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Feel free to discuss your opinions on the health benefits of Quest products, but derailing this thread with "ROFL AMERICA IS UNHEALTHY" or similar crap is a ban
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
February 12 2015 19:38 GMT
#41
On February 13 2015 04:33 ahw wrote:
for anyone who doesnt know, quest bars are more or less the only protein bars without a ton of sugar. they have a line without sucralose as well if that stuff bugs you, for whatever reason.

they are popular with people who follow low carbohydrate diets, or for anyone who is sensitive to that kind of thing.

I guess it follows that they are a better alternative to different bars, but thats personal preference. ive purchased them before, they are pretty good if you are on a specialized diet.


tldr, they are one of the best alternatives on the market. stop criticizing something for the sake of criticizing it


besides, protein bars should only be eaten during/after strenuous exercise like free lifting or playing outdoor sports, not as a snack while watching TV (which is what most people will associate snacking with...)
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
February 12 2015 19:39 GMT
#42
and here's the ingredients for their sucralose brand:

Protein Blend (Whey Protein Isolate, Milk Protein Isolate), Isomalto-Oligosaccharides* (Prebiotic Fiber), Water, Almonds, Cocoa Butter, Erythritol. Contains less than 2% of the following: Cocoa Powder, Natural Flavors, Coconut Oil, Sea Salt, Sunflower Lecithin, Dextrin, Baking Soda, Steviol Glycosides (Stevia), Sucralose.


the Isomalto-Oligosaccharides is a fancy name for what is basically just liquid fiber, which is what holds the bars together. a lot of companies sell this for cooking and baking purposes.

Stevia and sucralose are in some of their bars.
Shyndashu
Profile Joined September 2011
United States136 Posts
February 12 2015 19:40 GMT
#43
On February 13 2015 03:26 Legio wrote:
Quest isn't listed on actionforhealthykids.org as a sponsor or a core supporter. Basically this is a branding campaign where Quest takes its OREO and cream cookies and try to associate them with the worth "healthy" and "kids" in peoples minds.

Quest also sells Cheddar and Sourcream "protein" chips on their website. No doubt another healthy option for kids.



Do you not have nutrition labels where you live or do just not know how to read one?
ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
February 12 2015 19:41 GMT
#44
On February 13 2015 04:38 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 04:33 ahw wrote:
for anyone who doesnt know, quest bars are more or less the only protein bars without a ton of sugar. they have a line without sucralose as well if that stuff bugs you, for whatever reason.

they are popular with people who follow low carbohydrate diets, or for anyone who is sensitive to that kind of thing.

I guess it follows that they are a better alternative to different bars, but thats personal preference. ive purchased them before, they are pretty good if you are on a specialized diet.


tldr, they are one of the best alternatives on the market. stop criticizing something for the sake of criticizing it


besides, protein bars should only be eaten during/after strenuous exercise like free lifting or playing outdoor sports, not as a snack while watching TV (which is what most people will associate snacking with...)



Yeah, sure, if thats what you want to do. but I don't see what is wrong with eating a high protein high fibre bar instead of, say, chips or juice or whatever.

Its not like eating protein is bad
Shyndashu
Profile Joined September 2011
United States136 Posts
February 12 2015 19:42 GMT
#45
On February 13 2015 04:38 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 04:33 ahw wrote:
for anyone who doesnt know, quest bars are more or less the only protein bars without a ton of sugar. they have a line without sucralose as well if that stuff bugs you, for whatever reason.

they are popular with people who follow low carbohydrate diets, or for anyone who is sensitive to that kind of thing.

I guess it follows that they are a better alternative to different bars, but thats personal preference. ive purchased them before, they are pretty good if you are on a specialized diet.


tldr, they are one of the best alternatives on the market. stop criticizing something for the sake of criticizing it


besides, protein bars should only be eaten during/after strenuous exercise like free lifting or playing outdoor sports, not as a snack while watching TV (which is what most people will associate snacking with...)



