EPTOn January 09 2015 19:10 Ishentar wrote:
The Montrouge killer has been arrested or not ?
The Montrouge killer has been arrested or not ?
they identified him, they know who he is
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Makro
France16890 Posts
they identified him, they know who he is | ||
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SkrollK
France580 Posts
Un commercial qui avait rendez-vous, vendredi matin, dans l'entreprise de Dammartin-en-Goële où se tient la prise d'otage a témoigné sur France info. L'homme, un commercial, a rencontré un des frères Kouachi. "J'ai croisé un des terroristes, je lui ai serré la main et je lui ai dit bonjour". Le tueur lui aurait alors rétorqué : "Monsieur, on ne tue pas les civils". "Je vais jouer au loto car j'ai eu beaucoup de chance ce matin", a ajouté le commercial. "I met a terrorist and we shook hands." A sales representative, who had a rendezvous this morning, in the firm of Dammartin-en-goële where the hostage keeping's happening, tells us. The man met one of the Kouachi's brother. "I ran into a terrorist, i shook his hand and I said him "Bonjour" (hello)." The killer answered him : "Mister, we don't kill civilians". Then he says he is gonna play Loto (french lottery) today. EDIT : brothers Kouachi got at least one hostage, and they say they wanna die as martyr. 2nd EDIT : apparently, the suspect of the Montrouge shooting (yesterday morning) has been identified, and it apears that him and kouachi's brothers know each others. | ||
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Ishentar
France122 Posts
Sadly, the 2 killers appear to have promised to die as martyrs. It's extremely likely that an assault will be needed | ||
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Riski
France15 Posts
On January 09 2015 18:54 Makro wrote: "GIGN asking the journalist to avoid filming the concerned area" GIGN got the guys by telephone and they were saying they want to die as martyrs.... I guess police doen't want to show anything serious on live news. | ||
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Riski
France15 Posts
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
Also: On January 09 2015 18:24 Aeromi wrote: Did you post this because it is related? I'm not sure where that is (never was in Paris or that area). If yes damn... Hope you guys in France stay safe! I hoped by the time I woke up it'd be over... | ||
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Ishentar
France122 Posts
French president is making a speech. EDIT : There now are french special forces on the roof. EDIT : The four critically injured in Charlie Hebdo killing are not in danger of dying. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On January 09 2015 19:15 KeksX wrote: My bad about posting the video earlier, didn't think that one through. Also: Did you post this because it is related? I'm not sure where that is (never was in Paris or that area). If yes damn... Hope you guys in France stay safe! I hoped by the time I woke up it'd be over... The airport closed 2 landing zones to allows police choppers to freely roam the area. | ||
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Ishentar
France122 Posts
EDIT : Overnight a mosque has burnt in Savoie : LeMonde.fr: Mosquée incendiée en Savoie Selon le Dauphiné Libéré, une mosquée aurait été incendiée cette nuit à Aix-les-Bains (Savoie) La mosquée, ancienne, aurait été partiemment détruite par les flammes | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
On January 09 2015 09:21 Paljas wrote: you are literally advocating to arrest people based on what kind of beliefs they hold. it can hardly get more totalitarian. Everything This already happens, you can get arrested in many Western countries for holding various extremist beliefs. See here. | ||
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Liebig
France738 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
On January 09 2015 18:56 Furikawari wrote: Yeah, first time since the begining of all this mess that authorities are asking media to restrain information diffusion. Dunno if it really matters but it can't hurt for sure. OPSEC is made much harder in this era of social media and everyone uploading footage/photos of police operations | ||
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Aeromi
France14461 Posts
On January 09 2015 19:31 Ishentar wrote: The Montrouge and Charlie Hebdo killings are officially related. EDIT : Overnight a mosque has burnt in Savoie : It was not à criminal act. I'm on a train right now I can't post the source. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
On January 09 2015 19:31 Ishentar wrote: [/QUOTE]The Montrouge and Charlie Hebdo killings are officially related. well I'm reading this on BBC news: In a separate development, French media reports say police have now identified the suspected killer of a policewoman in the Paris suburb of Montrouge on Thursday. The shooting is said to be unrelated to the Charlie Hebdo attack | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4926 Posts
On January 09 2015 19:52 Grumbels wrote: This already happens, you can get arrested in many Western countries for holding various extremist beliefs. See here. Freedom of speech is a complicated subject. Personally I don't want Islamists jailed for spewing their propaganda. But then again, when a mother prepares her toddlers for Jihad and publicly tells others to do so as in one of the described cases, something has to be done. Germany is an interesting case. I have some doubts that the modern free and democratic Bundesrepublik could have been formed without the strict anti-Nazi laws, which clearly violate freedom of speech. Ideas like the Auschwitz lie are easily spread in a population yearning to rid itself of guilt, despite being patently false. I don't think people in the US without the history of fascism have any idea how dangerous totalitarian ideas can be. That said I don't think any more laws that restrict freedom of speech are necessary here in Europe, we already have too many of them. | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On January 09 2015 19:15 KeksX wrote: My bad about posting the video earlier, didn't think that one through. Also: Did you post this because it is related? I'm not sure where that is (never was in Paris or that area). If yes damn... Hope you guys in France stay safe! I hoped by the time I woke up it'd be over... One or two of the airport stripe of the Roissy - Charles-De-Gaulle are oriented in a way that makes planes fly above the location where the suspects are holed up, so for security measures, flights are avoiding this area. There's like a huge queue for landing forming up. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
 just texted a friend there and thank god he is fine.On January 09 2015 19:52 Grumbels wrote: This already happens, you can get arrested in many Western countries for holding various extremist beliefs. See here. Pretty good read on that article, i like how the writer is rather neutral as well (i bet he would be afraid to get into trouble lol). But ya instead of getting jetpack or teleportation, who knew social media would be the biggest invention in the 2nd decade of 21th century. | ||
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Ishentar
France122 Posts
Well several french news report it is : Connexion établie entre les fusillades de Charlie Hebdo et Montrouge Des sources policières ont confirmé à l'AFP qu'une "connexion" existe entre les djihadistes de Charlie Hebdo et le suspect de la fusillade de Montrouge, qui est survenue jeudi dans le sud de Paris. That's exactly what's said. Yesterday we believed it was not related. I think your informations are outdated. It's breaking news here. And TBH, so far, french news are more trustworthy on this event than others, probably because french news are closer and have better sources in France for obvious reasons. Translation of this Breaking News : A relation between shootings (Charlie Hebdo / montrouge) has been established : Police sources have confirmed AFP that a relation between the Charlie Hebdo jihadists and the suspect of the montrouge shooting which ocurred Tuesday in southern paris has been established. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
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