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On July 09 2014 03:06 Simberto wrote:
Time doesn't change when you are fast. The time of everything else does. So unless you are moving at a vastly different speed in relation to your meat, you will never have problems with relativistic physics. How fast you move in relation to other stuff is not relevant.
I am assuming mr freewareplayer is moving at near lightspeed next to a sizzling pan. This throws off his timing as what is 10 minutes to him is an hour to the outside world and the salmon has been cooked to carbon. This is the only reasonable explanation why 10 minutes to cook is not 10 minutes to cook for him.
On July 09 2014 02:57 freewareplayer wrote:
You dont understand it cause your either trolling or seriously close minded.
Your argument here is the same as saying: "I get my food instantly at the restaurant because i did my homework in the waiting time".
Cant even be bothered to respond to the rest or future stuff from you, before i get dragged down to full ignorance level.
This seems to be a really sensitive topic for you. Also if you go this much full retard, just make a video of your 11 minute wonder show, cause nothing else will convince people after your angry offensive and defensive post lol.
Really now? You don't see how thawing meat isn't time to be considered? Unlike say, doing your homework in the waiting time, thawing meat doesn't actually take up your time. You literally don't have to partake in any physical or mental activity. It's a piece of meat, you put it under water and leave it there. You don't have to be physically present when meat is thawing.
Time taken: approx 10 seconds. So lets make it 11m10s including washing up lol.
Seriously though, don't go flouncing off, explain it to me. I am bashing my head trying to understand why you spend hours doing exactly to the thawing meat?
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Ok you are one seriously angry kid set on arguing lol.
Once more so even you get it, not gonna respond further.
You get home at 18:00, you want to eat asap. You need to start by thawing the meat. Are you going to have your food ready and everything done at 18:11? No you wont. Fact. Thawing isnt even going to be done by that time.
Whatever you do during the thawing time does not change that this takes time. Period. Being condocending, trying to be funny, or being a keyboard warrior wont change a thing about that.
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This is stupid because even if it's objectively correct that managing everything about cooking at home isn't that much work compared to going out for fast food, it only matters what it feels like to people.
A person that feels like cooking isn't much of an effort will obviously not be going out to buy fast food. Someone else that's going for fast food every day obviously feels like cooking would be more of an effort. It's just different people.
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On July 09 2014 03:35 freewareplayer wrote:
Ok you are one seriously angry kid set on arguing lol.
Once more so even you get it, not gonna respond further.
You get home at 18:00, you want to eat asap. You need to start by thawing the meat. Are you going to have your food ready and everything done at 18:11? No you wont. Fact. Thawing isnt even going to be done by that time.
Whatever you do during the thawing time does not change that this takes time. Period. Being condocending, trying to be funny, or being a keyboard warrior wont change a thing about that.
so plan your meals ahead of time? put your meat in the fridge it'll thaw and be fine by dinner time. Jesus christ you guys are ridiculous i cant even read it all without getting a headache
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Yeah mr freeware player instead of arguing, I will just call the the other person names lol. Excellent.
Seriously, my head hurts. You got several options:
Option 1: You wake up 10 seconds earlier in the morning. 20 seconds earlier so you can wash your hands with plenty of time to spare.
Option 2: You open your fridge and look at expiration dates, becuase you didn't slap everything you brought into the freezer. You cook whatever meat you have available in the fridge. Or crack some eggs open.
Option 3: You order a takeaway. Because you cook 7 days a week, so why not take a break and eat something you didn't cook for once? Wait, that doesn't describe you, you eat fast food every day lol.
Option 4: You always slap everything you brought into the freezer for some god forsaken reason, and for 30 days running you forgot to defrost the meat. Every single day. You start to apply common sense to your daily routine.
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On July 09 2014 04:16 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 03:35 freewareplayer wrote:
Ok you are one seriously angry kid set on arguing lol.
Once more so even you get it, not gonna respond further.
You get home at 18:00, you want to eat asap. You need to start by thawing the meat. Are you going to have your food ready and everything done at 18:11? No you wont. Fact. Thawing isnt even going to be done by that time.
Whatever you do during the thawing time does not change that this takes time. Period. Being condocending, trying to be funny, or being a keyboard warrior wont change a thing about that.
so plan your meals ahead of time? put your meat in the fridge it'll thaw and be fine by dinner time. Jesus christ you guys are ridiculous i cant even read it all without getting a headache
So what's your explanation why people exist that eat fast food every day?
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On July 09 2014 04:30 Ropid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 04:16 PanN wrote:On July 09 2014 03:35 freewareplayer wrote:
Ok you are one seriously angry kid set on arguing lol.
