So we should respect this guy propaganda otherwise we are fascists? I see
You can disrespect, mock, satirize or better yet (in my opinion) simply disagree with that guy all you want. I disagree with almost everything he said. However, he's very careful in what he says- he never specifically condones the violence nor does he condemn it- he says many words in order to avoid condemning it. However, he committed no crime and there is no reason to throw him in prison. Not unless it could be proven he is doing something illegal like recruiting for terrorist organization. Freedom of belief and expression by its very nature has to allow for some very reprehensible beliefs.
(As an aside, he somehow linked in 'freedom from insult' when talking about freedom of expression. That's no freedom I've ever heard of.)
He only commited no crime because there are no laws against it. A law makes a crime not the doings of some person. For example if I was to parade in a Nazi uniform wearing the Hakenkreuz and making the Hitler Gruß in Austria all in the open I would get arrested and I would have broken the law and I would have committed a crime. The same would happen if I would publicly deny the Holocaust or do other despicable things.
So why not extend these things and arrest people who come back from fighting their war in Syria or promote that the Sharia should be the law of the land?
I mean their are enough laws against hate speech even in america the land of the free. I just think that it is wrong to only arrest them and release them without any thought behind it. Why not arrest someone who was guilty of hate speech and release him after some psychology sessions or until he has seen the light of day? When he has proven that his ideology has sufficiently changed and that he recognizes the error in his ways?
Wow it's funny because the people who always throws hitler and fascism everywhere are always the one who have actual fascist ideas. Inventing laws to criminalize people you don't agree with is precisely a fascist thing to do. You want to fight fascism if I understood you, but your ways to do it are exactly what the 3rd reich was doing.
And more and more people are like you, they throw the word hitler and fascist to everything they don't like and then propose incredibly freedom restricting measures to "fight" this supposed fascism. But the measures you propose are more fascist that everything the guys your accusing of fascism will ever be, I hope sometime people can understand that.
I have the same view as you, but I can't help to change slowly my point of view on this matter. I feel we are being abused by our ethic and some, of not a lot of people are taking profit on it.
RIP this thread I guess. Anyway I'm wondering what the terrorists want to do now. Are they going to make another murder? To flee and go to Syria or another country? To entrench themselves and wait until the police kills them in order to die as martyrs?
They stole a car 25 mns ago then shots heard ans RTL reports they have hostages.
"Un important échange de coups de feu vient d'avoir lieu sur la nationale 2, peu de temps après le vol d'une voiture à Montagny-Sainte-Félicité dans l'Oise avec à bord deux individus correspondant au signalement des frères Kouachi."
Hopefully as more incidents like this happen people will wake up to the fact that Islam is a violent intolerant religion. Of course most of the 1.2 billion muslims aren't terrorists but Islam is the only religion with a size-able violent minority. When people insult Jesus, or Buddah, no one goes on killing sprees. Before people say "but what about the crusades and the inquisition?", to quote Frank Sobotka "this isn't back in the day". The crusades happened centuries ago and were violent and horrible and at the time Christianity was violent and horrible. Islam is centuries backwards in terms of women rights, gay rights, freedom of expression, and human decency. Those supporting Islam are supporting the violent oppression of women, LGBT's, and religious minorities.
Hi all I m french, I didn't read Charlie much, but it had a part in my family tradition and culture, as my fatehr used to buy his ancestor Hara Kiri back in the 60's and still has most of them somewhere in my cellar (Hara kiri was prohibited after their cover about general de gaulle's death in 1970, it renamed "Charlie" to avoid censorship and started again with the same people working for them)
I've seen a pretty accurate english video/article about what is Carlie (at least the modern version of it) on Vox :
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