 03 2026 03:03 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Also waiting for oblade to tell us in two months when this has escalated into a full blown crisis how this is super clever and how he didn’t in fact vote three times for a clueless and incompetent clown. So by November 4th if for some reason the crisis you now sincerely predict doesn't materialize whatsoever, you'll be here to 1) say you were wrong, 2) say your idea was wrong, and 3) apologize and explain you will no longer mortgage random possible futures you've invented against the chance to say "durr oBlade" in the present in an insane obsessive way? Right? You won't have completely forgotten and moved on to new manufactured hysteria about totally different things, right? If apologizing and not making up random nonsense is beneath you, I am also open to taking an even odds ban bet with you that you are completely talking out of your ass (that there's no such "full blown crisis" in 2 months) at any duration of your discretion. Oh, brother. Let me explain you. What we are commenting on is your general behaviour and the fact that Trump could defecate in the Oval Office in front of everyone, you would still justify it. No one really cares what happens with the Falklands. Your orange moron does this kind of blunders every two hours, and most of them result in just a bit more credibility and soft power gone, on top of renewing the absolute contempt of the entire world feels for your country and people like you who put such a man in office.
There is no "we." I am talking to you.
You said there will be a full blown crisis in two months. I believe you're factually wrong, but that's fine, I couldn't care less. Then you out of nowhere randomly said not only that, but I will defend it when it happens (which it won't, and I won't, and it was delusional for you to post, just like thinking the president would shit in front of everyone). You like commenting on general behavior? Your general behavior is you know less about me than you do about politics, yet obsessively pontificate on both with the same undeserved confidence. Take the bet and put your money where your mouth is.
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You're talking tough shit for someone in a world where Iran still exists.
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On September 03 2026 13:55 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2026 09:24 WombaT wrote:On September 03 2026 02:14 LightSpectra wrote:
I see you've chosen the laughingstock route. Don't get mad when people refuse to engage with you when you consistently meltdown when pressed too closely 🤷 Quelle fucking surprise GH alienates another potential ally and doesn’t understand why Who could have fucking thunk it? "Another potential ally" for what exactly?
The bloody socialist revolution you used to pretend you were all about to try to seem edgy and cool. He believed you actually cared about it and wasn’t just typing for internet points. It used to be harder to tell when people would jump in on your behalf to fill in the massive gulfs in your knowledge and logic.
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Northern Ireland27332 Posts
On September 03 2026 13:55 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2026 09:24 WombaT wrote:On September 03 2026 02:14 LightSpectra wrote:
I see you've chosen the laughingstock route. Don't get mad when people refuse to engage with you when you consistently meltdown when pressed too closely 🤷 Quelle fucking surprise GH alienates another potential ally and doesn’t understand why Who could have fucking thunk it? "Another potential ally" for what exactly?
I mean almost anything? No man is an island and all that
This shit doesn’t work without forming alliances and convincing people, by its very nature and having to overcome a lot of inbuilt cultural conditioning.
Which is difficult but your solution to that difficult problem appears to be a combination of lecturing and not admitting any mistakes whatsoever.
In terms of convincing people as opposed to alienating them, you’re spectacularly bad at this. I could give you a million dollars and you’d not score in a brothel
Bear in mind, we already have pretty similar political outlooks and I couldn’t be arsed anymore. What chance people on the periphery are going to convert?
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On September 03 2026 22:05 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2026 13:55 GreenHorizons wrote:On September 03 2026 09:24 WombaT wrote:On September 03 2026 02:14 LightSpectra wrote:
I see you've chosen the laughingstock route. Don't get mad when people refuse to engage with you when you consistently meltdown when pressed too closely 🤷 Quelle fucking surprise GH alienates another potential ally and doesn’t understand why Who could have fucking thunk it? "Another potential ally" for what exactly? I mean almost anything? No man is an island and all that This shit doesn’t work without forming alliances and convincing people, by its very nature and having to overcome a lot of inbuilt cultural conditioning. Which is difficult but your solution to that difficult problem appears to be a combination of lecturing and not admitting any mistakes whatsoever. In terms of convincing people as opposed to alienating them, you’re spectacularly bad at this. I could give you a million dollars and you’d not score in a brothel Bear in mind, we already have pretty similar political outlooks and I couldn’t be arsed anymore. What chance people on the periphery are going to convert?