Wrong. Please learn some stuff on nutrition before talking. You see too many bodybuilders and assume that's what it's all about or something.
ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
February 12 2015 19:43 GMT
#46
On February 13 2015 04:40 Shyndashu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 03:26 Legio wrote:
Quest isn't listed on actionforhealthykids.org as a sponsor or a core supporter. Basically this is a branding campaign where Quest takes its OREO and cream cookies and try to associate them with the worth "healthy" and "kids" in peoples minds.

Quest also sells Cheddar and Sourcream "protein" chips on their website. No doubt another healthy option for kids.



Do you not have nutrition labels where you live or do just not know how to read one?



they are running a business trying to market alternatives to people who are looking for a premium protein bar. obviously they want it to taste good. I don't understand where the negativity comes from.

And look at the nutrition profile for the chips. They are, in fact, a healthier option for kids with only 5 grams of sugar or starch and a high amount of protein.
Shyndashu
Profile Joined September 2011
United States136 Posts
February 12 2015 19:53 GMT
#47
On February 13 2015 02:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Cookies and cream chocolate bars.... ideal health food. Not you know... Fruit or something



Fruit is nothing but carbohydrates. Besides some vitamins, you don't get anything else from them. Take an apple for example. An apple is roughly 100 calories, but 25g carbohydrates. So say you eat 2 to match the total caloric intake of that of one of the quest bars. You get virtually the same amount of potassium (the biggest vitamin coming from apples), but you also get 21g protein and only 22g carbs whereas 2 apples is 50g carbs. Carbs are good if you're using them, but otherwise once carbs are broken down into glucose, if not used immediately will be stored as fat once absorbed from your bloodstream. Not to mention such a high intake of carbohydrates will spike your insulin and high levels of insulin regularly could cause you to go diabetic on us. The protein alone acts as an appetite suppressor as your body takes longer to break down protein and it's an essential macronutrient for kids.

So in conclusion... the flavor is listed cookies and cream. But it's not a candy bar. It is an ideal health food. And even more so than "Fruit or something"
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
February 12 2015 20:07 GMT
#48
Can you release the shirt but without the quest logo and hashtag on it? I would buy that so fast.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 12 2015 20:09 GMT
#49
On February 13 2015 04:41 ahw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 04:38 amazingxkcd wrote:
On February 13 2015 04:33 ahw wrote:
for anyone who doesnt know, quest bars are more or less the only protein bars without a ton of sugar. they have a line without sucralose as well if that stuff bugs you, for whatever reason.

they are popular with people who follow low carbohydrate diets, or for anyone who is sensitive to that kind of thing.

I guess it follows that they are a better alternative to different bars, but thats personal preference. ive purchased them before, they are pretty good if you are on a specialized diet.


tldr, they are one of the best alternatives on the market. stop criticizing something for the sake of criticizing it


besides, protein bars should only be eaten during/after strenuous exercise like free lifting or playing outdoor sports, not as a snack while watching TV (which is what most people will associate snacking with...)



Yeah, sure, if thats what you want to do. but I don't see what is wrong with eating a high protein high fibre bar instead of, say, chips or juice or whatever.

Its not like eating protein is bad

However eating too much protein is useless since the excess in proteins (compared to what your body needs) will be immediatly eliminated through urea.

On February 13 2015 04:53 Shyndashu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 02:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Cookies and cream chocolate bars.... ideal health food. Not you know... Fruit or something



Fruit is nothing but carbohydrates. Besides some vitamins, you don't get anything else from them. Take an apple for example. An apple is roughly 100 calories, but 25g carbohydrates. So say you eat 2 to match the total caloric intake of that of one of the quest bars. You get virtually the same amount of potassium (the biggest vitamin coming from apples), but you also get 21g protein and only 22g carbs whereas 2 apples is 50g carbs. Carbs are good if you're using them, but otherwise once carbs are broken down into glucose, if not used immediately will be stored as fat once absorbed from your bloodstream. Not to mention such a high intake of carbohydrates will spike your insulin and high levels of insulin regularly could cause you to go diabetic on us. The protein alone acts as an appetite suppressor as your body takes longer to break down protein and it's an essential macronutrient for kids.

