You seem to simultaneously be eulogising a period where criminals were put off by mandatory 7 year sentences for any gun crime, while also conceding that crime was worse then? Make it make sense
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26232 Posts
You seem to simultaneously be eulogising a period where criminals were put off by mandatory 7 year sentences for any gun crime, while also conceding that crime was worse then? Make it make sense | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17242 Posts
On December 01 2025 09:19 WombaT wrote: What is your point? You seem to simultaneously be eulogising a period where criminals were put off by mandatory 7 year sentences for any gun crime, while also conceding that crime was worse then? Make it make sense i am introducing facts that verify NYC was far more dangerous in the 1980s and early 1990s than it is today. | ||
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KwarK
United States43544 Posts
On December 01 2025 09:21 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i am introducing facts that verify NYC was far more dangerous in the 1980s and early 1990s than it is today. You’re mostly describing Seinfeld material from memory. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26232 Posts
On December 01 2025 09:21 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i am introducing facts that verify NYC was far more dangerous in the 1980s and early 1990s than it is today. What is your point? | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17242 Posts
On December 01 2025 08:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote: How is this possible? According to Trump a frail old man would get mugged by 30 illegal south american immigrants. get it now? the hysteria over crime in NYC is unfounded. Also, I'd like to add that "crime stats" do not provide a full picture. Going back to Seinfeld in the early 90s all his electronics are stolen during a show. During the entire episode he is 100% aware that filing a police report includes a 0% chance his stuff will be recovered. Thus, lots of crimes get committed without being reported. Reporting crimes is often pointless. Google searches provide a limited perspective of what was going on in the 80s. We are also getting only a limited view of what is happening unless today unless we go there and experience it for ourselves. | ||
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EnDeR_
Spain2777 Posts
www.theguardian.com Zarah Sultana has boycotted the first day of Your Party’s inaugural conference, throwing the party’s first official gathering into chaos amid disagreements with co-founder Jeremy Corbyn over how the party should be run. It's a bit of a "what if AOC and Sanders founded their own independent progressive party"? | ||
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Legan
Finland554 Posts
On December 01 2025 08:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote: the oil requires a lot of refining. a metric tonne of infrastructure will have to be put in place to make that possible. Trump will be long gone by the time that becomes possible. The political will to flagrantly break international law will dissipate after Trump's tenure is over. . The oil is likely more of a bonus for Trump than the war's real goal. He will get his bribes for handing the oil over to companies much earlier. He will probably also use them to claim that the war was profitable for the USA, unlike Iraq or Afghanistan, which will probably do well with his base. Even if the will to break international law dissipates, which I doubt, the wrongdoings will not be acted upon. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18207 Posts
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Sadist
United States7322 Posts
Jimmy have you looked into the typical explanations for this? Crack epidemic, lead, loss of jobs/oppprtunities, breakdown of 2 parent home, aggressive policing, racial tensions, etc? | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany1109 Posts
I mean of course the manpower and material would be needed in ukraine, Trump again is breaking promises, and only does this to make $$$.. but Maduro seems like an asshole. A Country with "free" gasoline.. that's...outragious! Given the power imbalance.... this will be over quick and than it's US nation-building again - as was to be expected because Trump said he wasn't going to do it. Spiking Oil-Prices would be beneficial to the friends of the golden toilet around the globe and hide the ongoing recession - created by Trump-Tariffs. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26232 Posts
On December 01 2025 16:01 EnDeR_ wrote: I know it's not US Pol, but I couldn't help seeing the similarities to US progressives. www.theguardian.com It's a bit of a "what if AOC and Sanders founded their own independent progressive party"? I can’t see that being quite as much of a clusterfuck as this. I mean I like Corbyn, but if he has a big weakness it’s the real nuts and bolts of running a party, maintaining discipline, having consistent messaging etc. A problem if one is a political leader, although not an insurmountable one. But my lord this does really illustrate that. And man the real hardcore Corbynistas gave me giant pushback back in the day for any criticism of Corbyn haha. That said, from the outside looking in on what’s public, Zarah Sultana feels more to blame, and quite frankly sounds a nightmare to work with. Buttttt if it is an old-boys club and she’s getting pushback at every second juncture as she’s claimed, then I’d feel rather differently there! | ||
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Jankisa
Croatia1118 Posts
On December 01 2025 21:11 KT_Elwood wrote: Why is killing/removing Maduro in Venezuela bad? I mean of course the manpower and material would be needed in ukraine, Trump again is breaking promises, and only does this to make $$$.. but Maduro seems like an asshole. A Country with "free" gasoline.. that's...outragious! Given the power imbalance.... this will be over quick and than it's US nation-building again - as was to be expected because Trump said he wasn't going to do it. Spiking Oil-Prices would be beneficial to the friends of the golden toilet around the globe and hide the ongoing recession - created by Trump-Tariffs. I for one don't really subscribe to "well, this leader is an asshole so lets bomb their country" approach to geopolitics. What stops Trump from saying that Canada, Panama or Mexico are next, will you decide what your reaction to this will be based on how much you like or dislike their current leadership? How was the power imbalance in Afghanistan? That was another in and out, 20 days adventure, right? It's like no one learned nothing over the last 30 years, if and when US goes into Venezuela there will be a lot of dead, both military and civilian, the Venezuelan population will suffer because Trump's regime sees them as subhuman and will do jack shit to help the country get to a better place, they will fuck up the infrastructure, install some crony of theirs to loot the country further and then dip out. The looting, of course, will benefit the coffers of Trump and his cronies. Spiking oil prices will give Russia a lifeline, a lot of their economic turmoil is thanks to low prices of Oil. People don't take kindly when you come to their country and blow shit up, no matter how much their hate their current piece of shit in charge, this is a disaster waiting to happen and there is 0 hystorical precedent saying otherwise. If you can name one, please enlighten me, because all I can think of are wonderful places like Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq etc. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45253 Posts
