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Feel free to discuss your opinions on the health benefits of Quest products, but derailing this thread with "ROFL AMERICA IS UNHEALTHY" or similar crap is a ban
OveRtheStarS
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada69 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-13 10:37:39
February 13 2015 10:36 GMT
#81
So this is a health food initiative endorsed by a team that hires young adults to sit and practice in front of a computer for hours a day to be competitive at a sport that again requires you to sit in front of a monitor? I entirely understand that most teams and individuals have some sort of physical activity outside of the game as a means to increase mental function, but I think eSports at its core is a relatively unhealthy lifestyle.

I also can't take any nutritional bar seriously that seems to have an oreo on the wrapper.
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Brained
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany58 Posts
February 13 2015 10:40 GMT
#82
am waiting for Chiquita to be the next Sponsor in Line
Hell, it´s about time
[BSP]Kain
Profile Joined May 2014
119 Posts
February 13 2015 11:25 GMT
#83
I find this highly unethical. :/ Advertising healthy diet with such product seems like trying to sell snake oil.

I'm really disappointment that TL went for this, I hoped for more conscious approach to so vital issues. Health of the children is something that you should do with responsibility for your actions.

Good that you are donating money to the pro-health NGO though.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-13 11:51:52
February 13 2015 11:49 GMT
#84
I understand that TeamLiquid is growing, but does that really necessitate becoming slaves to sponsors as well? This is akin to Ferrero claiming that their Nuttela chocolate paste is an essential part of a healthy breakfast.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23489 Posts
February 13 2015 12:23 GMT
#85
On February 13 2015 20:49 maartendq wrote:
I understand that TeamLiquid is growing, but does that really necessitate becoming slaves to sponsors as well? This is akin to Ferrero claiming that their Nuttela chocolate paste is an essential part of a healthy breakfast.


No, it's actually nothing like that at all.
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Gathorisx
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
United Kingdom27 Posts
February 13 2015 12:27 GMT
#86
On February 13 2015 20:49 maartendq wrote:
I understand that TeamLiquid is growing, but does that really necessitate becoming slaves to sponsors as well? This is akin to Ferrero claiming that their Nuttela chocolate paste is an essential part of a healthy breakfast.


Not all quest bars are unhealthy, the ones you get with the promotion however , besides the money isn't going to having kids only eat quest bars, its going towards the kids having a healthy lifestyle be that healthy eating and exercise in school or knowing what foods are good and bad.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-13 12:45:11
February 13 2015 12:40 GMT
#87
On February 13 2015 03:19 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 03:12 aXa wrote:
On February 13 2015 03:01 TheoMikkelsen wrote:
I think it is supposed to be understood that for every purchase of a t-shirt, money is donated to organisation and parties helping children with food. The specific example is "Action for Healthy Kids." So as far as I can see, the protein bars are not a part of the campaign.

Correct me if I am wrong.

I do not see reason to talk about the bars if the good-willing-intention is money donation to kids in need for food or to change eating habits for a better and more healthy lifestyle.


Team Liquid and Quest Gaming have joined forces for a limited edition TL x Quest T-Shirt in order to support Action For Healthy Kids. Each tee will even come with 2 free Quest Bars.


I for one approve of this campaign to get kids to start power lifting, to do oats, GOMAD, squats, and to say no to the smith machine.

What's wrong with it?

hello fellow /fit/izen
But yeah, i'm not sure thats very healthy. I mean its healthier than your standard chocolate bar but still..
I think people should be encouraged to not eat snacks/fast food instead of selling 'healthy' snacks. You need to break the habit.
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[BSP]Kain
Profile Joined May 2014
119 Posts
February 13 2015 12:47 GMT
#88
On February 13 2015 21:27 Gathorisx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 20:49 maartendq wrote:
I understand that TeamLiquid is growing, but does that really necessitate becoming slaves to sponsors as well? This is akin to Ferrero claiming that their Nuttela chocolate paste is an essential part of a healthy breakfast.


Not all quest bars are unhealthy, the ones you get with the promotion however , besides the money isn't going to having kids only eat quest bars, its going towards the kids having a healthy lifestyle be that healthy eating and exercise in school or knowing what foods are good and bad.