So in conclusion... the flavor is listed cookies and cream. But it's not a candy bar. It is an ideal health food. And even more so than "Fruit or something"

Proteins are not the only thing our body needs, thus eating fruits is also important, especially for young people. Protein is essential for kids but carbohydrates are way more important than what you're saying because they fuel your whole body and more importantly is the main fuel for your brain (that's why you're hundry when you work a lot). Glucose being stored is normal and necessary, using all the glucose you get from food immediatly would kill you because of the heat generated by the glycolyse ; what is bad is an excess of glucose, which you remedy by doing sports. And to go diabetic with fruits as your main source of glucose you'd need to eat a lot (and by a lot I mean really a lot) of fruits. (besides, potassium is not a vitamin).
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RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
February 12 2015 20:14 GMT
#50
On February 13 2015 04:53 Shyndashu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 02:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Cookies and cream chocolate bars.... ideal health food. Not you know... Fruit or something



Fruit is nothing but carbohydrates. Besides some vitamins, you don't get anything else from them. Take an apple for example. An apple is roughly 100 calories, but 25g carbohydrates. So say you eat 2 to match the total caloric intake of that of one of the quest bars. You get virtually the same amount of potassium (the biggest vitamin coming from apples), but you also get 21g protein and only 22g carbs whereas 2 apples is 50g carbs. Carbs are good if you're using them, but otherwise once carbs are broken down into glucose, if not used immediately will be stored as fat once absorbed from your bloodstream. Not to mention such a high intake of carbohydrates will spike your insulin and high levels of insulin regularly could cause you to go diabetic on us. The protein alone acts as an appetite suppressor as your body takes longer to break down protein and it's an essential macronutrient for kids.

So in conclusion... the flavor is listed cookies and cream. But it's not a candy bar. It is an ideal health food. And even more so than "Fruit or something"

thank you teamliquid.net for teaching me that the ideal health food is quest bars. I won't eat anything else from now.
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
February 12 2015 20:15 GMT
#51
On February 13 2015 04:33 ahw wrote:
for anyone who doesnt know, quest bars are more or less the only protein bars without a ton of sugar. they have a line without sucralose as well if that stuff bugs you, for whatever reason.

they are popular with people who follow low carbohydrate diets, or for anyone who is sensitive to that kind of thing.

I guess it follows that they are a better alternative to different bars, but thats personal preference. ive purchased them before, they are pretty good if you are on a specialized diet.


tldr, they are one of the best alternatives on the market. stop criticizing something for the sake of criticizing it

This guy is correct. Quest bars are the best source for protein without all the added sugars and carbs. I tried the cookie and cream; it tastes good but does not fill you.

However, they are expensive as fuck. I believe one bar is nearly $4 after taxes in Canada.

As for their sponsorship, I wholeheartedly approve!

On another note, really mods? Banning SGTK for a harmless joke? I don't like the nazimod jokes that get thrown around, but sometimes this site warrants those jokes.
Ben1500
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom180 Posts
February 12 2015 20:24 GMT
#52
Is there even such a thing as healthy food? Surely if you had no fat in your diet, or salt pizza wouldn't be bad.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
February 12 2015 20:26 GMT
#53
On February 13 2015 05:15 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 04:33 ahw wrote:
for anyone who doesnt know, quest bars are more or less the only protein bars without a ton of sugar. they have a line without sucralose as well if that stuff bugs you, for whatever reason.

they are popular with people who follow low carbohydrate diets, or for anyone who is sensitive to that kind of thing.

