Malaysian airliner shot down over Eastern Ukraine - Page 39

On July 19 2014 04:28 Ghanburighan wrote:


Which part, those are overview articles, they are just very dense news articles which discuss a lot of information.

On July 19 2014 04:31 JinDesu wrote:


Sorta like what StealthBlue did above.nevermind, he edited that out. I would suggest having the first or first two paragraphs of each article unspoilered, but the rest would be better served spoilered. It's making this page very long, and if you are doing it everytime you have an article to post, it makes for some serious scrolling.

On July 19 2014 04:41 Ghanburighan wrote:


Someone added spoilers. I also added a brief summary before them so people know what they're clicking on...

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What AP story, can you describe it a bit more in detail?

(CNN) -- A spokesman for 21 international monitors who on Friday visited the Malaysia Airlines crash site in eastern Ukraine said the team wasn't "given the access that we expected."

Michael Bociurkiw, spokesman for the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe team, told CNN's Christiane Amanpour the group was "only allowed access to about a 200-meter strip" for about 75 minutes at the site, which he said was guarded by armed men in uniform. "One of our top priorities was to find out what happened to the black boxes. No one was there to answer those questions," he said.

At least in public, the leaders of Germany, France and Britain expressed outrage over the downing of the airliner but were careful not to rush to judgment or publicly accuse Russia.

“We’re assuming that the Russian president of course has an influence on Russian separatists,” Merkel told reporters in Berlin. “But still one has to differentiate between the separatists and the Russian government.”

Some countries are really intent on letting things escalate. Whoever has nothing to do with it, just needs to stay out. Also, the US pressing their interests is annoying(in general, not completely linked to this case).

On July 19 2014 05:11 Lucumo wrote:
Hm:

An airliner being shot down in a territory where two forces are fighting each other...those things happen.
Second one to blame are the people who declared that route as safe.
US meddling as usual, sending FBI because one guy, who is also a US national, got killed (good pretense to become a lot more active I guess; it's a good enough reason after all...)

Whoever wrote that, just...sigh:


In my opinion, the best:


Some countries are really intent on letting things escalate. Whoever has nothing to do with it, just needs to stay out. Also, the US pressing their interests is annoying(in general, not completely linked to this case).

And again, an airliner being shot down there is not surprising. I mean, what do you think they are doing there? Shouting at each other? This incident hasn't changed the situation itself at all. It's just a good reason for certain countries to say or do something which they couldn't before.

On July 19 2014 05:29 Grumbels wrote:
Friend of my mother took the later flight. It's a bit strange to feel relief though, seems inappropriate.

On July 19 2014 05:20 Enzymatic wrote:
Russia had better look out for Obama's stern sanctions and displeased glares.

Good lord, if this was bush, half the US army would be in Ukraine by now.

On July 19 2014 05:36 Moka wrote:
It seems baffling to me that these airliners were permitted to fly in a warzone.

On July 19 2014 05:36 Moka wrote:
It seems baffling to me that these airliners were permitted to fly in a warzone.

On July 19 2014 05:42 Enzymatic wrote:


I hate all of these posts, because you people speak as if they're just casually hovering slowly at a couple thousand feet in the air taking a helicopter to their destination.

33k feet up is a lot different.

On July 19 2014 05:44 MoonBear wrote:

I've made a post on this issue before but just for further reading here is a BBC article that tries to explain this a bit more. As it states, this route was not considered risky.

It's really emphasised in the article when a pilot said that even during the Iraq war planes were still flying over the country. So long as the right precautions are taken, it's generally just not considered normal for military grade weapons to be turned onto commercial planes. Commercial planes will squawk their position constantly to identify as a civilian plane so military operators should know exactly what's going on.