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Grettin
42417 Posts
On January 09 2015 21:31 Aeromi wrote: I retweeted a picture on my account, can some ne post it please ? I'M on a train right now :/ I can't translate that. Something about sniper rifle.. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On January 09 2015 21:27 Iplaythings wrote: As a Dane, who had seen the danish newspaper Jyllands Posten post satirical drawings of Muhammed, this feels like something that could've happend in Denmark. I've allways thought that you should keep posting these pictures, freedom of speech is very important (which was handled excellently by our Prime Minister back in the day) and drawings that are satirical should be seen as such. However a friend of mine posted on facebook that this harsh stand for our right to publicly "shame" (as some people interpret it to my understanding) their religion, with these drawings. He illustrated it with a rather overexagerated example "let's draw all the politician's children in situations where they are tortured or raped and then call it "the politicians freedom of speech in action" as a satirical drawing". The analogy is poorly made, however the point stands to me: If people are heavily offended by something that you mean no harm with, why in the world would you keep doing that something? To defend our right of free speech? Well maybe, but again this isn't really about us, we're not the ones who're being offended Because we shouldn't give in to terrorism like this in France (or when everyone went batshit crazy during the Muhammed drawing thing)? I like this arguement better, however I'm not sure it's backing down from terrorism as much as it is respecting other peoples religion. Note, I do in no way at all support or defend the shootings, I just saw people in the danish media who wanted to print out the muhammed drawings again to make some kind of a point, I'm honestly not sure which one... The difference with your illustration is that it's asbolutly not humouristic at all, for anyone, so even if they can draw something like that, il wold just lead to the end of their newspaper. The goal of a satirical newspaper is to be witty, funny and controversial at the same time. Illustrating kid's rape just for the insult is of poor taste. | ||
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Aeromi
France14463 Posts
On January 09 2015 21:32 Grettin wrote: https://twitter.com/Fiaxhs/status/553528549333037057 I can't translate that. Something about sniper rifle.. Sniper, shield. Holy fucking shit | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
Tanks to the rescue | ||
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SkrollK
France580 Posts
Apparently, several women in this store. Seems like he is acting mimicrying his two mofos friends. EDIT : apparently the guys @Vincennes said to the police : "You know who I am." Could be the guy from Montrouge, but could also be the third guy from the Charlie Hebdo massacre (only supposition here). | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
Yes but not to death. They want the guys tired. So the assault will take place at night. Day assault is too dangerous. On January 09 2015 21:21 Ishentar wrote: The plane hostage crisis assault resulted in 0 hostage death, it's not a good example of failed assault. There was death in the gandermerie though | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
On January 09 2015 21:36 SkrollK wrote: Porte de Vincennes keeping hostage confirmed, confirmed to be the same mofo as yesterday morning in Montrouge. Apparently, several women in this store. Seems like he is acting mimicrying his two mofos friends. If they are actually connected (as it was said to be true), looks more like trying to "help" out. Just like yesterday, he attacked when the two were on the run from the police. Diverting forces. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On January 09 2015 21:36 FFW_Rude wrote: Yes but not to death. They want the guys tired. So the assault will take place at night. Day assault is too dangerous. There was death in the gandermerie though wounded but no death, resulting in one of the most succesful operation in the history of the gign | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On January 09 2015 21:38 Makro wrote: wounded but no death, resulting in one of the most succesful operation in the history of the gign Well then i'm stupid and was thinking about something else. Sorry. | ||
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
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SkrollK
France580 Posts
On January 09 2015 21:37 Grettin wrote: If they are actually connected (as it was said to be true), looks more like trying to "help" out. Just like yesterday, he attacked when the two were on the run from the police. Diverting forces. Yep, you're mb right there. But what i'm fearing is that if the assault is not concerted between the two location, you could have a vengeance perpetred on some hostage from one part or the other... | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On January 09 2015 21:39 SoSexy wrote: SHIT a tank o.o LeMonde saying it maybe just be a coincidence that the tank would be there only for transit. No confirmation if the tank is heading to the hostage situation | ||
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Ishentar
France122 Posts
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On January 09 2015 21:41 Ishentar wrote: No, there were no deaths in GIGN, 9 injured but no deaths, only 4 hijackers and 3 hostage but it was before the assault. I stand corrected. Responded in another post. Sorry. | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
On January 09 2015 21:40 FFW_Rude wrote: LeMonde saying it maybe just be a coincidence that the tank would be there only for transit. No confirmation if the tank is heading to the hostage situation Fuck it at this point. Might as well bring in tank(s). | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On January 09 2015 21:32 Faust852 wrote: The difference with your illustration is that it's asbolutly not humouristic at all, for anyone, so even if they can draw something like that, il wold just lead to the end of their newspaper. The goal of a satirical newspaper is to be witty, funny and controversial at the same time. Illustrating kid's rape just for the insult is of poor taste. You completely missed my point man, I even said it was exagerated. If you're gonna respond to quote please don't take it out of a context, ofcourse the example is in a bad taste but that's not the point here. The point I'm trying to make is that what we find witty, funny and controversial these people interpret it as what you accurately defeind as "an insult of poor taste" and I am not sure if it's worth making a stand for the right to draw these satirical drawings.. | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
On January 09 2015 21:43 Makro wrote: actually it's a AMX_10_RC but i think it's only a coincidence Oh, well anyway, it's not that uncommon to see a light armored vehicles during hostage situations. I guess we'll see! | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
edit : according to France Inter the guy at the Porte de Vincennes has 2 hostages, dunno how legit is the source though | ||
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