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Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 13:57:02
June 15 2015 13:55 GMT
#161
The bot works while you are live streaming also.

Currently if you play CR music while live streaming on YT, YT wont put you in the "live streaming" section on their site, so you basically become a ghost.

I have streamed games with their in-game music and it is totally fine, no restriction on the video.

Twitch has been rolling the dice too long with their lack of controlling the bullshit that goes on there site and I expect to see lawsuit to streamer or to twitch itself(for not enforcing enough) soon. They're getting too big.

I really hope YTG dents Twitch alot. Twitch takes so much money from potential broadcast earning its pretty nasty. I mean the funniest thing on twitch I have seen is subscriptions. They tell you "This directly supports the broadcaster" but in reality twitch takes 50%! A true joke.

I have already made the switch few months ago and loving YT. Just because I have ~50-100 viewers on YT live doesnt mean they wont give me front-page(which I get alot now) Which I think alot of low-medium streamers on twitch will like since getting to the "front page" reallly boosts your success.

Honestly all they need to do is fix chat(easier to do emotes etc) and YT will be in the game so easy. And that is the easiest part. They already have the name, viewerbase, and marketshare to do what they like. The payout on YT is way higher than twitch will ever be able to afford.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
June 15 2015 19:58 GMT
#162
You know whats interesting? both youtube and twitch have about the same number of viwers on their e3 stream, around 200k.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Adept
Profile Joined December 2009
United States472 Posts
June 15 2015 22:21 GMT
#163
I have no idea if it was intentional but the host guy for the YouTube stream basically fired some shots at Twitch with the outage that happened, saying that they'll have Ubisoft's presentation on the "most RELIABLE high quality stream around," haha.
"HSC casting is essentially an LR thread read aloud." -ThomasjServo
TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 01:29:39
June 16 2015 01:27 GMT
#164
On June 15 2015 22:55 Eggi wrote:
I really hope YTG dents Twitch alot. Twitch takes so much money from potential broadcast earning its pretty nasty. I mean the funniest thing on twitch I have seen is subscriptions. They tell you "This directly supports the broadcaster" but in reality twitch takes 50%! A true joke.

I have already made the switch few months ago and loving YT. Just because I have ~50-100 viewers on YT live doesnt mean they wont give me front-page(which I get alot now) Which I think alot of low-medium streamers on twitch will like since getting to the "front page" reallly boosts your success.

Of course you hope it would happen, since your twitch channel is closed for viewbotting.
---
Again I'd like to remind people how google has failed with google+. They could drop 10 times more money into it and people still wouldn't use it, because why if there's already facebook and twitter.

We'll see if it happens with that new youtube service, but I doubt anyone with a good viewbase would want to switch to youtube. And even if someone does... Switches are always painful and hurt your viewership a lot. I remember when own3d got shut down and some streamers had to switch to twitch, even though own3d was much smaller, they still struggled to get same numbers for a long time. Some didn't at all, since their niche already was taken by other streamers.

Or some "paid" changes, like Artosis switched from twitch to azubu. 1000-1500 viewers (even more if there were no big HS streamers on during that time) into like 200, even though azubu provides decent quality streams unlike some hitbox or viagame.

But if twitch will do some upgrading/changing/etc because they think they finally got some real competition, I'll be happy, so at the end, it's all good for us, viewers and hopefully streamers too.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3775 Posts
June 16 2015 09:21 GMT
#165
On June 15 2015 22:20 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2015 10:00 nimdil wrote:
On June 15 2015 09:31 Cyro wrote:
quite a bit of limiting factor to only be able to play copyright-free music


Basically any music at all, since the vast majority of beatmaps are either regular music of some kind without artist permission

OR even

music that is explicitly made for the game, but you don't own the game and you're streaming/recording it so you'll get muted.

That's the equivalent of twitch muting a dota 2 tournament because it has dota 2 music in it and it's not Valve's channel - and it actually happens quite a lot.

stuff with 0 form of copyright at all is very rare. Most of the free stuff from newgrounds even has basic copyrights.

You don't need to have 0 form of copyright. Music released with Creative Commons (which I guess requires it to not have -NC suffix as streaming of any kind is essentially commercial) would be fine.


don't worry the bot makes sure you can't use 99% of the music under licence that would allow you to use it. Even your own music could make you get rekted by the bot.

My fiance from time to time publushes videos with her dog with music licensed under CC and so far there were no problems. Then again maybe the visibility is too low for YT to bother.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
June 16 2015 09:39 GMT
#166
On June 16 2015 18:21 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2015 22:20 sAsImre wrote:
On June 15 2015 10:00 nimdil wrote:
On June 15 2015 09:31 Cyro wrote:
quite a bit of limiting factor to only be able to play copyright-free music


Basically any music at all, since the vast majority of beatmaps are either regular music of some kind without artist permission

OR even

music that is explicitly made for the game, but you don't own the game and you're streaming/recording it so you'll get muted.

