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On June 13 2016 04:53 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 04:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I would be suspicious of that belief. Radical Islam is the public justification and motivation of those who are not in charge. But among the heads of terrorist organizations, it's hard to know how much of their motivation is ideological.
Sure, and those who are in charge are generally not seen committing the attacks, so I think the point stands.
Hmm, I worded that poorly. I meant the reason why those people are attracted to ISIS, etc. in the first place is not the radical ideology and those heads understand this better than the media lets on. It should be telling that so much of their recruitment comes from Westernized Muslim youth who were not especially religious or radical in their youth.
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On June 13 2016 04:54 zeo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 04:50 Plansix wrote:On June 13 2016 04:46 NovaTheFeared wrote:Mir Seddique, Mateen's father, told NBC News, "this has nothing to do with religion." Seddique said his son got angry when he saw two men kissing in Miami a couple of months ago and thinks that may be related to the shooting. It had nothing to do with religion, except that the religion told me to hate gays, father says. What an incredible statement. Christianity? Imagine if the shooter didn't want to bake a cake for those 100+ gays he shot. Obama would have been all over that radical Christian terrorism
Hey man refusing to bake a cake is on the same level as murdering gays senselessly. This isn't just a muslim problem. Republicans have treated gays equally bad.
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On June 13 2016 04:59 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 04:53 Nebuchad wrote:On June 13 2016 04:32 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I would be suspicious of that belief. Radical Islam is the public justification and motivation of those who are not in charge. But among the heads of terrorist organizations, it's hard to know how much of their motivation is ideological.
Sure, and those who are in charge are generally not seen committing the attacks, so I think the point stands. Hmm, I worded that poorly. I meant the reason why those people are attracted to ISIS, etc. in the first place is not the radical ideology and those heads understand this better than the media lets on. It should be telling that so much of their recruitment comes from Westernized Muslim youth who were not especially religious or radical in their youth.
In the context of how the events will be perceived by people who think all muslims are terrorists, I don't think the distinction is very important. All that is needed is association, and the association is there.
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Trump didn't wait too long to start doing some politics.
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On June 13 2016 05:27 Djzapz wrote:
Trump didn't wait too long to start doing some politics.
He took no time in taking credit for predicting terrorism would happen again, somewhere, someplace.
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gay men can't donate blood in Florida? lolz.
i'm sure a mass shooting like this taxes the blood supply.
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On June 13 2016 05:32 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 05:27 Djzapz wrote:
Trump didn't wait too long to start doing some politics. He took no time in taking credit for predicting terrorism would happen again, somewhere, someplace.
Been doing the rain dance for 3 weeks and then it rained, therefore the rain dance works.
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On June 13 2016 05:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
gay men can't donate blood in Florida? lolz.
i'm sure a mass shooting like this taxes the blood supply.
gays are not allowed to donate blood in many countries. Same as you are not allowed to donate blood in Germany, if you had extended stays in Great Britain during the 80s, you had sex with prostitutes or you had a recent vacation in certain tropical regions. It is just about risk groups...
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its hilarious watching the "lock'em up and throw away the key" law and order gang try to say that the death penalty deters suicides...
On June 13 2016 05:42 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 05:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
gay men can't donate blood in Florida? lolz.
i'm sure a mass shooting like this taxes the blood supply. gays are not allowed to donate blood in many countries. Same as you are not allowed to donate blood in Germany, if you had extended stays in Great Britain during the 80s, you had sex with prostitutes or you had a recent vacation in certain tropical regions. It is just about risk groups...
the blood supply in Canada is safer than in the US and gay men can donate blood in Canada and have been able to do so for 20 years. its a BS policy.
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On June 13 2016 05:42 mahrgell wrote:
if you had extended stays in Great Britain during the 80s
Was this about mad cow disease, or am I spouting nonsense off the top of my head?
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On June 13 2016 05:47 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 05:42 mahrgell wrote:
if you had extended stays in Great Britain during the 80s
Was this about mad cow disease, or am I spouting nonsense off the top of my head?
yep, it is
There are actually certain other events, but this were the ones I remember. I was a regular donor until 3 years ago, so don't remember the entire list of reasons of not being allowed to donate. Could probably find it online.