Yes, but the problem is branding. This post sums it up well:

On February 13 2015 03:26 Legio wrote:
Quest isn't listed on actionforhealthykids.org as a sponsor or a core supporter. Basically this is a branding campaign where Quest takes its OREO and cream cookies and try to associate them with the worth "healthy" and "kids" in peoples minds.

Quest also sells Cheddar and Sourcream "protein" chips on their website. No doubt another healthy option for kids.

Gathorisx
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
United Kingdom27 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-13 13:26:02
February 13 2015 13:24 GMT
#89
On February 13 2015 21:47 [BSP]Kain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 21:27 Gathorisx wrote:
On February 13 2015 20:49 maartendq wrote:
I understand that TeamLiquid is growing, but does that really necessitate becoming slaves to sponsors as well? This is akin to Ferrero claiming that their Nuttela chocolate paste is an essential part of a healthy breakfast.


Not all quest bars are unhealthy, the ones you get with the promotion however , besides the money isn't going to having kids only eat quest bars, its going towards the kids having a healthy lifestyle be that healthy eating and exercise in school or knowing what foods are good and bad.


Yes, but the problem is branding. This post sums it up well:

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 03:26 Legio wrote:
Quest isn't listed on actionforhealthykids.org as a sponsor or a core supporter. Basically this is a branding campaign where Quest takes its OREO and cream cookies and try to associate them with the worth "healthy" and "kids" in peoples minds.

Quest also sells Cheddar and Sourcream "protein" chips on their website. No doubt another healthy option for kids.



I don't think the point is that quest bars or healthy or unhealthy but that they are using all the proceeds to support actionforhealthykids.org, if adults want to buy these bars to support kids so be it. I dont think they intend to blow all the proceeds on Quest bars for kids.

"100% of proceeds will be donated to Action For Healthy Kids, an organization that shares our mutual goals by helping schools across the US provide healthy foods, high quality health and physical education, and comprehensive physical activity to millions of students each year. "


they might not be partnered, but it doesn't matter since they are donating the proceedings.
DiamondTear
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland165 Posts
February 13 2015 14:55 GMT
#90
On February 13 2015 03:21 Musicus wrote:
Well it's not like the money will be used to deliver those bars to schools. Action for Healthy Kids will use the money for actual food like fruits and vegetables I think.


I perused their site and it seems that it's focused on exercise, not changing the dietary habbits of children. http://www.actionforhealthykids.org/what-we-do/success-stories/search/summary

This is not surprising because it's sponsored by companies making food: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_for_Healthy_Kids

It's a pretty well known that these companies try their best to get people focus on exercise, not what they are eating. This is a red herring as fighting obesity with exercise is a doomed prospect. There's just not enough time in a day for a kid to walk off all those calories.

The bars might actually be the best aspect of this campaign...
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 13 2015 14:56 GMT
#91
On February 13 2015 20:49 maartendq wrote:
I understand that TeamLiquid is growing, but does that really necessitate becoming slaves to sponsors as well? This is akin to Ferrero claiming that their Nuttela chocolate paste is an essential part of a healthy breakfast.

No it is not, read the OP again. It is akin to Ferrero donating the money they get from selling Nutella paste to an organization that promotes healthy diet and lifestyle. It has nothing to do with your comparison.
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
February 13 2015 15:18 GMT
#92
where do you guys get the idea that Action for Healthy Kids wants to give these bars to kids anyway? That's the company they are raising money for. weather you think the bars are good for you or not has to do with your diet and exercise but raising money to aid young health with preventative measures is a pretty good idea.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 13 2015 15:27 GMT
#93
On February 14 2015 00:18 ComaDose wrote:
where do you guys get the idea that Action for Healthy Kids wants to give these bars to kids anyway? That's the company they are raising money for. weather you think the bars are good for you or not has to do with your diet and exercise but raising money to aid young health with preventative measures is a pretty good idea.

