[Shooting] Gay Night Club in Orlando - Page 13
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On June 13 2016 07:14 CosmicSpiral wrote: If this stemmed from a radical interpretation of Islam, he wouldn't have made the 911 call. I'm not saying it's 100% the cause or more specifically that it wouldn't be the only factor. But it could be a contribution. There's people chopping gay people's heads off in Saudi Arabia that doesn't just come from nothing. | ||
Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On June 13 2016 07:16 Djzapz wrote: What, hold my hand and lead me through your reasoning here I'm being held back by not knowing the details on this story so what im getting is -He called 911 -Came in guns blazing (automatic weapon?) -Got shot by police What I'm hearing from this thread is he, like a good citizen called the cops and then maybe accidentally hit a few people in the club while trying to kill himself. | ||
Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On June 13 2016 07:06 Plansix wrote: I give that thread 3 days before it would be closed. Abd each event should be discussed based on its own set of facts. I'm not even sure it would last 30 minutes | ||
Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
On June 13 2016 07:21 Slayer91 wrote: I'm being held back by not knowing the details on this story so what im getting is -He called 911 -Came in guns blazing (automatic weapon?) -Got shot by police What I'm hearing from this thread is he, like a good citizen called the cops and then maybe accidentally hit a few people in the club while trying to kill himself. Maybe. When I heard he called the cops I thought it was more of a stunt. | ||
Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9212 Posts
I know it gets posted every time but here it is again. | ||
Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On June 13 2016 07:38 Jockmcplop wrote: How many times do we have to have the media do an in-depth profile of mass murderers before they get the picture that it just encourages more? I know it gets posted every time but here it is again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PezlFNTGWv4 Well if you want to be cynical about this, it gets people interested and increases their viewer counts so it's successful in terms of a business move. Even if it makes more of this happen it's a sort of minor contributing factor and the ethics clash with doing their job of trying to cover the news story people want covered. | ||
Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9212 Posts
On June 13 2016 07:44 Slayer91 wrote: Well if you want to be cynical about this, it gets people interested and increases their viewer counts so it's successful in terms of a business move. Even if it makes more of this happen it's a sort of minor contributing factor and the ethics clash with doing their job of trying to cover the news story people want covered. I know there's a cynicism caveat there but this is how people think and I find it so nihilistic that it borders on psychopathy. | ||
Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
it's more like they rationalise away even considering they are doing harm by doing this. | ||
Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9212 Posts
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KwarK
United States41665 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
Ugh... disturbing thought | ||
SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
Last night, our nation was attacked by a radical Islamic terrorist. It was the worst terrorist attack on our soil since 9/11, and the second of its kind in 6 months. My deepest sympathy and support goes out to the victims, the wounded, and their families. In his remarks today, President Obama disgracefully refused to even say the words 'Radical Islam'. For that reason alone, he should step down. If Hillary Clinton, after this attack, still cannot say the two words 'Radical Islam' she should get out of this race for the Presidency. If we do not get tough and smart real fast, we are not going to have a country anymore. Because our leaders are weak, I said this was going to happen – and it is only going to get worse. I am trying to save lives and prevent the next terrorist attack. We can't afford to be politically correct anymore. The terrorist, Omar Mir Saddique Mateen, is the son of an immigrant from Afghanistan who openly published his support for the Afghanistani Taliban and even tried to run for President of Afghanistan. According to Pew, 99% of people in Afghanistan support oppressive Sharia Law. We admit more than 100,000 lifetime migrants from the Middle East each year. Since 9/11, hundreds of migrants and their children have been implicated in terrorism in the United States. Hillary Clinton wants to dramatically increase admissions from the Middle East, bringing in many hundreds of thousands during a first term – and we will have no way to screen them, pay for them, or prevent the second generation from radicalizing. We need to protect all Americans, of all backgrounds and all beliefs, from Radical Islamic Terrorism - which has no place in an open and tolerant society. Radical Islam advocates hate for women, gays, Jews, Christians and all Americans. I am going to be a President for all Americans, and I am going to protect and defend all Americans. We are going to make America safe again and great again for everyone. - Donald J. Trump + Show Spoiler + User was temp banned for this post. | ||
TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
Edit: I mean it's not like he hasn't mentioned ISIS before in his speeches, so I think that that at least would have come up in it even if he didn't ascribe it to "radical Islam." I'm also not sure when the 911 call info came in. So maybe Trump is saying he would have blamed it on ISIS even if they didn't take responsibility? Edit2: It's also kind of weird that Trump would be more concerned about not blaming it on ISIS despite knowing it was ISIS rather than not saying the words "radical Islam" but I guess that's just him | ||
Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
On June 13 2016 10:09 TheTenthDoc wrote: Didn't Obama give his speech before Reuters' confirmed ISIS was claiming responsibility? Or do I have the timeline (mostly based on this thread) mixed up? I don''t think it was confirmed at the time although NBCnews did claim that they had sources. not sure when it was officially confirmed but it was either after of immediately before when it's kinda too late to check it or edit the speech. also Trump seems to be ignoring how comprehensive the US immigration program is. It's obviously not perfect but We don't just let people in without doing comprehensive checks that take up to 2 years. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Revolting. | ||
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Parlortricks
United States111 Posts
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