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Northern Ireland27478 Posts
On March 02 2022 11:20 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2022 11:10 BlackJack wrote:
So if the definition of racist is so broad that even the guy that served under the first black president fits the bill then it kind of loses its bite. Serving under the first black president as a white man doesn't necessarily make you "not racist." Many racist people have done major things that seem inconsistent with them being racist at first glance. This understanding of racism is overly simplistic.
Hey Donald Sterling wasn’t racist he was a big employer for the African American community!
He was even alright with his mistress banging a black guy as long as he didn’t hear about it
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The standing and clapping during sotu is so infuriating. The phoniness of it all sure doesn't inspire confidence during these scary times. Had a few moments of graveness and real talk about Ukraine in the beginning and now it's like campaign stumping.
Global minimum tax rate is good to hear brought up though.
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United States44449 Posts
On March 02 2022 11:30 Jerubaal wrote:
Does anyone else hear about the "infrastructure bill" and just think about how many hundreds of billions of dollars are going straight into the pockets of contractors and subcontractors?
Joe Biden is describing all the problems he and his party caused and then saying that he was the solution.
No
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On March 02 2022 11:20 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2022 11:10 BlackJack wrote:
So if the definition of racist is so broad that even the guy that served under the first black president fits the bill then it kind of loses its bite. Serving under the first black president as a white man doesn't necessarily make you "not racist." Many racist people have done major things that seem inconsistent with them being racist at first glance. This understanding of racism is overly simplistic.
Before he became VP, Biden's too biggest contributions were a) a disastrous crime bill that hurt blacks b) turning a SCOTUS nomination into a sideshow by defaming one of the greatest legal minds of the generation, who was also black.
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On March 02 2022 11:20 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2022 11:10 BlackJack wrote:
So if the definition of racist is so broad that even the guy that served under the first black president fits the bill then it kind of loses its bite. Serving under the first black president as a white man doesn't necessarily make you "not racist." Many racist people have done major things that seem inconsistent with them being racist at first glance. This understanding of racism is overly simplistic.
The simplistic understanding of racism are the people in this thread that think a question like whether an entire political party is racist can be answered as a yes/no question.
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United States24813 Posts
I'll interpret that as a, "you are right but I'll bring up another example that I think is more egregious so it will make my original somewhat flawed argument look less bad by comparison."
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Give it up @BlackJack. This thread is purely performative. I'm just here to, hopefully, some shove some of their own shit under their nose.
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On March 02 2022 11:52 micronesia wrote:
I'll interpret that as a, "you are right but I'll bring up another example that I think is more egregious so it will make my original somewhat flawed argument look less bad by comparison."
Yeah, you are right. Serving under a black President doesn't automatically make you not a racist. I'll happily concede that part of my argument since it is obviously distracting from my broader point.
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Honestly a great speech, one of the best from Biden. Not sure how much will actually get done but it is a great speech.
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On March 02 2022 11:56 Jerubaal wrote:
Give it up @BlackJack. This thread is purely performative. I'm just here to, hopefully, some shove some of their own shit under their nose.
By describing how Hunter Biden, who is his own person, has affiliations with Ukrainian companies, and that that is proof that Joe is listening to an amorphous shadowy "they" for corrupt profiteering purposes?
You'll forgive the people you're trying to own if they don't necessarily feel owned by that argument.
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His speech was composed of the following:
1. Drumbeating on platitudes: Ukraine, Built in America
2. Pretending he was the solution to problems he and his party caused (lockdowns, inflation)
3. Taking credit for things he didn't do: Intel plant, some of them things Trump explicitly did
4. Nonsense distractions like the fake voting suppression and trans violence
User was temp banned for this post.
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On March 02 2022 12:08 Jerubaal wrote:
His speech was composed of the following:
1. Drumbeating on platitudes: Ukraine, Built in America
2. Pretending he was the solution to problems he and his party caused (lockdowns, inflation)
3. Taking credit for things he didn't do: Intel plant, some of them things Trump explicitly did
4. Nonsense distractions like the fake voting suppression and trans violence
Yeah, fuck off.
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Northern Ireland27478 Posts
On March 02 2022 11:48 BlackJack wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2022 11:20 micronesia wrote:On March 02 2022 11:10 BlackJack wrote:
So if the definition of racist is so broad that even the guy that served under the first black president fits the bill then it kind of loses its bite. Serving under the first black president as a white man doesn't necessarily make you "not racist." Many racist people have done major things that seem inconsistent with them being racist at first glance. This understanding of racism is overly simplistic. The simplistic understanding of racism are the people in this thread that think a question like whether an entire political party is racist can be answered as a yes/no question.
Are there racists on TL? By the law of averages almost certainly.
If they post racist bile on TL, are they immediately banned? Also yes.
Is TL a racist organisation because it has racists posting under its banner? Well no, because they get banned if they make themselves known.
I assume you see where I’m going with this analogy
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On March 02 2022 12:07 NewSunshine wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2022 11:56 Jerubaal wrote:
Give it up @BlackJack. This thread is purely performative. I'm just here to, hopefully, some shove some of their own shit under their nose. By describing how Hunter Biden, who is his own person, has affiliations with Ukrainian companies, and that that is proof that Joe is listening to an amorphous shadowy "they" for corrupt profiteering purposes? You'll forgive the people you're trying to own if they don't necessarily feel owned by that argument.
What I just still can't fathom is how, if we just changed the details around a little bit, you'd be all over this. If I said this was Mitch McConnell (or even Nancy Pelosi, I'm sure), you'd rail against it. If I was a super Lefty who said that all mainstream politicians were sellouts to corporate interests, you'd be sagely nodding along with me. We've known who Joe Biden is for forever. I'm not even saying the worst I could say about him. I'm saying his an opportunist. There is no "they", there is only whoever is in front of him. Maybe I'm guilty of overpersonalizing but that's actually my point. There is no "Joe Biden". It's just whatever gets put on his docket.
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On March 02 2022 12:09 NewSunshine wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2022 12:08 Jerubaal wrote:
His speech was composed of the following:
1. Drumbeating on platitudes: Ukraine, Built in America
2. Pretending he was the solution to problems he and his party caused (lockdowns, inflation)
3. Taking credit for things he didn't do: Intel plant, some of them things Trump explicitly did
4. Nonsense distractions like the fake voting suppression and trans violence Yeah, fuck off.
I was told it was illegal to insinuate that our elections were not 100% secure.
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