Once more so even you get it, not gonna respond further.
You get home at 18:00, you want to eat asap. You need to start by thawing the meat. Are you going to have your food ready and everything done at 18:11? No you wont. Fact. Thawing isnt even going to be done by that time.
Whatever you do during the thawing time does not change that this takes time. Period. Being condocending, trying to be funny, or being a keyboard warrior wont change a thing about that.
so plan your meals ahead of time? put your meat in the fridge it'll thaw and be fine by dinner time. Jesus christ you guys are ridiculous i cant even read it all without getting a headache So what's your explanation why people exist that eat fast food every day?
Unwillingness to cook by themselves.
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People like freewareplayer who doesn't understand the concept of that you can either not put everything in the freezer, or defrost meat before you set out for work.
Because cooking a meal takes hours apparently!
And is more expensive somehow!
And taste worse somehow!
If you say that you are lazy or ignorant I can understand that.
Sometimes, you don't feel like cooking. If somebody said they simply have never been taught how to fry an egg, or make a sandwich, it is beleivable.
But when you argue that fast food taste better, that is is more expensive by comparing salmon with pig slop, and that it takes shit loads of time to cook because of the defrosting time, it is just mind blowingly unbeleivable; it is no longer laziness or ignorance, it is just ... I have no idea, it is just a WTF.
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On July 08 2014 20:21 r00ty wrote:
IMHO: Is it so hard to understand, that there's no magic formula for weight loss? There is no trick or super easy way. Stop wasting money and time searching for it.
Stop eating too much shit, move your ass and get some discipline (concerning eating habits), because it's not going to be easy! From my personal experience the most important factor is being honest to yourself. How much do you really eat/burn a day? Basically all people i know, who complain about being overweight are lying to themselves concerning their eating habits. If you really can't control it, get help!
Apart from not finding it attractive personally i got no problems with overweight people. You're free to do whatever you want with your body as far as i'm concerned. Just don't whine about it, if you don't have certain diseases, genetic or mental disorders. Which, but the latter, are basically irrelevant in the discussion. They just aren't a factor numbers wise.
Hat of for you sire! same thing im telling ppl.
running or doing somthing physically after work can be very boring after a hard days work(1hour or 40 min is enuff) for you, eat healthy is not enuff eating good and healthy and excersice is the forumula especially if you have bad "ämnesomsättning" in swedish i dont know the english word for it.
just like everything in life, one choice dont make a diffrence multiple decisions have impact.
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On July 09 2014 00:02 tertos wrote:
I wonder how many people in this thread consider themselves overweight.
I don't consider obesity a global issue. Obesity is an individual issue. Why should I be concerned for someone else lack of self-discipline?
I'm not the one with increased chance of hearth failure, stroke, bone structure degradation and so on.
Here's the irony for me. I am not, well maybe slightly as I'm getting older, but not by much. My parents however, were. My mother had acquired diabetes and obesity. The difference is, they were much more conscious and responsible than I am. They followed all of the latest diet fads, my mother was Betty Crocker, yet none of that effort had any effect. It certainly is nowhere even close to the caricatures people are offering here. It's very hard for me to relate to much of what many are saying when this topic comes up, and it usually just ends up turning circular- but sometimes bears fruit. The videos that turned up from the last thread seem logical and plausible, for example.
Why do I care to bother about obesity then? Partly for philosophical issues and principle (see: Martin Niemöller ) and partly because I believe it could and does affect me. I don't think I am immune to acquiring diabetes as I get older, which could lead to weight problems. I also think there are problems with nutrition that affects overall health even without being obese.
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I am often having different conversations with friends on how much consensus is there among men on the issue of thinness in women. When someone tells me they don't find thin women the most attractive I find it extremely hard to believe, like they have issues or something. Has everyone met any scientific research on the matter?
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What you want to do is to marry a fit women. Thin women are pretty much useless in terms of housekeeping and childbearing. But a women with relative strong hip and legs are healthy enough to engage in such activities. That's men's primitive evolutionary sense at work telling us to go for the healthy and fit type of girls instead of the twigs.
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Also, the definition of thin might be relevant for the discussion. I personally find a woman who looks like a skeleton not too attractive. On the other hand, if she looks like a sphere that is also not for me. If it is somewhere in between the extremes, i care a lot more about other features, specifically a pretty face.
Not going to go into the whole personality thing which is obviously also very important, just pure physical attractiveness all other factors being the same.
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On July 14 2014 22:26 Xiphos wrote:
What you want to do is to marry a fit women. Thin women are pretty much useless in terms of housekeeping and childbearing.
