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Feel free to discuss your opinions on the health benefits of Quest products, but derailing this thread with "ROFL AMERICA IS UNHEALTHY" or similar crap is a ban
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 13 2015 23:30 GMT
#121
the shirt says gamerfood, not health food. now what?
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-14 01:27:05
February 14 2015 01:12 GMT
#122
I think we can all agree that the bars aren't technically "health food" that being said their healthier than a lot of junk food that would probably be filling the same role. It's better than junk food. if they actually said they were a health food that would be false advertising. it doesn't seem to me that their directly trying to equate the bars as health food merely trying to raise their brand recognition while supporting a good cause. I think most people would agree that protein bars aren't whats wrong with American diets at the moment. just my two cents.
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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
February 14 2015 02:37 GMT
#123
On February 14 2015 10:12 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
I think we can all agree that the bars aren't technically "health food" that being said their healthier than a lot of junk food that would probably be filling the same role. It's better than junk food. if they actually said they were a health food that would be false advertising. it doesn't seem to me that their directly trying to equate the bars as health food merely trying to raise their brand recognition while supporting a good cause. I think most people would agree that protein bars aren't whats wrong with American diets at the moment. just my two cents.


yeah it looks like junk food to get you to buy it, it's really just a protein bar, not that that's the epitome of healthy food or anything
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
February 14 2015 03:07 GMT
#124
On February 14 2015 11:37 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 10:12 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
I think we can all agree that the bars aren't technically "health food" that being said their healthier than a lot of junk food that would probably be filling the same role. It's better than junk food. if they actually said they were a health food that would be false advertising. it doesn't seem to me that their directly trying to equate the bars as health food merely trying to raise their brand recognition while supporting a good cause. I think most people would agree that protein bars aren't whats wrong with American diets at the moment. just my two cents.


yeah it looks like junk food to get you to buy it, it's really just a protein bar, not that that's the epitome of healthy food or anything
But it's a helluva lot better than what a lot of kids eat throughout the day a lot of the time.
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ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
February 14 2015 05:23 GMT
#125
On February 14 2015 08:30 dAPhREAk wrote:
the shirt says gamerfood, not health food. now what?


I think your missing the point here :D which is exactly my point.

It's not meant for the kids! It's meant for the people that sit in front of a computer playing video games for hours on end... um... Oh yeah... that's right... :/

Nj TL and Quest.

On February 14 2015 12:07 Thalandros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2015 11:37 Cheren wrote:
On February 14 2015 10:12 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
I think we can all agree that the bars aren't technically "health food" that being said their healthier than a lot of junk food that would probably be filling the same role. It's better than junk food. if they actually said they were a health food that would be false advertising. it doesn't seem to me that their directly trying to equate the bars as health food merely trying to raise their brand recognition while supporting a good cause. I think most people would agree that protein bars aren't whats wrong with American diets at the moment. just my two cents.


yeah it looks like junk food to get you to buy it, it's really just a protein bar, not that that's the epitome of healthy food or anything
But it's a helluva lot better than what a lot of kids eat throughout the day a lot of the time.


#Gamerwhileyoursittingonyourassatthecomputerstuffyourfacewiththiscandybarohyeahweaddedsomeproteintoitandcalleditfood

#IT'SBETTTERTHANMCDONALDS (redirects you to the snickers homepage).
AKnopf
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany259 Posts
February 14 2015 12:11 GMT
#126
Have you ever tried to get a kid to eat its vegetables? Just saying "eat it. its healthy" wont do the job.

And I believe that is the angle Quest is coming from. If candy bars are unhealthy and kids eat them a lot but they also do not want to eat the healthy stuff, then you need an alternative that's accepted by kids (maybe even when mommy does not watch them).

I also believe that this kind of PR is misleading and tries to convince people that Quest candy bars a actually healthy when they are not. But I also believe it's an unfortunate PR for a good thing that makes sense and tries to help people.

So let's not freak out about a donation campaign that's actually meaningful and relevant to fans of electronic sports.
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SkullEST
Profile Joined July 2010
Estonia32 Posts
February 15 2015 02:31 GMT
#127
carb the fuck up lads and ull be healthy as fk, ive been vegan now 2 months feel better than ever, just eat high carb LOW FAT and u will be winner!
DejaVu119
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States131 Posts
February 15 2015 04:44 GMT
#128
Just look at the nutrition facts... Pretty much every bar is 33% or more fat... That is NOT HEALTHY. Especially if you are trying to push something as good for kids. This isn't helpful; it's a ploy for good PR and they hope no one looks closely at the product.

http://www.tigerfitness.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/11.jpg
http://munchercruncher.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Screen-shot-2013-05-31-at-3.28.11-PM.png
http://www.canadianprotein.com/assets/images/nutritionalprofilelabels/quest-bar-cookies-and-cream-protein-bars.jpg

The fat content is rather similar to Oreos.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT_chXWNlc3aXG2pFuFZIj4Ah7yD1aKW-OUgV1YYU8iKl4q63XR

Eat what you want or actually try to eat healthy; this money grab PR move is sad.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23489 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-15 05:24:57
February 15 2015 05:09 GMT
#129
On February 15 2015 13:44 DejaVu119 wrote:
Just look at the nutrition facts... Pretty much every bar is 33% or more fat... That is NOT HEALTHY. Especially if you are trying to push something as good for kids. This isn't helpful; it's a ploy for good PR and they hope no one looks closely at the product.

http://www.tigerfitness.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/11.jpg
http://munchercruncher.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Screen-shot-2013-05-31-at-3.28.11-PM.png
http://www.canadianprotein.com/assets/images/nutritionalprofilelabels/quest-bar-cookies-and-cream-protein-bars.jpg

The fat content is rather similar to Oreos.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT_chXWNlc3aXG2pFuFZIj4Ah7yD1aKW-OUgV1YYU8iKl4q63XR

Eat what you want or actually try to eat healthy; this money grab PR move is sad.



