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rckY
Germany116 Posts
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Sejanus
Lithuania550 Posts
On June 14 2015 19:03 litlnoobs wrote: It isn't enjoyable to most people most of the time. That's something "esports" will need to understand if they want to be anything more than a niche. I wouldn't be surprised if they stayed even more of a niche with a normal chat. Dumb people are not uncommon. Like, umm, I am sure Raynad and the likes allow their text to speach and retarded chat not because they personally enjoy it. Only because it's profitable. Depends on target audience probably. Of course if we speak niche as opposed to basketball level mainstream, retarded chats must go. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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Lucumo
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On June 14 2015 22:39 Skynx wrote: I might be dumb here but doesnt Google own both twitch and youtube? Why would they want to introduce a second streaming platform when they already have one? Amazon owns Twitch. | ||
nimdil
Poland3751 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On June 14 2015 23:27 nimdil wrote: It's funny that announcement page formats incorrectly in my FF Yup mine too | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On June 14 2015 19:07 Fi0na wrote: so the few times I've watched League of Legends events, I sometimes watched them on Youtube stream Advantages of youtube: + instead of not seeing anything due to insufficient bandwidth/buffering, it automatically lowers the quality until the buffering has cought up for better quality + you used to be able to go back in time if you missed something or to rewatch it, just like a VOD Disadvantages: - Chat - the feature mentioned above to go back in time and not just watch live does not work for me anymore for quite some time now Still works fine for me, have you tried alternative browsers? | ||
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Deleted User 135096
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This is why Cross-browser testing is good! Also, why webkit sucks. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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SkrollK
France580 Posts
On June 14 2015 09:33 Roggay wrote: He asked if we are trolling. No we are not. I do enjoy the chat. Yes the chat can be pretty stupid at time, but it does not mean that it is not enjoyable most of the time. Yep sorry, I really was wondering if someone was actually enjoying tchats in general, but that's quite dumb since there are a lot of people using it, so I guess I was the stupid one there  Nonetheless, I can't understand why people wouldn't jump on a better stream plateform just 'cause of the tchat. But that's only my opinion there. To me, YT is soooooo much more enjoyable that I'll glady let Twitch down in the abyss for YT anytime I'll be able to. Seems like some other people share this thought, so, I guess, time and company decisions will decide EDIT : On June 15 2015 04:59 opisska wrote: If you enjoy twitch chat and the "community" and other similarly incomprehensible things, be my guest and keep it. Just give us, who want to see the actual content, a reliably working solution for getting the data to our computers. If only one company can do, it is Google, with its huge infrastructure. I couldn't care less if all the private streamers stay on Twitch, but I would really appreciate a non-Twitch stream for all significant tournaments. opisska just said it all. Totally agree. | ||
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Adept
United States472 Posts
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
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Adept
United States472 Posts
On June 15 2015 08:27 Baarn wrote: The thing about youtube is that when someone accidentally plays a copyrights song they will get their channel shutdown. So it's not all greener pastures. Twitch will still be used more for streaming than youtube. How do you know YTG wont have the same thing as Twitch where you can play copyrighted songs live and it'll just mute the VoDs where the song was played? And people just generally avoid copyrighted songs now anyway, even on Twitch, so that the VoDs aren't muted. I don't think it's too much of an issue, really! Especially with things like Monstercat getting pretty huge now. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On June 15 2015 08:42 Adept wrote: How do you know YTG wont have the same thing as Twitch where you can play copyrighted songs live and it'll just mute the VoDs where the song was played? And people just generally avoid copyrighted songs now anyway, even on Twitch, so that the VoDs aren't muted. I don't think it's too much of an issue, really! Especially with things like Monstercat getting pretty huge now. Players of stuff like rhythm games had to move away from Twitch to other streaming services because of hours of gameplay being muted (you can't have a music+rhythm game without audio), youtube is even more strict | ||
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Adept
United States472 Posts