I pointed that out to GH the last time I engaged in good faith and their response was:
"The center-left will call us self-righteous idiots on social media? Fine. Let them create their vapid digital noise. While they are laughing/crying on Bluesky about the latest idiotic thing uttered by a Republican and voter apathy (or where/whatever), we will be on the ground building the literal networks of survival. When the system inevitably fractures under its own greed, the working class won't run to the liberals who spent decades telling them to compromise. They will run to the people who actually built the infrastructure to keep them alive."
In other words, you can be as much as an obnoxious turd as you like because people will be crawling over broken glass to participate in the mutual aid network you set up for survival. It's a left-wing equivalent of evangelical Christians bragging that they'll make atheists kneel before them after the Rapture, or techbros who plan to put electroshock collars on the soldiers guarding their doomsday bunkers.
Side note, as someone who actually does participate in mutual aid in real life, most of the participants are normal folks who don't accuse you of being a murderer disciple of Adolf Hitler just because you believe voting is worth the effort to keep fascists out of office.
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Just like oBlade represents the MAGA rhetoric and what their marching orders and talking points are very well, dyhb seems to track very closely to corporate democrats who are now, a few months out from the most important elections in recent history laser focused on attacking DSA and Hasan Piker:
https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/four-house-democrats-put-forward-their-own-resolution-condemning-the-dsa/
Abdul El-Sayed in particular is being hammered by the usual suspects every day:
https://www.commondreams.org/news/cbs-news-abdul-el-sayed
With the world famous "centrist" Barri Weiss of CBS news personally directing her staff to digging up his old tweets in which the worse thing he did was said that he also mourns the victims of War on terror that 9/11 triggered.
I was randomly watching Youtube this morning and I saw Abdul on MS Now and of course, the clip they put in youtube shorts was the host asking about Hasan Piker, Abdul, like every time before that (and this "journalist" knows that) replies with "this is about elections in Michigan not a streamer in California" only for the lady to say that she "rejects that framing":
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/G_hZW0Rw5iI
It reminds me of the same MS Now crew relentlessly attacking Bernie during the 2020 primary season, they spent more time doing that then covering Trump, including comparing his campaign momentum to Nazi invasion of France or comparing his supporters to a brownshirt brigade.
Now the whole apparatus seem to be focused on attacking DSA and the duly elected Senate candidate in Michigan, a key state if they want to regain the Senate.
It's seems pretty fucking crazy to me.
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The idea that you can spend your entire political campaign attacking an Internet streamer instead of the actual opposing candidate is so fucking bonkers. Like, I think Nick Fuentes and Ben Shapiro are extremely bad people, but if a Democrat on the campaign trail did nothing but complain about them I would be so over it in about a day. Even exclusively complaining about Trump would be tiresome, but least he's an actual person in office that you have reason to campaign against.
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United States24328 Posts
On September 03 2026 22:05 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2026 13:55 GreenHorizons wrote:On September 03 2026 09:24 WombaT wrote:On September 03 2026 02:14 LightSpectra wrote:
I see you've chosen the laughingstock route. Don't get mad when people refuse to engage with you when you consistently meltdown when pressed too closely 🤷 Quelle fucking surprise GH alienates another potential ally and doesn’t understand why Who could have fucking thunk it? "Another potential ally" for what exactly? I mean almost anything? + Show Spoiler +No man is an island and all that
This shit doesn’t work without forming alliances and convincing people, by its very nature and having to overcome a lot of inbuilt cultural conditioning.
Which is difficult but your solution to that difficult problem appears to be a combination of lecturing and not admitting any mistakes whatsoever.
In terms of convincing people as opposed to alienating them, you’re spectacularly bad at this. I could give you a million dollars and you’d not score in a brothel
Bear in mind, we already have pretty similar political outlooks and I couldn’t be arsed anymore. What chance people on the periphery are going to convert?
