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Acrofales
Spain18216 Posts
On December 12 2018 20:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: I'm confused if she has comfortable confidence in votes to remain PM, how was a no confidence vote called? Takes 15% to call the vote. Takes 50% + 1 to win it. | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On December 12 2018 20:54 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: I'm confused if she has comfortable confidence in votes to remain PM, how was a no confidence vote called? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOacA3RYrXk It’s a confidence vote from conservative MPs in her leadership of the party, once 15% have sent a letter of no confidence a vote must take place this is not the same as a parliamentary vote of confidence and 15% is well short of 50% | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9770 Posts
On December 12 2018 22:18 ahswtini wrote: keep in mind that even if she wins it, if it's only by a slim majority, there will still be much pressure on her to resign. that's what happened to thatcher, she fought off an initial leadership challenge bid, but ended up resigning anyway under pressure from her cabinet. the tory leadership contest system was different back then. however, given how stubborn theresa may as been, i think the only thing that will take her down is a straight up defeat in the vote. She'd probably run off with the mace of queenly magic and hide it in a wheatfield until everyone let her come back and be PM again. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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KwarK
United States43582 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11749 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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MoonfireSpam
United Kingdom1153 Posts
On December 11 2018 16:42 Melliflue wrote: A few counter points. Firstly "the people" changes over time. Some people die, and others become old enough to vote. The will of the people in 2016 is not necessarily the will of the people in 2019. (The former head of YouGov said demographic changes could give a different referendum result by as early as January 2019.) Secondly, the official Vote Leave campaign and the unofficial Leave.EU campaign broke campaign laws. Why is it acceptable to let an unfair referendum permanently decide the matter? I think the biggest problem is "People" voted on an ideology. There is a possibility that now "People" have seen that their ideology is in this case unattanable without having to chow down on a whole load of shit and decided that their pension or job is worth more than their ideological dreams. Regarding the "Vote of no Confidence" it's just a bunch of blowhards without ideas or real ambition kicking up a fuss. Prime example being: "But does he want the top job? Asked immediately after saying he had submitted his letter to depose May, Rees-Mogg said he would not be putting himself forward for the job. " Source + Show Spoiler + | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
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Garrl
Scotland1975 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On December 13 2018 06:04 Zaros wrote: 36% of her own MPs dont want her even after saying she wont stay for the next election, worst kind of result for everyone. Worst result for everyone is Brexit. Who is PM at the time is irrelevant to that. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On December 13 2018 00:46 Plansix wrote: It sounds like there is a minority within conservatives who want hold the vote of no confidence and more than know voting to support May when the vote happens will make their supporters super angry. As an American, I can sympathize with being held hostage by an unreasonable minority of the population who wants their cake and to eat it too. The Tories have gone full Tea Party over Brexit. There's a bunch of them who have no fucking idea what they're talking about but are absolutely convinced that clapping their hands hard enough and making believe will bring the shiny future they convinced themselves existed by reading the Daily Mail long enough. Mogg calling for May to resign is typical stupidity from that wing of the party. Like, what the fuck do they think is going to happen if May resigns, leaving us with no PM for several months leading directly into Brexit? But right now it's scalp, scalp, scalp so 'someone' is taking responsibility for it all. I think the problem is they're used to shooting the leader to redeem the sins of the party, but right now the public want the party to sort its shit out and get this done, so they're taking collective blame. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22094 Posts
On December 13 2018 06:24 iamthedave wrote: The Brexit they want to happen (hard exit) happens and yet they can still shove away all guilt by claiming they would have done it differently.The Tories have gone full Tea Party over Brexit. There's a bunch of them who have no fucking idea what they're talking about but are absolutely convinced that clapping their hands hard enough and making believe will bring the shiny future they convinced themselves existed by reading the Daily Mail long enough. Mogg calling for May to resign is typical stupidity from that wing of the party. Like, what the fuck do they think is going to happen if May resigns, leaving us with no PM for several months leading directly into Brexit? | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
Mogg calling for May to resign is typical stupidity from that wing of the party. Like, what the fuck do they think is going to happen if May resigns, leaving us with no PM for several months leading directly into Brexit? Basically exactly what they want, is gonna happen. | ||
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MoonfireSpam
United Kingdom1153 Posts
Now lets get back to burning our own economy down. | ||
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Razyda
901 Posts
On December 13 2018 06:06 Zaros wrote: Jacob Rees Mogg calling for her to resign saying 117 out of 170 backbench MPs dont support her, mostly only the government payroll vote supporting her. edit: https://twitter.com/HughRBennett/status/1072961705326641162 So 64% to 36% win is not enough to keep status quo, but 52% to 48% is enough to change it  . | ||
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