That's the equivalent of twitch muting a dota 2 tournament because it has dota 2 music in it and it's not Valve's channel - and it actually happens quite a lot.

stuff with 0 form of copyright at all is very rare. Most of the free stuff from newgrounds even has basic copyrights.

You don't need to have 0 form of copyright. Music released with Creative Commons (which I guess requires it to not have -NC suffix as streaming of any kind is essentially commercial) would be fine.


don't worry the bot makes sure you can't use 99% of the music under licence that would allow you to use it. Even your own music could make you get rekted by the bot.

My fiance from time to time publushes videos with her dog with music licensed under CC and so far there were no problems. Then again maybe the visibility is too low for YT to bother.


I was talking about the bot twitch uses. Incredibly annoying.
Zest fanboy.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
June 16 2015 10:23 GMT
#167
please dota pros, shift your stream to youtube.

can't stand twitch
Rillanon.au
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-16 11:47:51
June 16 2015 11:44 GMT
#168
Html5 > twitch crappy flash player.

On June 13 2015 16:50 FiWiFaKi wrote:
I don't like youtube, and how their ads work. It's insane that there are some ads I have to watch for 30 seconds without any way to postpone or cancel them. Has anyone never had to show a youtube video in a presentation or something?

So use some kind of ad blocker.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3775 Posts
June 16 2015 12:16 GMT
#169
On June 16 2015 18:39 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2015 18:21 nimdil wrote:
On June 15 2015 22:20 sAsImre wrote:
On June 15 2015 10:00 nimdil wrote:
On June 15 2015 09:31 Cyro wrote:
quite a bit of limiting factor to only be able to play copyright-free music


Basically any music at all, since the vast majority of beatmaps are either regular music of some kind without artist permission

OR even

music that is explicitly made for the game, but you don't own the game and you're streaming/recording it so you'll get muted.

That's the equivalent of twitch muting a dota 2 tournament because it has dota 2 music in it and it's not Valve's channel - and it actually happens quite a lot.

stuff with 0 form of copyright at all is very rare. Most of the free stuff from newgrounds even has basic copyrights.

You don't need to have 0 form of copyright. Music released with Creative Commons (which I guess requires it to not have -NC suffix as streaming of any kind is essentially commercial) would be fine.


don't worry the bot makes sure you can't use 99% of the music under licence that would allow you to use it. Even your own music could make you get rekted by the bot.

My fiance from time to time publushes videos with her dog with music licensed under CC and so far there were no problems. Then again maybe the visibility is too low for YT to bother.


I was talking about the bot twitch uses. Incredibly annoying.


OK. Missed that.
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
June 16 2015 12:23 GMT
#170
On June 16 2015 10:27 TJ31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2015 22:55 Eggi wrote:
I really hope YTG dents Twitch alot. Twitch takes so much money from potential broadcast earning its pretty nasty. I mean the funniest thing on twitch I have seen is subscriptions. They tell you "This directly supports the broadcaster" but in reality twitch takes 50%! A true joke.

I have already made the switch few months ago and loving YT. Just because I have ~50-100 viewers on YT live doesnt mean they wont give me front-page(which I get alot now) Which I think alot of low-medium streamers on twitch will like since getting to the "front page" reallly boosts your success.

Of course you hope it would happen, since your twitch channel is closed for viewbotting.
---
Again I'd like to remind people how google has failed with google+. They could drop 10 times more money into it and people still wouldn't use it, because why if there's already facebook and twitter.

We'll see if it happens with that new youtube service, but I doubt anyone with a good viewbase would want to switch to youtube. And even if someone does... Switches are always painful and hurt your viewership a lot. I remember when own3d got shut down and some streamers had to switch to twitch, even though own3d was much smaller, they still struggled to get same numbers for a long time. Some didn't at all, since their niche already was taken by other streamers.

Or some "paid" changes, like Artosis switched from twitch to azubu. 1000-1500 viewers (even more if there were no big HS streamers on during that time) into like 200, even though azubu provides decent quality streams unlike some hitbox or viagame.

But if twitch will do some upgrading/changing/etc because they think they finally got some real competition, I'll be happy, so at the end, it's all good for us, viewers and hopefully streamers too.


Actually for excessive drinking. I'll forward you the email if you want, for $50 bet if you want to put the money where your mouth is
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-22 23:35:37
June 22 2015 23:35 GMT
#171
Thought you may be interested to see how the Android app (I don't expect the ios app to be much different), and the desktop version of youtube gaming look in beta:



So basically, it looks that this is so much more than twitch, its everything gaming.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
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