Yeah because everyone eats 3 Oreos and calls it quits lol. Also less saturated fat matters.

I don't who people think is getting fooled into thinking protein bars should be given to all kids as snacks or whatever but if supporting a org that helps kids be healthier 'tricks' them into believing that, then they are probably on the way to the bank to pick up their inheritance from a Nigerian Prince too.

Quest Nutrition might not be right about everything they think about health but they are doing more to help get people healthy than anyone complaining about them probably is.

Other than supporting a child fitness org (Childhood obesity is something they have spoken out about for a while without pitching their product as 'the solution') I don't see them pitching to kids. The stuff on their site is geared way more towards living healthy lifestyles and education and I don't think I saw anything on their site pitching their products as something kids like or should want.

Their association with TL seems to go back a while so maybe they should just say something themselves at this point?

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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 15 2015 07:36 GMT
#130
Please people stop going the "fat = bad" route because that's straight up bullshit. Fat is an essential component for our body and we should eat some ; not in excess obviously. Besides, not all fat are equals, some are more harmful than others.
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ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
February 15 2015 10:15 GMT
#131
On February 15 2015 16:36 OtherWorld wrote:
Please people stop going the "fat = bad" route because that's straight up bullshit. Fat is an essential component for our body and we should eat some ; not in excess obviously. Besides, not all fat are equals, some are more harmful than others.

While they're at it get rid of this notion of healthy foods. There are healthy people and healthy diets but "healthy foods" are a misnomer.
dr0pship
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada520 Posts
February 16 2015 01:41 GMT
#132
Cookies and Cream candy bar... that sounds healthy!!!

Next should give them doughnuts...some even have fruit filling! Thats healthy, right?
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
February 16 2015 03:59 GMT
#133
Calling something processed healthy is always a lie. Google it!

(If this is bannable go ahead)
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 16 2015 06:19 GMT
#134
On February 15 2015 19:15 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2015 16:36 OtherWorld wrote:
Please people stop going the "fat = bad" route because that's straight up bullshit. Fat is an essential component for our body and we should eat some ; not in excess obviously. Besides, not all fat are equals, some are more harmful than others.

While they're at it get rid of this notion of healthy foods. There are healthy people and healthy diets but "healthy foods" are a misnomer.

Very true.
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Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
February 16 2015 08:52 GMT
#135
On February 16 2015 10:41 9heart wrote:
Cookies and Cream candy bar... that sounds healthy!!!

Next should give them doughnuts...some even have fruit filling! Thats healthy, right?

Intelligent post. You have a lot of knowledge!!

On February 16 2015 12:59 Mozdk wrote:
Calling something processed healthy is always a lie. Google it!

(If this is bannable go ahead)

And so we're all going to die at age 45. Processed foods, the name of all existence...


Eeesh, how to take this crowd seriously?
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mostevil
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom611 Posts
February 16 2015 11:38 GMT
#136
Coca cola sponsors the Olympic games I don't think this is worth damaging our calm about. As people have said unused protein goes straight through anyway. Even fats retain less than unburned sugars. It'll cost a small fortune to get fat on these things.
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5296 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 11:58:02
February 16 2015 11:57 GMT
#137
protein abuse can damage kidneys and can cause liver to build up ammonia in the blood.

oh, and Coca Cola doesn't claim it helps olympians stay healthy.
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 16 2015 12:27 GMT
#138
On February 16 2015 20:57 xM(Z wrote:
protein abuse can damage kidneys and can cause liver to build up ammonia in the blood.

oh, and Coca Cola doesn't claim it helps olympians stay healthy.

not in individuals with healthy kidneys, no.
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mostevil
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom611 Posts
February 16 2015 14:13 GMT
#139
On February 16 2015 20:57 xM(Z wrote:
protein abuse can damage kidneys and can cause liver to build up ammonia in the blood.

oh, and Coca Cola doesn't claim it helps olympians stay healthy.

They're raising money for helping children stay healthy, not force feeding them protein bars to achieve that end. The claim is identical. If that makes CocaCola okay then this is fine, unless its a brands I like vs brands I don't type discussion.

It's going to take a serious amount of protein bars to break a healthy body. Shit oxygen is toxic if we're going down that silly road.
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5296 Posts
February 16 2015 15:07 GMT
#140
On February 16 2015 21:27 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2015 20:57 xM(Z wrote:
protein abuse can damage kidneys and can cause liver to build up ammonia in the blood.

oh, and Coca Cola doesn't claim it helps olympians stay healthy.

not in individuals with healthy kidneys, no.

i'd say science in this case is incomplete/debatable at best:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3602135/
Results
Baseline cystatin C-based eGFR was 92.0±16.3 (SD) mL/min/1.73 m2. Compared with the carbohydrate and unsaturated fat diets, the protein diet increased cystatin C-based eGFR by ~4 mL/min/1.73 m2 (P < 0.001). The effects of the protein diet on kidney function were independent of changes in blood pressure. There was no significant difference between the carbohydrate and unsaturated fat diets.
Conclusions
A healthy diet rich in protein increased eGFR. Whether long-term consumption of a high-protein diet leads to kidney disease is uncertain.

anyway, from an objective pov, this is false/wrong advertising. the fact that capitalism condones/tolerates/expects/ it, is screwed up to begin with.
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