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The gun control argument stops now. I know it's fun to argue about it in the heat of the tragedy when you can get all worked up about it but it's pretty disrespectful and if you don't care enough about the issue to make a separate topic for gun control then you don't care enough to shit on the tragedy by exploiting it. A gun control topic can be found here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=313472Also stop posting links to his facebook. TL will be no part of an unconfirmed witch hunt. |
Its an absolute tragedy.
Unfortunately America this will continue until your gun laws change.
The last mass murder due to guns in Australia was in 1996 where 35 people were killed and another 25 wounded. Since then gun laws in Australia were drastically changed and there are rarely to never any mass murders excluding those associated with organized crime, even those are typically 2-3 at the most.
It's certainly a sad thing that occurred but unfortunately this will not be the last time a gun massacre occurs in your country, and its very tragic.
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We as a society should do more to recognize and help people who have mental illnesses to prevent things like this in the future.
unless you live there it is not like it affects you at all.
Here is a potential sign by the way. Absence of empathy.
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Holy fuck... I used to live in Newtown... RIP. 
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On December 15 2012 07:17 IronManSC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 07:13 Aulisemia wrote:
1.8 people die worldwide every second. Never understood the sensationalism behind things like this - tragic for the people involved, but unless you live there it is not like it affects you at all. Do you have kids? I don't and I had tears for this tragedy. It affects many parents in the U.S. who love their children dearly. In the last hour I have seen several women on my facebook stating that they were going to homeschool their kids from now on.
The " I'm going to homeschool my kids " is something I'm hearing a lot from my friends too after this, they are shocked to find out that it can happen anywhere in the country and school's are not safe havens for children. I don't blame them I would likely do the same thing.
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On December 15 2012 07:13 Aulisemia wrote:
1.8 people die worldwide every second. Never understood the sensationalism behind things like this - tragic for the people involved, but unless you live there it is not like it affects you at all.
Are you fucking serious?
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It gives me a little hope and comfort to see a bunch of people gang up on a potential sociopath on the last page.
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On December 15 2012 07:06 ECHOZs wrote:
"We ask why there's violence in our schools, but we've systematically removed God from our schools." -Mike Huckabee
No words for the stupidity.
Mike Huckabee, that's the mousetrap-guy isn't it?
Talking of mental illness... At least he isn't shooting anyone.
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Apparently the mother was killed in the home now. CNN and other media outlets looking really bad now.
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On December 15 2012 07:25 LoLAdriankat wrote:
It gives me a little hope and comfort to see a bunch of people gang up on a potential sociopath on the last page.
Getting angry at people is often a crucial social cue to inform someone that their behavior is undesired or wrong. It is useful for most people, but for true sociopaths it won't have much effect except perhaps to isolate further. One man's medicine is another's poison sometimes.
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On December 15 2012 03:14 sLideSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 03:10 farvacola wrote:
Don't worry, I expect the NRA and fellow gun folk will again loudly yell against anyone who even mentions the possibility that gun control laxity played a role in this amongst others acts of fatal violence. I do wonder how mainstay these sorts of shootings will have to become before public opinion starts to change. And before the requisite "You so stupid, how would taking away guns fix this?" pops up, it's not about "taking away guns", it's about making them more difficult to acquire, because the fact of the matter is that getting guns in the states is incredibly simple and far too easy. My thoughts go out to the families, this sucks. Yes, but someone who is willing to go to the extreme of murdering 18 kids is also very willing to go to a far lesser extreme of obtaining a gun illegally or going through a longer process legally.
the guy didn't set out to fill a kill order or something. he wanted to do something extraordinary, violent, spiteful, etc. having ready access to guns enables this into action. (not a gun control argument, just saying that the mental probleml underlying the case is less about killing than about the guy himself)
looks like this sort of thing is increasing in frequency though. something has to give.
guns are whatever. you get crazy kids doing this stuff for self affirmation against the world. see that guy with the long suicide note.
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On December 15 2012 07:26 AgentW wrote:
Apparently the mother was killed in the home now. CNN and other media outlets looking really bad now.
Advice for the thread:
Turn off your televisions and wait for tomorrow afternoon to know what actually happened.
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On December 15 2012 07:26 AgentW wrote:
Apparently the mother was killed in the home now. CNN and other media outlets looking really bad now.
What?
Jesus Christ that changes the story so much.
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On December 15 2012 07:26 AgentW wrote:
Apparently the mother was killed in the home now. CNN and other media outlets looking really bad now.
Most of the stuff I've been watching or reading prefaces things with "sources say". Which seems fine to me, they are just reporting on what they've been told which may be inaccurate in the first place, or there was an error in communication between different levels of the reporting outlet going from source to journalist to editor back to journalist etc.
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Words are not enough at a time like this.
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On December 15 2012 07:27 smfd wrote:
i agree with Huckabee
You think that the more God there is in a building the safer your children are? Some choir boys would disagree with that.
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Really wish this sort of thing wasn't posted until everything had been cleared up, the brother of the shooters life has just been ruined even more thanks to the various media outlets and people contemplating a shooting will have all the evidence they need that they will be remembered.
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I feel so sad for the families that are going to be spending the holidays without their kids. It's so sad to think that they might have had trips planned out and now they have to cancel everything and plan a funeral. Sad news indeed.
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Obviously a terrible tragedy, and my sympathy goes to the families.
Was working at my former elementary school when I heard the news. Principal's even called my brother in to up security at the front desk. Even though there's likely nothing to worry about for us, we're taking it seriously, and I pray this doesn't happen again.
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On December 15 2012 07:17 IronManSC wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 07:13 Aulisemia wrote:
1.8 people die worldwide every second. Never understood the sensationalism behind things like this - tragic for the people involved, but unless you live there it is not like it affects you at all. Do you have kids? I don't and I had tears for this tragedy. It affects many parents in the U.S. who love their children dearly. In the last hour I have seen several women on my facebook stating that they were going to homeschool their kids from now on.
I totally agree with Aulisemia. It is tragic and sad but it does not affect me, like it should not affect anyone here unless you are personally related with the people or city of Newtown.
You had tears ? You cried ? You must cry every time you read the news. Just for example, over 44 thousands civillians died so far in the Syrian civial war. Did you cry for all of them ? What about people in Gaza and Central Africa ? What about people who are born with HIV and die of hunger, do you also cry for them ?
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