I guess it follows that they are a better alternative to different bars, but thats personal preference. ive purchased them before, they are pretty good if you are on a specialized diet.


tldr, they are one of the best alternatives on the market. stop criticizing something for the sake of criticizing it

This guy is correct. Quest bars are the best source for protein without all the added sugars and carbs. I tried the cookie and cream; it tastes good but does not fill you.

However, they are expensive as fuck. I believe one bar is nearly $4 after taxes in Canada.

As for their sponsorship, I wholeheartedly approve!

On another note, really mods? Banning SGTK for a harmless joke? I don't like the nazimod jokes that get thrown around, but sometimes this site warrants those jokes.

I don't think it was a joke. America does officially consider pizza as a vegetable.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45306416/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/t/pizza-vegetable-congress-says-yes/
Maybe it changed ?
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
February 12 2015 20:32 GMT
#54
On February 13 2015 05:26 RouaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 05:15 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
On February 13 2015 04:33 ahw wrote:
for anyone who doesnt know, quest bars are more or less the only protein bars without a ton of sugar. they have a line without sucralose as well if that stuff bugs you, for whatever reason.

they are popular with people who follow low carbohydrate diets, or for anyone who is sensitive to that kind of thing.

I guess it follows that they are a better alternative to different bars, but thats personal preference. ive purchased them before, they are pretty good if you are on a specialized diet.


tldr, they are one of the best alternatives on the market. stop criticizing something for the sake of criticizing it

This guy is correct. Quest bars are the best source for protein without all the added sugars and carbs. I tried the cookie and cream; it tastes good but does not fill you.

However, they are expensive as fuck. I believe one bar is nearly $4 after taxes in Canada.

As for their sponsorship, I wholeheartedly approve!

On another note, really mods? Banning SGTK for a harmless joke? I don't like the nazimod jokes that get thrown around, but sometimes this site warrants those jokes.

I don't think it was a joke. America does officially consider pizza as a vegetable.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45306416/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/t/pizza-vegetable-congress-says-yes/
Maybe it changed ?

I think you need to read the article instead of just the headline, although the headline was very clickbaity.

The proposed bill wanted to consider the pizza sauce as a vegetable, not the entire pizza.

Besides, I don't care what congress thinks of pizza.
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
February 12 2015 20:41 GMT
#55
On February 13 2015 04:53 Shyndashu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 02:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Cookies and cream chocolate bars.... ideal health food. Not you know... Fruit or something



Fruit is nothing but carbohydrates. Besides some vitamins, you don't get anything else from them. Take an apple for example. An apple is roughly 100 calories, but 25g carbohydrates. So say you eat 2 to match the total caloric intake of that of one of the quest bars. You get virtually the same amount of potassium (the biggest vitamin coming from apples), but you also get 21g protein and only 22g carbs whereas 2 apples is 50g carbs. Carbs are good if you're using them, but otherwise once carbs are broken down into glucose, if not used immediately will be stored as fat once absorbed from your bloodstream. Not to mention such a high intake of carbohydrates will spike your insulin and high levels of insulin regularly could cause you to go diabetic on us. The protein alone acts as an appetite suppressor as your body takes longer to break down protein and it's an essential macronutrient for kids.

So in conclusion... the flavor is listed cookies and cream. But it's not a candy bar. It is an ideal health food. And even more so than "Fruit or something"

A Quest bar a day keeps the doctor away?
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-12 22:57:03
February 12 2015 21:45 GMT
#56
On February 13 2015 04:53 Shyndashu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 02:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Cookies and cream chocolate bars.... ideal health food. Not you know... Fruit or something



Fruit is nothing but carbohydrates. Besides some vitamins, you don't get anything else from them. Take an apple for example. An apple is roughly 100 calories, but 25g carbohydrates. So say you eat 2 to match the total caloric intake of that of one of the quest bars. You get virtually the same amount of potassium (the biggest vitamin coming from apples), but you also get 21g protein and only 22g carbs whereas 2 apples is 50g carbs. Carbs are good if you're using them, but otherwise once carbs are broken down into glucose, if not used immediately will be stored as fat once absorbed from your bloodstream. Not to mention such a high intake of carbohydrates will spike your insulin and high levels of insulin regularly could cause you to go diabetic on us. The protein alone acts as an appetite suppressor as your body takes longer to break down protein and it's an essential macronutrient for kids.

