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On November 23 2012 23:57 lahara wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 23:55 radscorpion9 wrote:On November 23 2012 23:40 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 23:31 zalz wrote:On November 23 2012 23:24 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 23:21 mcc wrote:On November 23 2012 22:54 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 22:38 Hairy wrote:On November 23 2012 22:32 shadymmj wrote:
while i don't support sending gays to jail, i'm actually in favour of discouraging gay pride and all that nonsense. some cultures find it offensive, i find it offensive... I would be MOST interested to hear your reasoning behind this. well i thinnk people shouild just stop making a thing out of it at all. theres no straight parades where we rub our straightness into gay peoples faces... so they shouldnt go around habing gay parade which in my opinion not only serve the purpose of clebration but are alos intended to provoke as many gay people especially younger ones enjoy the breaking of a tabu or whatever. And that is a problem that warrants banning them why ? i neevr said it should be stopped. i personally dont see the use in them so i think people should stop doing these paardes especiall yif others get offended. celebrate your homosexuality in private. if they dont want to stop well then people wil just get offended and its just too bad. i never said anything about bannning the parades . l2r liquidlahara Homosexuals used to hide their sexuality. People like you kept drafting their names on lists and publishing them in the newspaper so they would get fired. Historic record shows that when homosexuals don't flaunt anything, they are still targetted. lol people like me? way to go overboard :D. all i say is that since some people take offense hthey might wanna reconsider having parades celebrating their sexuality which people are either indifferent to or take offense at. i just dont see the point. i dont have a problem with homosexuals but i just dont see why they need gay paardes when i dont need a straight parade But you're ignoring the positive things that come out of the parade. One of the major reasons for having it is to help other gay people come out and be proud of their orientation rather than live in shame from the social stigma associated with being gay in many countries, including first world countries. In general you should avoid offending people if possible, but what they're doing has very important positive consequences; it helps people escape from the psychological torment of suppressing their own sexuality. Clearly you shouldn't say that not offending extremely religious people is more important. Secondly you have to draw the line at what should be considered offensive and what not...like what group of people do you want to respect and take seriously. Would you avoid offending neo-nazis by supporting democratic, non-racist policies? Would you avoid offending religious preachers by supporting the teaching of evolution in schools? Now if you're talking specifically about Uganda, then you're offending a lot more people and that needs to be taken into account. In that case, just ask yourself objectively whether the striving towards a culture that accepts gays and teaches them that its okay to be whatever orientation they are is something which is more important than offending a group of hardcore Christians (and as pointed out in this thread, many of whom have been the target of ridiculous propaganda about the evilness of gays). there is nothing about being gay ot take pride in just like i dont take pride in being hetero. either youre gay or youre not nothing to be proud of. its like saying ure proud to be a dude or poroud to be a girl
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They need them because there is active pressure and the very real threat that their rights as individuals could be taken away at any minute, and also that in many parts of the world their rights are still not considered a given - for example in Uganda which is the center of the discussion. They are still very much actively fighting for their own rights as well as the rights of other human beings. The "Gay" rights parades also preach the values of sexual tolerance which isn't exclusive to just homosexuality, it also includes the rights of transexuals, bi-sexuals, etc, (note that this includes those who are just born into the world with a genetic rarity and could do nothing about it) which emcompasses a larger group than the majority of those taking part in the parade.
This response was posted above and you cherry pick a largely ineffectual response.
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USA has laws that are even WORSTE than this. Here in America you can be sentenced to MANY years in prison just for deciding to grow a garden of certain types of plants. Wat's worste growing plants or promoting homosexuality, which is anti-christian and it just itsn't natural lol. Wake up people you're being brainwashed here.
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On November 24 2012 00:08 [3S]Green wrote:
USA has laws that are even WORSTE than this. Here in America you can be sentenced to MANY years in prison just for deciding to grow a garden of certain types of plants. Wat's worste growing plants or promoting homosexuality, which is anti-christian and it just itsn't natural lol. Wake up people you're being brainwashed here.
Oh don't start with that, in alot (if not all) countries it's also illegal to grow plants that produce heroin or scopolamine for the purpose of creating a drug, marijuana doesn't warrant a special status, every case has to be judged on its own merits.
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On November 24 2012 00:08 [3S]Green wrote:
USA has laws that are even WORSTE than this. Here in America you can be sentenced to MANY years in prison just for deciding to grow a garden of certain types of plants. Wat's worste growing plants or promoting homosexuality, which is anti-christian and it just itsn't natural lol. Wake up people you're being brainwashed here.
By the definition of natural, as in occurring in nature, homosexuality is perfectly natural, since it is present in a great many species.
This naturalistic argument is also rather silly, because very little of what humans do is natural.
Having a conversation via the internet on a Starcraft 2 forum, not very natural.