I don't think many people here are good allies even to relatively liberal/Democrat principles. All people do here is hobbyist escapism.
Fleetfeet was the last example I remember of someone trying ally stuff: On July 29 2026 14:01 Fleetfeet wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2026 12:07 Billyboy wrote:On July 29 2026 11:42 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 29 2026 10:59 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:I can't even tell what they are arguing about. I don't think they even have fundamentally different political stances. + Show Spoiler +I don't think GH understands 'vote blue no matter who' is a temporary, practical stance, and everyone's version of leftism is a more long standing philosophical stance.
Vote blue no matter who doesn't mean you are happy with the candidates the Democrats are putting up. It just means they are at the time, less bad than the opposition. Does it suck that this encourages/allows the Democrats to constantly run candidates who are... subpar to say the least? Absolutely. But what are you going to do specifically in that election? Your options are limited vote blue, vote red, vote independent or don't vote. You can do OTHER stuff in the meantime, but you still need to make this decision on the actual election.
You can still be advocating for 'non reformist reforms' or still be organising on the side, but none of that is going to stop the ongoing election from happening. What are you going to do? Vote for the Republican/conservative on the other side who are openly advocating for things you don't want? That would be, at best, some form of accelerationism.
As Jankiska has mentioned repeatedly now, he would not support Klobuchar/Buttigieg because they are against, say.. universal healthcare (though I question how much how much they, like any liberals are against it so much as pre-compromising with the opposition before staking their positions as liberals tend to do). I'm sure HE believes they should stop infighting with the left on that issue and just be for universal healthcare.
But if they did, hypothetically win the next Dem primary, and are running against... Rubio or Trump3 or Vance, what are you going to do? Not vote for Klobuchar/Buttigieg?
Noone is saying you shouldn't vote/canvass/organise against them in primaries or just outside of that specific election in general. And I understand voting for them surrenders leverage to the 'center', where they have no reason to listen to the left if the left votes for them anyway. But would you really advocate for not voting blue in an actual election where the alternative is actively worse?
Is your stance? 'Fuck it, let the right invade Cuba, or tarriff everyone,' or whatever else those ghouls stand for?
Because that's why people talk about harm reduction. To do otherwise is accelerationism, 'we'll let the Republicans win, and if they make things bad enough the Dems will have to compromise with the left'
There aren't people here (that I can tell), certainly that would describe themselves as leftists, who are philosophically 'vote blue no matter who', there are a bunch of leftists who aren't accelerationists, so the practical short term options for them are to vote blue or let their country burn(more so than it already is). Think it is pretty obvious we do. Do you also not have any policies/points that the corporate/establishment/moderate/thirdway/Klobuchar/Buttigieg/whatever Democrats need to stop infighting about and concede to those to their left in order to not self-sabotage? Did I stumble on the Blue MAGA version of "Who won the 2020 election?" Classic GH, gets an opportunity to explain himself and possibly gain an ally, but because he can’t and wants to protect his ego, he attacks. Don’t worry doubleup, it’s him not you. Speaking of ally, GH has previously mentioned that their pronouns are "they", presumably they/them/themselves/their etc. Not calling you out because I think you're intentionally being a shitter, just letting you know in case you missed it.
They also didn't try to make me kiss their ass first or praise them in exchange. They just did the thing that aligned with their principles.
Remember when I said: You guys really don't appreciate how miserable you (either actively or by what you allow around you) make these spaces for people other than whiteclub/adjacent guys. You have to understand you all are a major reason why there aren't more women and Black people here and around various scenes and why we typically would rather just not be around you whether that means making our own spaces or just abandoning an interest because the community around that interest is too toxic for an individual to tolerate. + Show Spoiler +
Historically/evidently the primary way to get white men (and their lackeys) to be less bigoted shitheads in the US is to force them against their will and let them retroactively explain how it was really their idea/intent all along. That's something that connects all these issues.
