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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
January 09 2015 11:41 GMT
#1301
I'm baffled by the amount of crap coming from the medias, even the "respectable ones". For the moment, only a few seems to handle the news correctly, such as Le Monde in France, which wait a lot before announcing sometimes, trying to cross-verify its information and trust official sources or tangible informations, instead of spewing shit based on rumors...
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 11:42:03
January 09 2015 11:41 GMT
#1302
Edit: Holy shit that's the wrong thread. Sorry.
Ishentar
Profile Joined February 2014
France122 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 11:54:13
January 09 2015 11:45 GMT
#1303
Well Lemonde.fr is the most reliable source there is, everything on Lemonde.fr has been confirmed and confirmed again I think, however they're a bit slower for some informations that are actually true since they're way more cautious.

LeFigaro does not seem to wait this much for official confirmations but they gave no false information so far even if there were confused or uncomplete one.

LePoint had some very early news sometimes but also some false informations, same for Leparisien.

BFMTV sometimes gave rumors but they say it when it is unconfirmed informations. For most informations however they await authorization to give them. It depends whether they're critical or not.
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 11:58:43
January 09 2015 11:57 GMT
#1304
LeMonde just confirmed there is a link between the two shootings, so I think we can go ahead and consider it true.



"A link has been established between the suspect of the Montrouge shooting and the Kouachi brothers."
I like words.
SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
January 09 2015 12:06 GMT
#1305
On January 09 2015 20:45 Ishentar wrote:
Well Lemonde.fr is the most reliable source there is, everything on Lemonde.fr has been confirmed and confirmed again I think, however they're a bit slower for some informations that are actually true since they're way more cautious.

LeFigaro does not seem to wait this much for official confirmations but they gave no false information so far even if there were confused or uncomplete one.

LePoint had some very early news sometimes but also some false informations, same for Leparisien.

BFMTV sometimes gave rumors but they say it when it is unconfirmed informations. For most informations however they await authorization to give them. It depends whether they're critical or not.


Pretty nice sum up.

Also, ATM, no assault given.

Quick recap of the event :

- don't know how much hostages, but it seems at least one
- the two suspects have been confirmed to be the two brothers from the Charlie Hebdo massacre
- no assault given atm
- no press point until operation is over, so that no one can use information of the police/GIGN/RAID...

- Montrouge killing is not DIRECTLY related, but the two brothers and the killer from Montrouge know each others, probably from a djhiadist cell known as "the sector of the Butte Chaumont" (name of a Paris' district)

That's what we know for sure atm. No more news until the end of the hostage keeping.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 09 2015 12:11 GMT
#1306
French government said : "Les équipes de négociation ont tenté d'établir un contact avec les forcenés"

So : Negotiation team tried to contact the madmen
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Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
January 09 2015 12:13 GMT
#1307
On January 09 2015 21:11 FFW_Rude wrote:
French government said : "Les équipes de négociation ont tenté d'établir un contact avec les forcenés"

So : Negotiation team tried to contact the madmen


I hope it won't need 2 days like Merah...
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 12:41:11
January 09 2015 12:17 GMT
#1308
On January 09 2015 21:13 Agathon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 21:11 FFW_Rude wrote:
French government said : "Les équipes de négociation ont tenté d'établir un contact avec les forcenés"

So : Negotiation team tried to contact the madmen


I hope it won't need 2 days like Merah...


They will take the time they need to starve them or make them sleepy. Special forces aren't rushing stuff in France. Remember the airport affair where the gendarmerie (i think) took an assaut on a plane and there was casualties. I don't think no special force want to do that kind of assault again.

It's just IMO.
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Ishentar
Profile Joined February 2014
France122 Posts
January 09 2015 12:21 GMT
#1309
The plane hostage crisis assault resulted in 0 hostage death, it's not a good example of failed assault.

Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
January 09 2015 12:24 GMT
#1310
So i assume they still have at least one hostage? I was at the gym and couldn't follow so closely the situation.
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SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 12:26:51
January 09 2015 12:25 GMT
#1311
Another shooting in Paris apparently, in a store, one injuried, no casualities.

EDIT : OMFG porte de Vincennes, apparently another hostage keeping, the shooter has locked him up in a jewish food store...
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
January 09 2015 12:26 GMT
#1312
There is a shooting in Paris.
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Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
January 09 2015 12:27 GMT
#1313
As a Dane, who had seen the danish newspaper Jyllands Posten post satirical drawings of Muhammed, this feels like something that could've happend in Denmark.
I've allways thought that you should keep posting these pictures, freedom of speech is very important (which was handled excellently by our Prime Minister back in the day) and drawings that are satirical should be seen as such. However a friend of mine posted on facebook that this harsh stand for our right to publicly "shame" (as some people interpret it to my understanding) their religion, with these drawings.

He illustrated it with a rather overexagerated example "let's draw all the politician's children in situations where they are tortured or raped and then call it "the politicians freedom of speech in action" as a satirical drawing". The analogy is poorly made, however the point stands to me:
If people are heavily offended by something that you mean no harm with, why in the world would you keep doing that something?
To defend our right of free speech? Well maybe, but again this isn't really about us, we're not the ones who're being offended
Because we shouldn't give in to terrorism like this in France (or when everyone went batshit crazy during the Muhammed drawing thing)? I like this arguement better, however I'm not sure it's backing down from terrorism as much as it is respecting other peoples religion.
Note, I do in no way at all support or defend the shootings, I just saw people in the danish media who wanted to print out the muhammed drawings again to make some kind of a point, I'm honestly not sure which one...
In the woods, there lurks..
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
January 09 2015 12:27 GMT
#1314
Wouldn't be surprised if its the guy from yesterday. What a clusterfuck.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
1oo
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal876 Posts
January 09 2015 12:28 GMT
#1315
On January 09 2015 21:17 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 21:13 Agathon wrote:
On January 09 2015 21:11 FFW_Rude wrote:
French government said : "Les équipes de négociation ont tenté d'établir un contact avec les forcenés"

So : Negotiation team tried to contact the madmen


I hope it won't need 2 days like Merah...


They will take the time they need to starve them or make them sleepy. Special forces aren't rushing stuff in France. Remember the airport affair where the gendarmerie (i think) took an assaut on a plane and there was casualties. I don't think no special force want to do that kind of assault again.


So.. the hostages are going to starve too?
At the top of the game, we play by diferent rules.
SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
January 09 2015 12:28 GMT
#1316
On January 09 2015 21:27 Grettin wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised if its the guy from yesterday. What a clusterfuck.


Apparently not, that one would be on the run with his girlfriend (??) in a car.
Ishentar
Profile Joined February 2014
France122 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 12:30:54
January 09 2015 12:28 GMT
#1317
In vincennes there is a shooting in a kashrut store, Montrouge killer is said to be responsible for the new hostage crisis and shooting in Paris.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
January 09 2015 12:30 GMT
#1318
army should be deployed
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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SkrollK
Profile Joined January 2015
France580 Posts
January 09 2015 12:30 GMT
#1319
On January 09 2015 21:28 Ishentar wrote:
In vincennes there is a shooting in a kasher store, Montrouge killer is said to be responsible for the new hostage crisis and shooting in Paris.


Yep, that's what Le Figaro said just now.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
January 09 2015 12:31 GMT
#1320
I retweeted a picture on my account, can some ne post it please ? I'M on a train right now :/
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