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On June 13 2016 05:43 JimmyJRaynor wrote:its hilarious watching the "lock'em up and throw away the key" law and order gang try to say that the death penalty deters suicides... Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 05:42 mahrgell wrote:On June 13 2016 05:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
gay men can't donate blood in Florida? lolz.
i'm sure a mass shooting like this taxes the blood supply. gays are not allowed to donate blood in many countries. Same as you are not allowed to donate blood in Germany, if you had extended stays in Great Britain during the 80s, you had sex with prostitutes or you had a recent vacation in certain tropical regions. It is just about risk groups... the blood supply in Canada is safer than in the US and gay men can donate blood in Canada and have been able to do so for 20 years. its a BS policy.
Sorry for the slightly off-topic posting, but considering:
[Gay Men] represent about 4% of the male population in the United States, in 2010, MSM accounted for 78% of new HIV infections among males and 63% of all new infections. MSM accounted for 54% of all people living with HIV infection in 2011, the most recent year these data are available.
Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/statistics/overview/ataglance.html
There may be a viable reason that certain states don't allow it. I don't really have an opinion either way, but to say that its a BS policy when I think they're doing it to keep others safe, is naive.
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Great post, thanks for sharing. Did not know about this study.
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On June 13 2016 06:03 ClanRH.TV wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 05:43 JimmyJRaynor wrote:its hilarious watching the "lock'em up and throw away the key" law and order gang try to say that the death penalty deters suicides... On June 13 2016 05:42 mahrgell wrote:On June 13 2016 05:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
gay men can't donate blood in Florida? lolz.
i'm sure a mass shooting like this taxes the blood supply. gays are not allowed to donate blood in many countries. Same as you are not allowed to donate blood in Germany, if you had extended stays in Great Britain during the 80s, you had sex with prostitutes or you had a recent vacation in certain tropical regions. It is just about risk groups... the blood supply in Canada is safer than in the US and gay men can donate blood in Canada and have been able to do so for 20 years. its a BS policy. Sorry for the slightly off-topic posting, but considering: Show nested quote + [Gay Men] represent about 4% of the male population in the United States, in 2010, MSM accounted for 78% of new HIV infections among males and 63% of all new infections. MSM accounted for 54% of all people living with HIV infection in 2011, the most recent year these data are available. Source: http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/statistics/overview/ataglance.htmlThere may be a viable reason that certain states don't allow it. I don't really have an opinion either way, but to say that its a BS policy when I think they're doing it to keep others safe, is naive.
I read recently that their changing it too you can donate if your clean and haven't had sex for 2 years. not sure when that's happening though
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On June 13 2016 05:43 JimmyJRaynor wrote:its hilarious watching the "lock'em up and throw away the key" law and order gang try to say that the death penalty deters suicides... Show nested quote +On June 13 2016 05:42 mahrgell wrote:On June 13 2016 05:35 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
gay men can't donate blood in Florida? lolz.
i'm sure a mass shooting like this taxes the blood supply. gays are not allowed to donate blood in many countries. Same as you are not allowed to donate blood in Germany, if you had extended stays in Great Britain during the 80s, you had sex with prostitutes or you had a recent vacation in certain tropical regions. It is just about risk groups... the blood supply in Canada is safer than in the US and gay men can donate blood in Canada and have been able to do so for 20 years. its a BS policy.
Gay men cannot donate blood in Canada only if they havent had sex in the last 5 years with no history of HIV with testing.
Its not quite so simple as they can in Canada btw
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On June 13 2016 06:03 SoSexy wrote:Great post, thanks for sharing. Did not know about this study.
I thought everyone knew about that study I've seen it a million times.
@ClanRH.TV
I've updated the OP. Not really sure if its the right way to construct it but I'll put updated news at the top of the post.
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I would like to see that graphic including 'Western' muslims to eliminate geographical/cultural differences.
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On June 13 2016 06:20 Jockmcplop wrote:
I would like to see that graphic including 'Western' muslims to eliminate geographical/cultural differences.
I feel like Britain has some of the most successful Muslim integration in the world but even then around half of British Muslims believe Homosexuality should be illegal.
I think i saw a graph pointing that out earlier in this thread.
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