On June 15 2015 08:50 Cyro wrote: Players of stuff like rhythm games had to move away from Twitch to other streaming services because of hours of gameplay being muted (you can't have a music+rhythm game without audio), youtube is even more strict Huh, okay I hadn't actually thought about games like that. That does kinda suck for games like that I guess, quite a bit of limiting factor to only be able to play copyright-free music. But then with how huge YouTube is I don't think they really could do something like that. Really, unless the whole copyright system in general changes dramatically, streams like that with copyrighted songs will pretty much always have to be stuck in smaller streaming services that are less strict about enforcing that. | ||
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Baarn
United States2702 Posts
On June 15 2015 08:56 Adept wrote: Huh, okay I hadn't actually thought about games like that. That does kinda suck for games like that I guess, quite a bit of limiting factor to only be able to play copyright-free music. But then with how huge YouTube is I don't think they really could do something like that. Really, unless the whole copyright system in general changes dramatically, streams like that with copyrighted songs will pretty much always have to be stuck in smaller streaming services that are less strict about enforcing that. They have copyright bots that monitor the entire site. There is little human interaction with it and it autoreports you. You must be daft if you think they won't be in YTG channels. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
quite a bit of limiting factor to only be able to play copyright-free music Basically any music at all, since the vast majority of beatmaps are either regular music of some kind without artist permission OR even music that is explicitly made for the game, but you don't own the game and you're streaming/recording it so you'll get muted. That's the equivalent of twitch muting a dota 2 tournament because it has dota 2 music in it and it's not Valve's channel - and it actually happens quite a lot. stuff with 0 form of copyright at all is very rare. Most of the free stuff from newgrounds even has basic copyrights. | ||
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Adept
United States472 Posts
On June 15 2015 09:21 Baarn wrote: They have copyright bots that monitor the entire site. There is little human interaction with it and it autoreports you. You must be daft if you think they won't be in YTG channels. Oh yeah no I'm SURE they'll have copyright stuff. I'm just saying I don't know whether or not it'll affect anything live. It's one thing to analyze a complete video that is uploaded for any of the things stored in the copyright database, but doing that live is something else entirely. I think it'll be more like Twitch's automated copyright management, where it scans the VoD once the stream is completed and mutes the copyrighted material, or something similar. On June 15 2015 09:31 Cyro wrote: Basically any music at all, since the vast majority of beatmaps are either regular music of some kind without artist permission OR even music that is explicitly made for the game, but you don't own the game and you're streaming/recording it so you'll get muted. That's the equivalent of twitch muting a dota 2 tournament because it has dota 2 music in it and it's not Valve's channel - and it actually happens quite a lot. stuff with 0 form of copyright at all is very rare. Most of the free stuff from newgrounds even has basic copyrights. And yeah what I was talking about there was music that the author has given permission that they're okay with people using for stuff like that. But regardless, that still sucks, not sure what there is to do about that though with copyright law the way it is :\ | ||
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nimdil
Poland3751 Posts
On June 15 2015 09:31 Cyro wrote: Basically any music at all, since the vast majority of beatmaps are either regular music of some kind without artist permission OR even music that is explicitly made for the game, but you don't own the game and you're streaming/recording it so you'll get muted. That's the equivalent of twitch muting a dota 2 tournament because it has dota 2 music in it and it's not Valve's channel - and it actually happens quite a lot. stuff with 0 form of copyright at all is very rare. Most of the free stuff from newgrounds even has basic copyrights. You don't need to have 0 form of copyright. Music released with Creative Commons (which I guess requires it to not have -NC suffix as streaming of any kind is essentially commercial) would be fine. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On June 15 2015 10:00 nimdil wrote: You don't need to have 0 form of copyright. Music released with Creative Commons (which I guess requires it to not have -NC suffix as streaming of any kind is essentially commercial) would be fine. don't worry the bot makes sure you can't use 99% of the music under licence that would allow you to use it. Even your own music could make you get rekted by the bot. | ||
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