Some people either don't know how to read or like to troll, that's all.
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-13 15:34:51
February 13 2015 15:33 GMT
#94
Isn't a big problem on USA how fast food and food with tons of sugar is what kids eat at their schools ? I remember seeing a documental about it, but it was like 10 years ago, so situation may had changed, but i remember the diet variety being really really scarce, where an apple was more expensive than a burguer.

I guess most of the cynical thinking goes into companies having anything to do with what the kids eat at their schools, like it have been happening for a lot of years. But i think this is a good thing.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
February 13 2015 16:13 GMT
#95
On February 14 2015 00:33 Godwrath wrote:
Isn't a big problem on USA how fast food and food with tons of sugar is what kids eat at their schools ? I remember seeing a documental about it, but it was like 10 years ago, so situation may had changed, but i remember the diet variety being really really scarce, where an apple was more expensive than a burguer.

I guess most of the cynical thinking goes into companies having anything to do with what the kids eat at their schools, like it have been happening for a lot of years. But i think this is a good thing.

There is quite a problem with that, not so easy to fix though. There have been many cases where the schools tried to offer healthier food, and the kids simply didn't eat it or wouldn't buy it. Healthy options do no good if those options are not chosen.
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ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-13 16:55:45
February 13 2015 16:51 GMT
#96
On February 13 2015 03:19 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
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On February 13 2015 02:41 Specialist wrote:
In america, everything that is not fast food is considered healthy lolol

America: where pizza is considered a vegetable

User was temp banned for this post.


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Technically you don't know what kinds of "healthy foods" they will be supplying to kids.

Hopefully the sh**ty fake bars are just for us adults :D "Better than McDonalds" doesn't exactly constitute healthy food.

Sounds like hearts are in the right place though. GL with helping kids, good guidance is essential.

At the end of the day, I think kids eat how their parents eat (for the most part). Do kids really have any other choice than to eat what their parents fill the house with? A 5 year old can't get up and do his/her own grocery run. So imo the problem starts and basically ends there. Kids eat one meal at school, so yea, make that better is a good start. But, the parents need the education more than anyone else.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10132 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-13 17:09:35
February 13 2015 17:07 GMT
#97
On February 14 2015 01:13 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 00:33 Godwrath wrote:
Isn't a big problem on USA how fast food and food with tons of sugar is what kids eat at their schools ? I remember seeing a documental about it, but it was like 10 years ago, so situation may had changed, but i remember the diet variety being really really scarce, where an apple was more expensive than a burguer.

I guess most of the cynical thinking goes into companies having anything to do with what the kids eat at their schools, like it have been happening for a lot of years. But i think this is a good thing.

There is quite a problem with that, not so easy to fix though. There have been many cases where the schools tried to offer healthier food, and the kids simply didn't eat it or wouldn't buy it. Healthy options do no good if those options are not chosen.

Kids shouldn't be able to choose between a healthy diet or crap food tho. They are kids afterall, if you make them choose between a burguer and vegetables they would just eat the burguer 10/10 times. I used to eat at school when i was a kid, and if you didn't eat, you wouldn't be able to go out with the other kids. Simple and elegant, because you had to chose to have some spare time to play with your friends, or be stupid and sit down there the whole break for lunch.

And of course, we didn't have any saying in what went into the menu. That was parents/school that scheduled the menus beforehand to have as many variety of cooked meals there.
MLG X Factor
Profile Joined December 2012
United States6 Posts
February 13 2015 17:07 GMT
#98
For everyone that is trashing the quality of Quest Bars, have you looked up the nutrition info of the bars? It is a low carb, high fiber protein bar. Fairly tasty too. But just because it is a cookie dough or cookies and cream flavor, it doesn't mean it has actual cookie dough or oreos in it. They also have dozens of other flavors.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-13 17:52:00
February 13 2015 17:51 GMT
#99
Well the bars aren't fresh food, but they are compositionally alright. But I mean they are trying to advertise their products. When you buy the shirt they don't send the bars to some fat kid and say "this is the healthiest thing you can eat!". They send the bars to you. So what is the complaint exactly?

Action for healthy kids is something separate, which does indeed seem to be a good cause.
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
February 13 2015 18:39 GMT
#100
I love the front side of the T-shirt - looks good for casual and exercise wear - but the back side seems overdone.
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