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On June 13 2015 03:46 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 03:40 WindWolf wrote:
If this has HTML5, YTG has imminently won it for me. With how unstable Flash has been compared to HTML5, I would choose a HTML5 service all days of the week
Not to mentioned that I personally feel that Twitch hasn't improved that much in quite a while... HTML5 won't help if there's not anything worthwhile to watch (except tournaments). I do agree though. I personally don't expect anything major out of this just yet.
There will certainly be some growing pains. But with how little improvement there has been to Twitch as of late some competition will be better than nothing at all
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On June 13 2015 03:49 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
This will have an HTML5 player, a limit of 1080p60fps @9Mbps, transcodes available for everyone.
The only issues so far I've seen are that general browsing of streams and usability is lower than Twitch. But frankly, that's the easy part. YouTube clearly has the proper distribution network and the HTML5 player makes...such a huge goddamn difference.
I'm just curious about copyright issues, always the problem with youtube in germany
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On June 13 2015 03:50 MIDO17 wrote:
OHH MY GOD!!!! Been waiting this for years. My prays are heard. Finnaly. #FuckLaggyTwitch
If twitch is laggy just use livestreamer zero lags source all day everyday can't even remember the last time I used the twitch site.
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On June 13 2015 03:51 Vallelol wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 03:49 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
This will have an HTML5 player, a limit of 1080p60fps @9Mbps, transcodes available for everyone.
The only issues so far I've seen are that general browsing of streams and usability is lower than Twitch. But frankly, that's the easy part. YouTube clearly has the proper distribution network and the HTML5 player makes...such a huge goddamn difference. I'm just curious about copyright issues, always the problem with youtube in germany
They will have to handle that on a region by region basis. They can't fix everything world wide. Though Twitch doesn't seem to have any problem for you folks, right?
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On June 13 2015 03:51 Vallelol wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 03:49 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
This will have an HTML5 player, a limit of 1080p60fps @9Mbps, transcodes available for everyone.
The only issues so far I've seen are that general browsing of streams and usability is lower than Twitch. But frankly, that's the easy part. YouTube clearly has the proper distribution network and the HTML5 player makes...such a huge goddamn difference. I'm just curious about copyright issues, always the problem with youtube in germany
This will probably be the biggest issue.
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On June 13 2015 03:52 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 03:51 Vallelol wrote:On June 13 2015 03:49 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
This will have an HTML5 player, a limit of 1080p60fps @9Mbps, transcodes available for everyone.
The only issues so far I've seen are that general browsing of streams and usability is lower than Twitch. But frankly, that's the easy part. YouTube clearly has the proper distribution network and the HTML5 player makes...such a huge goddamn difference. I'm just curious about copyright issues, always the problem with youtube in germany They will have to handle that on a region by region basis. They can't fix everything world wide. Though Twitch doesn't seem to have any problem for you folks, right?
Can't wait for "This stream isn't available in your country" *Insert emote*
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On June 13 2015 03:45 Musicus wrote:
Is this even a thing in Germany?
It's blocked here (by Google itself) as they would have to get licenses for every channel. There's an interesting article about that in one of the most recent issues of c't. Basically every broadcaster who has a linear internet/tv/radio submission and a fixed schedule has to get one of those licenses. The first point is pretty clear, the second one is very arguable, but apparently YouTube/Google wants to be better safe than sorry 
Funny thing is that you can broadcast on YT from Germany, just not watch it^^
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On June 13 2015 03:43 IntoTheheart wrote:Will they showcase this off at E3? 
Twitch is the exclusive streaming provider for E3, so no
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Just from the LCS alone, Youtube has always been the absolutely superior platform to watch it on. I don't see myself spending near as much time on Twitch if some of the big SC2, LoL, DotA, and CS:GO organizations swap over.
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On June 13 2015 03:52 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 03:51 Vallelol wrote:On June 13 2015 03:49 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
This will have an HTML5 player, a limit of 1080p60fps @9Mbps, transcodes available for everyone.
The only issues so far I've seen are that general browsing of streams and usability is lower than Twitch. But frankly, that's the easy part. YouTube clearly has the proper distribution network and the HTML5 player makes...such a huge goddamn difference. I'm just curious about copyright issues, always the problem with youtube in germany They will have to handle that on a region by region basis. They can't fix everything world wide. Though Twitch doesn't seem to have any problem for you folks, right?
Twitch has the problem with VoDs now, they are muted when copyrighted music was playing, but I think this is the same for every country.
I think they just can't monitor livestreams with their software yet OR authorities haven't recognized twitch as a major copyright issue yet
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On June 13 2015 03:54 Bizaraciel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 03:52 Plansix wrote:On June 13 2015 03:51 Vallelol wrote:On June 13 2015 03:49 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
This will have an HTML5 player, a limit of 1080p60fps @9Mbps, transcodes available for everyone.