The US military has killed 83 people in 21 strikes that have destroyed 22 boats as part of a campaign that Washington says is aimed at curtailing the flow of drugs into the United States. ... The Trump administration has told Congress that the US is now in an “armed conflict” against drug cartels beginning with its first strike on September 2 ... The Trump administration has also not provided public evidence of the presence of narcotics on the boats struck, nor their affiliation with drug cartels. ... https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/02/politics/timeline-us-strikes-caribbean-pacific-vis September 2, first attack: Trump announced the offensive on his social media accounts and said that under his orders, US forces “conducted a kinetic strike against positively identified Tren de Aragua Narcoterrorists in the SOUTHCOM area of responsibility.” ... Defense Department officials have not, during briefings to members of Congress, presented conclusive evidence that the targets of the first attack were members of Tren de Aragua, and that those briefed said military officials could not determine the intended destination of the boat with certainty. CNN also reported that the boat appeared to have turned around before it was struck. The strike killed 11 people. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17242 Posts
Black Friday spending was up 4.1% compared to last year. https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/29/business/black-friday-us-econony-spending “The story of the economy right now is it’s a bifurcated economy. If you’re lucky enough to own stocks and own a home, you’re part of the upper slant of that cave, that K-shaped economy … you’re going to be comfortable spending a fair amount of money this year,” Newman said. We are expecting to see Cyber Monday deliver strong.” User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22081 Posts
On December 01 2025 21:11 KT_Elwood wrote: Take out the specific person and try again.Why is killing/removing Maduro in Venezuela bad? I mean of course the manpower and material would be needed in ukraine, Trump again is breaking promises, and only does this to make $$$.. but Maduro seems like an asshole. A Country with "free" gasoline.. that's...outragious! Given the power imbalance.... this will be over quick and than it's US nation-building again - as was to be expected because Trump said he wasn't going to do it. Spiking Oil-Prices would be beneficial to the friends of the golden toilet around the globe and hide the ongoing recession - created by Trump-Tariffs. Superpower doesn't like country, starts unprovoked war and removes their leadership. When has this ever in the history of mankind lead to an improvement in anyone's situation? | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17242 Posts
On December 01 2025 21:11 KT_Elwood wrote: and than it's US nation-building again - as was to be expected because Trump said he wasn't going to do it. Spiking Oil-Prices would be beneficial to the friends of the golden toilet around the globe and hide the ongoing recession - created by Trump-Tariffs. I always thought the purpose of "Desert Storm" and the time spent in Iraq was intended to destabilize the region causing oil prices to rise. This allows Bush's oil pals to make more money. Obviously, the cost of pulling oil out of the ground in Texas is not going up. Its just another day in Texas. So skyrocketing oil prices are an amazing side effect of I never bought the "no blood for oil" opposition perspective. EDIT: and obviously, they are feeding the US Military Industrial Complex during that entire time as well. When you're holding 1000 hammers you'll go any where to find some nails. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45253 Posts
(The past few days) "Trump told military service members last week the U.S. would "very soon" begin land operations to stop suspected Venezuelan drug traffickers." https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-confirms-he-spoke-with-venezuelas-maduro-2025-11-30/ (The past few days) " “In recent weeks, you’ve been working to deter Venezuelan drug traffickers, of which there are many. Of course, there aren’t too many coming in by sea anymore,” Trump told service members in the call. “You probably noticed that people aren’t wanting to be delivering by sea, and we’ll be starting to stop them by land also,” the president continued. “The land is easier, but that’s going to start very soon." " https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/27/politics/trump-says-us-land-action-in-venezuela-very-soon This is an escalation from a few weeks ago, where the original position was to stay away from land operations: (Almost a month ago) "Trump administration officials told lawmakers on Wednesday that the US is not currently planning to launch strikes inside Venezuela and doesn’t have a legal justification that would support attacks against any land targets right now, according to sources familiar with the briefing conducted by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and an official from the White House’s Office of Legal Counsel. Lawmakers were told during the classified session that the opinion produced by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel to justify strikes against suspected drug boats, first reported by CNN last month, does not permit strikes inside Venezuela itself or any other territories, four sources said. The “execute order” that launched the US military campaign against suspected drug boats that began in September also does not extend to land targets, the briefers said, according to the sources. The officials did not rule out any potential future actions, one of the sources said." https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/06/politics/trump-venezuela-legal-congress-land | ||
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KT_Elwood
Germany1109 Posts
On December 01 2025 22:22 Gorsameth wrote: Take out the specific person and try again. Superpower doesn't like country, starts unprovoked war and removes their leadership. When has this ever in the history of mankind lead to an improvement in anyone's situation? ![]() | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22081 Posts
wanne try again? | ||
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Legan
Finland554 Posts
Outside of Venezuela, there is a chance that a similar strategy will be implemented against other South American countries, and the campaign against narcoterrorists can be expanded. Trump has already attacked at least Honduras and Brazil over their current leadership. Maybe not so many will get killed in chaos or by the USA, but fear and control will allow wealth to be funnelled to Trump and those willing to support him. | ||
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