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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On July 19 2014 01:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/TerryMoran/status/490166106808913926 if true, just confirms how incredibly stupid the terrorists are. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On July 19 2014 01:55 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: https://twitter.com/TerryMoran/status/490166106808913926 ... The humanity and the stupidity this is fucking terrible for the stabillity, do the families even get the bodies of their deceased family ?  | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
What scum these people are. | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On July 19 2014 02:00 m4ini wrote: So they let looters loot the dead bodies, but neutral observers who most likely want to investigate who actually shot the plane down get shot at. What scum these people are. maybe the terrorists arent stupid, after they realized what they did and that looting corpses of victims is PR even the RT cant spin positively they spent yesterday tracking down the looted items and put them back on the bodies, or at least in the general vicinity of the plane and their job wasnt finished yet. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
A gun shot ended the standoff between OSCE observers and rebel gunmen, Harriet Salem (@HarrietSalem) reports from the crash scene in Grabovo. The commander of the rebel unit, a man called Ilya who is known as Commander Glum, expressed annoyance as the OSCE team stood its ground, keen to access the scenes of carnage. "OSCE came here without negotiating," he shouted, as they prepared to leave. "Now there are none of our bosses here who can be in charge of making a decision, so go away, and when you negotiate this come back. "We didn’t agree to meet the OSCE here, go away," he added, firing a warning shot. The five-strong convoy departed rapidly. More intimidation than anything else. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/malaysia-airlines-crash-flight-recorder-found-as-anger-at-russia-mounts-live-updates | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On July 19 2014 02:03 Sub40APM wrote: maybe the terrorists arent stupid, after they realized what they did and that looting corpses of victims is PR even the RT cant spin positively they spent yesterday tracking down the looted items and put them back on the bodies, or at least in the general vicinity of the plane and their job wasnt finished yet. thats what it sound if i hear " they must be spies why otherwise would they fly here in war" ... god ... not even standing to what they do they wanna cover it now so far BBC rly seems the most neutral informative ressource now even with 10 dead uk citizen | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
Idk was this posted here already. Rebel buk missile system. It's missing one missile. | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On July 19 2014 02:03 Sub40APM wrote: maybe the terrorists arent stupid, after they realized what they did and that looting corpses of victims is PR even the RT cant spin positively they spent yesterday tracking down the looted items and put them back on the bodies, or at least in the general vicinity of the plane and their job wasnt finished yet. Never said they were stupid. I said they're scum. Absolutely disgusting scum. This has zero to do with "but they fight for..!", no. They don't. These are selfserving criminals, that's all there is to it. edit: above me, you should delete that - iirc, that's from a non-approved source. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On July 19 2014 02:04 Antisocialmunky wrote: More intimidation than anything else. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/18/malaysia-airlines-crash-flight-recorder-found-as-anger-at-russia-mounts-live-updates They have been wary of a covert military operation disguised as OSCE peacekeepers for a long time now. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On July 19 2014 02:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Idk was this posted here already. Rebel buk missile system. It's missing one missile. I had to pause it to find out, but in case people are wondering, counting away from us, it's the second missile that's missing. There are several pictures earlier of a buk with a full set, so one has either been removed(unlikely), or fired. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
Russian separatist groups in eastern Ukraine are hastily covering up all links to the Buk missile battery suspected to have been used to shoot down the Malaysia Airlines passenger plane, according to western-based defence and intelligence specialists. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On July 19 2014 02:06 m4ini wrote: Never said they were stupid. I said they're scum. Absolutely disgusting scum. This has zero to do with "but they fight for..!", no. They don't. These are selfserving criminals, that's all there is to it. edit: above me, you should delete that - iirc, that's from a non-approved source. I edited it. Even tho I don't think mod note forbits videos like that. + I didn't claim anything | ||
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
On July 19 2014 02:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I edited it. Even tho I don't think mod note forbits videos like that. The main problem with that video isn't the source, but the lack of verified context. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/there-was-no-one-with-a-us-passport-on-flight-mh17-administr?=2323 | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On July 19 2014 02:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I edited it. Even tho I don't think mod note forbits videos like that. + I didn't claim anything I wouldn't mind, but better be safe than sorry.  | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
President Barack Obama warned Friday of a difficult, murky and complicated investigation into the apparent downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, calling the shoot-down an "outrage of unspeakable proportions" and scolding Russia for training and equipping rebels who U.S. intelligence agencies say appear responsible for the attack. In the administration's strongest words yet on the downing of the jet, which left 298 people dead, Obama said the pro-Russian fighters couldn't have shot down Flight 17 or other Ukrainian military aircraft recently downed in the region "without sophisticated equipment and sophisticated training, and that is coming from Russia." Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/18/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-crash/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 | ||
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Shortizz
Singapore129 Posts
PS: Its stupidly ridiculous that the black box was sent to moscow for investigation. It should either have been sent back to Malaysian Airlines or a neutral party. | ||
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Enzymatic
Canada1301 Posts
On July 19 2014 02:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: So it seems the American citizen was a dual citizen of the Netherlands. http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/there-was-no-one-with-a-us-passport-on-flight-mh17-administr?=2323 What I'm wondering is if the absence of any American deaths on that flight at all weighs into the extent of which Obama is willing to involve the U.S in all of this. And if it will make him more inclined to "keep his hands clean". I'm reading that the one on board was a dual-citizen with a dutch passport, and if the absence of numerous american deaths at all factors into how much he is willing to act. | ||
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