Choose your wife depending on how useful you think she will be at housekeeping and childbearing lol.
Anyhow that aside, "thin" is relative. What is "thin"? You aren't exactly giving dimensions to estimate what you mean by thin. Every person has different preferences. Most adult males (as opposed to teenagers or younger) prefer women with what would be considered significant amounts of fat by most women who look at fashion magazines. Of course there could be cultural bias. Perhaps the average male has been fed images from various modelling industries which then would form the preference of the majority adult male, but I would consider that unlikely.
Personally, I would consider lingerie or swimwear models to have the ideal bodies. The type of models you would see on billboards advertising lingerie and swimwear for women for high street or department stores. If you don't now what I am talkign about, there are probably plenty of examples to peruse in the internet. Would those models be considered thin to most people? No, but they would be considered to be not fat either.
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By thin I personally mean low fat. Isn't that standard?
On July 14 2014 23:24 Dangermousecatdog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 22:26 Xiphos wrote:
What you want to do is to marry a fit women. Thin women are pretty much useless in terms of housekeeping and childbearing. Anyhow that aside, "thin" is relative. What is "thin"? You aren't exactly giving dimensions to estimate what you mean by thin. Every person has different preferences. Most adult males (as opposed to teenagers or younger) prefer women with what would be considered significant amounts of fat by most women who look at fashion magazines. Of course there could be cultural bias. Perhaps the average male has been fed images from various modelling industries which then would form the preference of the majority adult male, but I would consider that unlikely. Personally, I would consider lingerie or swimwear models to have the ideal bodies. The type of models you would see on billboards advertising lingerie and swimwear for women for high street or department stores. If you don't now what I am talkign about, there are probably plenty of examples to peruse in the internet. Would those models be considered thin to most people? No, but they would be considered to be not fat either.
That's exactly what I'm asking about. Is there any kind of research about how many men prefer this and how many men prefer that?
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That still doesn't describe anything in particular lol. What does "low fat" mean to you?
Edit:: What is standard? Everything is relative. What does your "low fat" relative to? The average woman? The average changes according to perception. Different countries have different women. What is average in one country is fat or thin in another.
You are basically using personal perspective as a baseline for comparison. Sorry to say, we simply dont know what your personal perspective mean. What is "thin" or "lowfat" to you? It's probably different from what I would regard as either. It's like describing a warm or hot place. We simply can't know what you mean by it.
Edit again: Stop changing your posts pls. If you want to reply, just press reply instead of making me seem like someone who can't reply to a post. Who knows if there is a study. Probably there's been several, but eveyone is different. My personal preference and the general preference of those I have talked to are just that.
If you find stick thin women as thin as runway models the most attractive, then that's just your preference. You don't have to feel insecure about it, questioning if other people are lying to you and if they have issues or something.
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ok, bmi < 25. Are you happy now?
Anyway my standards are irrelevant. I'm asking for a credible research on the subject. Whatever their standards are, I'm willing to accept those.
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Even if absolutely nothing was changing with respect to diet and exercise habits, rates of obesity would still be going up given that we're getting better and better at treating its sequelae (obesity, hypertension, MIs, strokes, CAD, PVD, diabetes, etc.). This is especially true on a global scale.
I wish more research would take into account that we're getting better at preventing death from the complications of obesity. That'd have to take thought and make your study less exciting, though, so no wonder it doesn't get much airtime.
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On July 14 2014 23:41 Cheerio wrote:
ok, bmi < 25. Are you happy now?
Anyway my standards are irrelevant. I'm asking for a credible research on the subject. Whatever their standards are, I'm willing to accept those.
You kind of proved his point with that. 25?
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I know people are uneasy or even ashamed of being thin these days:
"Oh, you're sick!"
"Oh, you're feeding into an unrealistic self image that nobody but movie stars can actually have, plus they do so much photoshop!".
"Oh, you're fat shaming!"
I'm proud to be only 160 lbs and I exercise not only to change my physical appearance from the stocky triangle-legs shape into the lean legged thin shape. I do it because it universally looks better and I feel better about myself. We should have thin pride much as gay pride. Gay pride doesn't shame straight people, people who want to be thin or keep themselves looking good shouldn't be ridiculed or told they're feeding into unrealistic expectations. People used to look thin before high calorie high sugar food was so easy to obtain and in basically everything. Also, Buffets. Yes, I still do the whole gluttonous gorge yourself on food thing once in a long while, but I generally eat small portions because after not eating much for a long while your body eventually begins to recognize when you're full from the proper amount of food, again.
