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In order to maintain some kind of respectable thread quality and to show some respect for those who lost friends in this tragedy, we're forced to enact a hard line policy for this thread. Any posts holding an opinion on who is responsible or making an accusation that is not held by neutral media will be banned. Policy is in effect from page 27 onwards.

Specifically, citing a Ukrainian or Russian source for your claims is going to get you banned. Opinions/facts/accusations arising from neutral media sources (i.e. media whose country of origin is not Ukraine, Russia or one of its puppet states) will be permitted. This policy extends to all forms of media; if a youtube video or picture has not come through a neutral media source then don't post it or you'll be banned. If you wish to discuss this policy please use this website feedback thread.

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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
August 11 2014 07:07 GMT
#1481
On August 11 2014 05:08 Cheerio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 03:38 xM(Z wrote:
On August 11 2014 01:13 Cheerio wrote:
On August 10 2014 23:29 xM(Z wrote:

the momentum could easily be faked/driven by media outlets.
if you have demonstrations but no momentum is because the spark starters didn't have power over media channels; that shows even more that the ones who start a movement/revolution need to have some weight to begin with to be able to drive/fuel/lead such a momentum.

examples?

in the now defunct Maidan thread, there were pages upon pages of arguments and debates about the amount of people actually present there vs the ones reported by various media outlets.
hundreds vs thousands vs hundred of thousands.

So what are you saying? How many people actually participated in Euromaidan movements all over Ukraine?

i will say nothing about that.
what i will say though is that when i look at the right side of TL, at the streamers list, i'll click on the one with the highest viewership, on the stream who has more people in it. i will go there and join them because more people on a stream usually means higher quality of games and/or players.
needless to say, WinterStarcraft did tricked me.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 08:08:03
August 11 2014 08:07 GMT
#1482
On August 10 2014 23:29 xM(Z wrote:
the momentum could easily be faked/driven by media outlets.
if you have demonstrations but no momentum is because the spark starters didn't have power over media channels; that shows even more that the ones who start a movement/revolution need to have some weight to begin with to be able to drive/fuel/lead such a momentum.

lol mate, Ukraine is so incredibly corrupted, impoverished, and dysfunctional, and the people so angry about how bad they've been fucked over especially since the end of Communism into this new era, that they have all the momentum they need. Let's not even underestimate just how destitute most of the Ukrainian people are. It's very tragic. Things like that often lead to revolt.
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 09:34:39
August 11 2014 09:33 GMT
#1483
in other news, Maidan was cleaned

i really want to hear from Cheerio now how new goverment will be afraid of Maidan and will do everything right and good (already did alot of shit) or Maidan will happen and overthrow them

yeah yeah, keep dreaming
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 11 2014 09:50 GMT
#1484
In the event that there's actually something to talk about in relation to the MH17 tragedy we'll open a new thread. Have fun discussing the remainder of the Ukraine/Russia crisis in other parts of the internet!
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