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In order to maintain some kind of respectable thread quality and to show some respect for those who lost friends in this tragedy, we're forced to enact a hard line policy for this thread. Any posts holding an opinion on who is responsible or making an accusation that is not held by neutral media will be banned. Policy is in effect from page 27 onwards. Specifically, citing a Ukrainian or Russian source for your claims is going to get you banned. Opinions/facts/accusations arising from neutral media sources (i.e. media whose country of origin is not Ukraine, Russia or one of its puppet states) will be permitted. This policy extends to all forms of media; if a youtube video or picture has not come through a neutral media source then don't post it or you'll be banned. If you wish to discuss this policy please use this website feedback thread. Updated policy on aggressive posting and insults. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
On July 18 2014 23:52 whiteLotus wrote: well thats cuz hes motherfucking bin laden not some random dude who went rogue soldier Why do you think I asked 'how easy would it be', instead of just comign out and saying to do voice recognition? Get off your high horse. | ||
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
On July 18 2014 23:52 whiteLotus wrote: well thats cuz hes motherfucking bin laden not some random dude who went rogue soldier Seriously do your own research before you come in here pretending to be the authority on everything. Neither of these guys are random people. Voice analysis is actually a fairly simple thing if you have samples, so stop pretending that your knowledge of television is greater than knowledge of the real world. | ||
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whiteLotus
1833 Posts
On July 18 2014 23:57 Jormundr wrote: Seriously do your own research before you come in here pretending to be the authority on everything. Neither of these guys are random people. Voice analysis is actually a fairly simple thing if you have samples, so stop pretending that your knowledge of television is greater than knowledge of the real world. they are random people get real, they might not be random to russian services but beyond that i doubt they were on some television show like CSI Miami to give you voice samples LMAO | ||
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Bezler | ||
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
who is responsible for shooting this plane down? or there is no info on this yet? | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:01 PaleMan wrote: so i just found this thred and i have a question: who is responsible for shooting this plane down? or there is no info on this yet? Nobody knows for sure, and may never know. A lot of evidence is pointing towards the pro-Russian rebels. They have shot down Ukrainian aircraft in the recent weeks in that region. They boasted on twitter that they had downed a Ukrainian plane, before taking it down once it became known that a passenger plane had gone down. They had previously boasted that they had Buk missile systems, now they deny having them. | ||
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:01 PaleMan wrote: so i just found this thred and i have a question: who is responsible for shooting this plane down? or there is no info on this yet? what are your news channels saying? User was warned for this post | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On July 18 2014 23:50 whiteLotus wrote: no need to get mad, watch less TV  there is no super mega voice database where everyones voice is stored ,this is real life not CSI miami ))))))Not but there's very few people that's never had their voice recorded, be it voice-mail or whatever. If there's enough interest in finding it can probably be found, no one is claiming there's some secret database. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:04 nam nam wrote: Not but there's very few people that's never had their voice recorded, be it voice-mail or whatever. If there's enough interest in finding it can probably be found, no one is claiming there's some secret database. Not to mention Ukrainian intelligence and other intelligence services must have been intercepting their calls long before this event. | ||
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Jormundr
United States1678 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:05 ahswtini wrote: Not to mention Ukrainian intelligence and other intelligence services must have been intercepting their calls long before this event. And he's been the second most wanted man in Ukraine for a while, after Strelkov. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:03 ImFromPortugal wrote: what are your news channels saying? User was warned for this post They say that ukrainian army shot that plane down | ||
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:21 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: They say that ukrainian army shot that plane down actually not they say there is no information on it | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:33 PaleMan wrote: actually not they say there is no information on it Tvoi Den magazine says that Ukraine army shot it down Izvestia Daily says that this is provocation by Kiev And they both say that rebels don't have weaponry to take down plane in 10km height Their source is what rebels said to them. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14073 Posts
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:39 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Tvoi Den magazine says that Ukraine army shot it down Izvestia Daily says that this is provocation by Kiev And they both say that rebels don't have weaponry to take down plane in 10km height Their source is what rebels said to them. since when internet portals are tv news channels? | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
seeing the seperatists say it was them shooting the army aircrafts yesterday etc, makes it look like it was them (since they was the only ones shooting at aircrafts since the seperatists not have own aircrafts) until yet for me this was an "innern ukraine conflict" with russia acting a little bit strange ... now that changed alot with so many death foreign civilians and there HAS to to an NEUTRAL international control of who shoot and then there must be a huge punishment for whoever is guilty (with neutral i mean not eu or usa or russia because everyone has a side we need a comitee with all groups involved) this is NOT acceptable On July 19 2014 00:21 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: They say that ukrainian army shot that plane down rly ? here its still "no evidence" who shot it, its just everyone thinking it was the guys shooint aircrafts over the last days but i RLY hope media here keeps calm (which is hard after 4 dead germans) but i cant even imagine whats going on in the netherlands now ... PS: also i think banning people from country of this dead persons for being a bit "angry" not help anyone ... i can understand every angry dutch guy today ... | ||
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Yurie
12000 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:40 Sermokala wrote: Which there really isn't until a credible third party can come in and investigate the wreckage. How will a third party looking at the wreckage help? They will say it was hit from that angle with "this" type of missile. Both parties in the area will likely have them. | ||
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Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:01 PaleMan wrote: so i just found this thred and i have a question: who is responsible for shooting this plane down? or there is no info on this yet? Russians are. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On July 19 2014 00:41 PaleMan wrote: since when internet portals are tv news channels? Oh ye, my bad. My brains understood it wrong  /In Finland: I don't watch news realy but yesterday I watched tv news for first time in ages. Only thing they could say was that plane was crashed, most likely shot down. This was 4 hours after plane got shot down. | ||
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
sigh | ||
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