The only issues so far I've seen are that general browsing of streams and usability is lower than Twitch. But frankly, that's the easy part. YouTube clearly has the proper distribution network and the HTML5 player makes...such a huge goddamn difference. I'm just curious about copyright issues, always the problem with youtube in germany They will have to handle that on a region by region basis. They can't fix everything world wide. Though Twitch doesn't seem to have any problem for you folks, right? Can't wait for "This stream isn't available in your country" *Insert emote*
I am sure Youtube would stream to you if they could. Its that whole breaking the law thing that might be holding them back.
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That's actually a great point. YouTube is notoriously bad at handling IP and copyright disputes, particularly in gaming. How this affects that development promises to be interesting.
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On June 13 2015 03:56 Vallelol wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 03:52 Plansix wrote:On June 13 2015 03:51 Vallelol wrote:On June 13 2015 03:49 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
This will have an HTML5 player, a limit of 1080p60fps @9Mbps, transcodes available for everyone.
The only issues so far I've seen are that general browsing of streams and usability is lower than Twitch. But frankly, that's the easy part. YouTube clearly has the proper distribution network and the HTML5 player makes...such a huge goddamn difference. I'm just curious about copyright issues, always the problem with youtube in germany They will have to handle that on a region by region basis. They can't fix everything world wide. Though Twitch doesn't seem to have any problem for you folks, right? Twitch has the problem with VoDs now, they are muted when copyrighted music was playing, but I think this is the same for every country. I think they just can't monitor livestreams with their software yet OR authorities haven't recognized twitch as a major copyright issue yet
I think that music labels might not care about people live streaming a song, since its only once and the streamer is a fan of the music. Its when people start recording it they get pissy.
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On June 13 2015 03:51 WindWolf wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 03:46 Grettin wrote:On June 13 2015 03:40 WindWolf wrote:
If this has HTML5, YTG has imminently won it for me. With how unstable Flash has been compared to HTML5, I would choose a HTML5 service all days of the week
Not to mentioned that I personally feel that Twitch hasn't improved that much in quite a while... HTML5 won't help if there's not anything worthwhile to watch (except tournaments). I do agree though. I personally don't expect anything major out of this just yet. There will certainly be some growing pains. But with how little improvement there has been to Twitch as of late some competition will be better than nothing at all
Of course and as i said, tournament wise its amazing as I am sure many organizers will put their streams there as well. But general gaming content wise, i don't see any medium or big Twitch streamer changing over. What i read from twitter about the possible "incentives" in general to stream there, it's most likely not worth it.
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On June 13 2015 03:46 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 03:45 SkrollK wrote:
Here they come.
Death of Twitch inc.
Honestly, to me, YT will just crush Twitch. Twitch works very poorly when you got a low connection, YT to the contrary just works well...
The only important data to me will be the ads remuneration figure on YT. If it's bigger on YT, then it's just instant death to Twitch. The other way around, Twitch might still have a chance. Twitch is owned by Amazon, so that won't happen. This is two of the largest tech companies in the US going toe to toe in the same market. Neither will wipe the other one out.
Does Twitch uses Amazons servers ? I don't think so.
Does YT Gaming uses YT servers ? I do think so.
To me, Twitch is to laggy to watch when i'm not at home.
For exemple, right where I am, I can't watch LCS EU on ogmaing in more than 240p. Else I lag.
On YT, I'm just 720p while surfing...
So, I go on YT. If enought of the big streams steps forward and go YT as well, then for me Twitch is basically over.
(I'm not saying that my case is the case of everyone there. Just stating for me  )
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On June 13 2015 03:48 amazingxkcd wrote:
hahaha well played twitch well played
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On June 13 2015 03:59 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2015 03:51 WindWolf wrote:On June 13 2015 03:46 Grettin wrote:On June 13 2015 03:40 WindWolf wrote:
If this has HTML5, YTG has imminently won it for me. With how unstable Flash has been compared to HTML5, I would choose a HTML5 service all days of the week
Not to mentioned that I personally feel that Twitch hasn't improved that much in quite a while... HTML5 won't help if there's not anything worthwhile to watch (except tournaments). I do agree though. I personally don't expect anything major out of this just yet. There will certainly be some growing pains. But with how little improvement there has been to Twitch as of late some competition will be better than nothing at all Of course and as i said, tournament wise its amazing as I am sure many organizers will put their streams there as well. But as a general gaming content wise, i don't see any medium or big Twitch streamer changing over. What i read from twitter about the possible "incentives" in general to stream there, it's not worth it.
Unless Google acts like a TV network and offers big streamers money to switch. Or bit streamers start offering. Thats now network TV works, the stations bid on the content and put it up. Netfilx out bid all the networks for House of Cards.
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On June 13 2015 04:00 SkrollK wrote:(I'm not saying that my case is the case of everyone there. Just stating for me )
While Twitch has slowly getting better with lag from my experience, I still have issues.
Meanwhile YouTube 1440p or 1080p60 runs flawlessly for me
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