I do feel bad about people that have glandular or metabolic issues though. I personally know a girl who used to be about 280+lb and ate nothing all the time, and finally recently got a doctor to prescribe a proper medication and the lbs are melting off.
Obesity and being fat having such a big growth can probably be traced to epigenetics because earlier generations had more food and ability to get food and overindulge than ever before. Overweight in the old days was a sign of wealth because it meant you could afford all that tasty shit all the time. Lots of factors at play for obesity epidemic.
On July 16 2014 01:24 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Even if absolutely nothing was changing with respect to diet and exercise habits, rates of obesity would still be going up given that we're getting better and better at treating its sequelae (obesity, hypertension, MIs, strokes, CAD, PVD, diabetes, etc.). This is especially true on a global scale.
I wish more research would take into account that we're getting better at preventing death from the complications of obesity. That'd have to take thought and make your study less exciting, though, so no wonder it doesn't get much airtime.
When people were less sedentary, they could live long while being obese. Have you seen the armor of one of the Kings of England, is it Henry 8th? I forget which but he was definitely obese. His plate armor protrudes about a foot and a half at the belly area.
Obesity =/= morbid obesity which kills you soon.
On July 14 2014 23:24 Dangermousecatdog wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2014 22:26 Xiphos wrote:
What you want to do is to marry a fit women. Thin women are pretty much useless in terms of housekeeping and childbearing. Choose your wife depending on how useful you think she will be at housekeeping and childbearing lol. Anyhow that aside, "thin" is relative. What is "thin"? You aren't exactly giving dimensions to estimate what you mean by thin. Every person has different preferences. Most adult males (as opposed to teenagers or younger) prefer women with what would be considered significant amounts of fat by most women who look at fashion magazines. Of course there could be cultural bias. Perhaps the average male has been fed images from various modelling industries which then would form the preference of the majority adult male, but I would consider that unlikely. Personally, I would consider lingerie or swimwear models to have the ideal bodies. The type of models you would see on billboards advertising lingerie and swimwear for women for high street or department stores. If you don't now what I am talkign about, there are probably plenty of examples to peruse in the internet. Would those models be considered thin to most people? No, but they would be considered to be not fat either.
I call bullshit on that. Also, "fed images" go both ways. If we push hard to shame males for liking thin or petite women, for various reasons, then they'll "Chubby chase" to be socially accepted. What would you say if I said my ideal girl in only physical terms would be 5'2-5'5 with thin legs and a narrow gut area with some decent hips and thus is likely not to have large breasts? Im sure the things that people would say might scare a guy into picking a chubby. I've heard it and seen it all before. The interesting or funny thing is that researchers are attempting to show correlation to genetics and your choice of friends now. This would obviously extend further to S.O. relations as well, so as superficial as people appear for their choices, inevitably they'll choose the type of people that they find attractive regardless of any physical constraints.
On July 09 2014 05:24 FuzioNda1337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 20:21 r00ty wrote:
IMHO: Is it so hard to understand, that there's no magic formula for weight loss? There is no trick or super easy way. Stop wasting money and time searching for it.
Stop eating too much shit, move your ass and get some discipline (concerning eating habits), because it's not going to be easy! From my personal experience the most important factor is being honest to yourself. How much do you really eat/burn a day? Basically all people i know, who complain about being overweight are lying to themselves concerning their eating habits. If you really can't control it, get help!
Apart from not finding it attractive personally i got no problems with overweight people. You're free to do whatever you want with your body as far as i'm concerned. Just don't whine about it, if you don't have certain diseases, genetic or mental disorders. Which, but the latter, are basically irrelevant in the discussion. They just aren't a factor numbers wise. Hat of for you sire! same thing im telling ppl. running or doing somthing physically after work can be very boring after a hard days work(1hour or 40 min is enuff) for you, eat healthy is not enuff eating good and healthy and excersice is the forumula especially if you have bad "ämnesomsättning" in swedish i dont know the english word for it. just like everything in life, one choice dont make a diffrence multiple decisions have impact.
Not really. If you have a 10-12 mile job, a bicycle to work can improve your health dramatically and squeeze your exercise routine into an area that you'd already be spending time doing.
Do things more efficiently. Bruce Lee would park on the highest level of a parking complex or farthest from the destination in a lot in order to get more walking in his daily routine. There's so many ways people can squeeze movement activities into their daily lives.
Also, I'd look up Superbetter TED talk. There's some things you can do sitting at the desk right now to improve your health that only takes a few moments. People need to do the isometric stretching that comes naturally to all animals more often imo.
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