It doesn't pass the sniff test as unintentional at this point.
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On September 03 2026 23:14 Jankisa wrote:
Just like oBlade represents the MAGA rhetoric and what their marching orders and talking points are very well, dyhb seems to track very closely to corporate democrats Imagine Democrats running in purple districts (swing districts) trying to distance themselves from the left wing of their party.
Shocking, simply shocking.
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United States24328 Posts
On September 03 2026 23:14 Jankisa wrote:Just like oBlade represents the MAGA rhetoric and what their marching orders and talking points are very well, dyhb seems to track very closely to corporate democrats who are now, a few months out from the most important elections in recent history laser focused on attacking DSA and Hasan Piker: https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/four-house-democrats-put-forward-their-own-resolution-condemning-the-dsa/Abdul El-Sayed in particular is being hammered by the usual suspects every day: https://www.commondreams.org/news/cbs-news-abdul-el-sayedWith the world famous "centrist" Barri Weiss of CBS news personally directing her staff to digging up his old tweets in which the worse thing he did was said that he also mourns the victims of War on terror that 9/11 triggered. I was randomly watching Youtube this morning and I saw Abdul on MS Now and of course, the clip they put in youtube shorts was the host asking about Hasan Piker, Abdul, like every time before that (and this "journalist" knows that) replies with "this is about elections in Michigan not a streamer in California" only for the lady to say that she "rejects that framing": https://www.youtube.com/shorts/G_hZW0Rw5iIIt reminds me of the same MS Now crew relentlessly attacking Bernie during the 2020 primary season, they spent more time doing that then covering Trump, including comparing his campaign momentum to Nazi invasion of France or comparing his supporters to a brownshirt brigade. Now the whole apparatus seem to be focused on attacking DSA and the duly elected Senate candidate in Michigan, a key state if they want to regain the Senate. It's seems pretty fucking crazy to me.
It's demonstrative of the corporate/establishment/thirdway/etc Democrats literally being key opposition to even tepid social democrat progress I've been pointing out (despite harsh pushback) for years. "Blue no matter who" is a one way street to the right that will have you telling me to fall in line behind dyhb by election time.
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On September 03 2026 08:54 Sermokala wrote:
Bush is in Arabian Sea fighting people without wifi
From beyond the grave.
On September 03 2026 22:05 WombaT wrote: I could give you a million dollars and you’d not score in a brothel
I volunteer.
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On September 03 2026 22:33 LightSpectra wrote:
"The center-left will call us self-righteous idiots on social media? Fine. Let them create their vapid digital noise. While they are laughing/crying on Bluesky about the latest idiotic thing uttered by a Republican and voter apathy (or where/whatever), we will be on the ground building the literal networks of survival. When the system inevitably fractures under its own greed, the working class won't run to the liberals who spent decades telling them to compromise. They will run to the people who actually built the infrastructure to keep them alive."
Some serious Rorschach vibes there, I always found it funny how morons idealized that guy when he was designed as a critique of extreme moral absolutism and right-wing political philosophies.
Funny how GH sounding like him further validates the horse shoe (3 pronged one) theory for me.
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United States24328 Posts
On September 04 2026 00:04 Jankisa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2026 22:33 LightSpectra wrote:
"The center-left will call us self-righteous idiots on social media? Fine. Let them create their vapid digital noise. While they are laughing/crying on Bluesky about the latest idiotic thing uttered by a Republican and voter apathy (or where/whatever), we will be on the ground building the literal networks of survival. When the system inevitably fractures under its own greed, the working class won't run to the liberals who spent decades telling them to compromise. They will run to the people who actually built the infrastructure to keep them alive."
+ Show Spoiler +
Some serious Rorschach vibes there, I always found it funny how morons idealized that guy when he was designed as a critique of extreme moral absolutism and right-wing political philosophies.
Funny how GH sounding like him further validates the horse shoe (3 pronged one) theory for me.
Why do you think pretty much all serious political scientists (regardless of political leanings) dismiss horseshoe theory (not even your asinine extension of it) as pop culture tripe?
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