So in conclusion... the flavor is listed cookies and cream. But it's not a candy bar. It is an ideal health food. And even more so than "Fruit or something"


I'm sorry, but you are wrong on multiple accounts. Just to mention the most gross errors: Carbs aren't just carbs - in the case of apples it is fructose, not glucose - and both will convert to glycogen before fat. The insulin response to eating an apple is in fact very low. Potassium is not a vitamin, it is a mineral and it is not even close to being the most important nutrition in apples.

EDIT: And apparently neither apples nor protein bars kept the doctor away.

EDIT2: Just realised you were the guy telling another person to learn about nutrition... I hope the irony doesn't escape you.
fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
February 12 2015 21:53 GMT
#57
I think any initiative were healthier options are highlighted is a good thing, especially for kids these days with the sedentary nature of gaming or even doing homework.

Not sure of the nutritional values in these bars however, so hard to say if they are good or bad, or even truly healthy.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-12 22:07:41
February 12 2015 22:04 GMT
#58
On February 13 2015 04:53 Shyndashu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2015 02:51 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Cookies and cream chocolate bars.... ideal health food. Not you know... Fruit or something



Fruit is nothing but carbohydrates. Besides some vitamins, you don't get anything else from them. Take an apple for example. An apple is roughly 100 calories, but 25g carbohydrates. So say you eat 2 to match the total caloric intake of that of one of the quest bars. You get virtually the same amount of potassium (the biggest vitamin coming from apples), but you also get 21g protein and only 22g carbs whereas 2 apples is 50g carbs. Carbs are good if you're using them, but otherwise once carbs are broken down into glucose, if not used immediately will be stored as fat once absorbed from your bloodstream. Not to mention such a high intake of carbohydrates will spike your insulin and high levels of insulin regularly could cause you to go diabetic on us. The protein alone acts as an appetite suppressor as your body takes longer to break down protein and it's an essential macronutrient for kids.

So in conclusion... the flavor is listed cookies and cream. But it's not a candy bar. It is an ideal health food. And even more so than "Fruit or something"


I'm almost completely certain that sugary products like candy, sugar or cookies will be absorbed directly due to an insulin reaction. However I'm pretty sure that fruit is full of fructose and not glucose; that doesn't spike your insulin.

Pretty sure that fruit and vegetables are like the only two foods which you can actually eat with no reserve whatsoever.


Edit: I just eat whatever shit I find and follow no special diet. Maybe it's because I eat almost exclusively meat, eggs, vegetables, fruits, rice and Barilla?

Eating that stuff is surely more healthy than any fast food, correct?
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
February 12 2015 22:09 GMT
#59
It's all nice, but does anyone here réally see a bar that's 4$ per bar (source: Jett.Jack.Alvir) help get children healthy? I couldn't even afford them. I'm pretty poor, though...
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-12 22:36:32
February 12 2015 22:31 GMT
#60
On February 13 2015 07:09 Yorbon wrote:
It's all nice, but does anyone here réally see a bar that's 4$ per bar (source: Jett.Jack.Alvir) help get children healthy? I couldn't even afford them. I'm pretty poor, though...

I don't think Action for Healthy Kids is trying to put these bars for sale in schools. I think the bars are thrown in to give people incentive to buy and 100% of the proceeds go to Action for Healthy Kids. Looks like a dece organization.

Yeah like I dunno if its 100% of profit or all gross proceeds but i don't see any association between Quest Gaming and Action for Healthy Kids other than Quest gaming is going to give them a donation. Basically they are selling you cereal bars as a fundraiser. not trying to give them to children. even tho they do look pretty healthy.
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