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On November 24 2012 00:03 plogamer wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2012 23:57 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 23:55 radscorpion9 wrote:On November 23 2012 23:40 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 23:31 zalz wrote:On November 23 2012 23:24 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 23:21 mcc wrote:On November 23 2012 22:54 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 22:38 Hairy wrote:On November 23 2012 22:32 shadymmj wrote:
while i don't support sending gays to jail, i'm actually in favour of discouraging gay pride and all that nonsense. some cultures find it offensive, i find it offensive... I would be MOST interested to hear your reasoning behind this. well i thinnk people shouild just stop making a thing out of it at all. theres no straight parades where we rub our straightness into gay peoples faces... so they shouldnt go around habing gay parade which in my opinion not only serve the purpose of clebration but are alos intended to provoke as many gay people especially younger ones enjoy the breaking of a tabu or whatever. And that is a problem that warrants banning them why ? i neevr said it should be stopped. i personally dont see the use in them so i think people should stop doing these paardes especiall yif others get offended. celebrate your homosexuality in private. if they dont want to stop well then people wil just get offended and its just too bad. i never said anything about bannning the parades . l2r liquidlahara Homosexuals used to hide their sexuality. People like you kept drafting their names on lists and publishing them in the newspaper so they would get fired. Historic record shows that when homosexuals don't flaunt anything, they are still targetted. lol people like me? way to go overboard :D. all i say is that since some people take offense hthey might wanna reconsider having parades celebrating their sexuality which people are either indifferent to or take offense at. i just dont see the point. i dont have a problem with homosexuals but i just dont see why they need gay paardes when i dont need a straight parade But you're ignoring the positive things that come out of the parade. One of the major reasons for having it is to help other gay people come out and be proud of their orientation rather than live in shame from the social stigma associated with being gay in many countries, including first world countries. In general you should avoid offending people if possible, but what they're doing has very important positive consequences; it helps people escape from the psychological torment of suppressing their own sexuality. Clearly you shouldn't say that not offending extremely religious people is more important. Secondly you have to draw the line at what should be considered offensive and what not...like what group of people do you want to respect and take seriously. Would you avoid offending neo-nazis by supporting democratic, non-racist policies? Would you avoid offending religious preachers by supporting the teaching of evolution in schools? Now if you're talking specifically about Uganda, then you're offending a lot more people and that needs to be taken into account. In that case, just ask yourself objectively whether the striving towards a culture that accepts gays and teaches them that its okay to be whatever orientation they are is something which is more important than offending a group of hardcore Christians (and as pointed out in this thread, many of whom have been the target of ridiculous propaganda about the evilness of gays). there is nothing about being gay ot take pride in just like i dont take pride in being hetero. either youre gay or youre not nothing to be proud of. its like saying ure proud to be a dude or poroud to be a girl http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383750¤tpage=4#68Show nested quote +
They need them because there is active pressure and the very real threat that their rights as individuals could be taken away at any minute, and also that in many parts of the world their rights are still not considered a given - for example in Uganda which is the center of the discussion. They are still very much actively fighting for their own rights as well as the rights of other human beings. The "Gay" rights parades also preach the values of sexual tolerance which isn't exclusive to just homosexuality, it also includes the rights of transexuals, bi-sexuals, etc, (note that this includes those who are just born into the world with a genetic rarity and could do nothing about it) which emcompasses a larger group than the majority of those taking part in the parade.
This response was posted above and you cherry pick a largely ineffectual response.
well i think their rights shouldnt be endangered and they shouldnt paarade end of story. their parades howevere in spite of being unnecessary should not be banned. i say unnecessary because in countries where homosexual rights are severely threatened parading would be suicidal in the first place
gg wp
liquidlahara
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On November 24 2012 00:08 [3S]Green wrote:
USA has laws that are even WORSTE than this. Here in America you can be sentenced to MANY years in prison just for deciding to grow a garden of certain types of plants. Wat's worste growing plants or promoting homosexuality, which is anti-christian and it just itsn't natural lol. Wake up people you're being brainwashed here.
Yes, being homosexual which you are born with compared to growing plants to produce drugs, which is completely voluntary action. Of course it is more important to protect gay rights than drug-producer rights. And it is natural, it is not normal (as in common), but homosexuality is natural 
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On November 24 2012 00:15 lahara wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 00:03 plogamer wrote:On November 23 2012 23:57 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 23:55 radscorpion9 wrote:On November 23 2012 23:40 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 23:31 zalz wrote:On November 23 2012 23:24 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 23:21 mcc wrote:On November 23 2012 22:54 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 22:38 Hairy wrote:
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I would be MOST interested to hear your reasoning behind this. well i thinnk people shouild just stop making a thing out of it at all. theres no straight parades where we rub our straightness into gay peoples faces... so they shouldnt go around habing gay parade which in my opinion not only serve the purpose of clebration but are alos intended to provoke as many gay people especially younger ones enjoy the breaking of a tabu or whatever. And that is a problem that warrants banning them why ? i neevr said it should be stopped. i personally dont see the use in them so i think people should stop doing these paardes especiall yif others get offended. celebrate your homosexuality in private. if they dont want to stop well then people wil just get offended and its just too bad. i never said anything about bannning the parades . l2r liquidlahara Homosexuals used to hide their sexuality. People like you kept drafting their names on lists and publishing them in the newspaper so they would get fired. Historic record shows that when homosexuals don't flaunt anything, they are still targetted. lol people like me? way to go overboard :D. all i say is that since some people take offense hthey might wanna reconsider having parades celebrating their sexuality which people are either indifferent to or take offense at. i just dont see the point. i dont have a problem with homosexuals but i just dont see why they need gay paardes when i dont need a straight parade But you're ignoring the positive things that come out of the parade. One of the major reasons for having it is to help other gay people come out and be proud of their orientation rather than live in shame from the social stigma associated with being gay in many countries, including first world countries. In general you should avoid offending people if possible, but what they're doing has very important positive consequences; it helps people escape from the psychological torment of suppressing their own sexuality. Clearly you shouldn't say that not offending extremely religious people is more important. Secondly you have to draw the line at what should be considered offensive and what not...like what group of people do you want to respect and take seriously. Would you avoid offending neo-nazis by supporting democratic, non-racist policies? Would you avoid offending religious preachers by supporting the teaching of evolution in schools? Now if you're talking specifically about Uganda, then you're offending a lot more people and that needs to be taken into account. In that case, just ask yourself objectively whether the striving towards a culture that accepts gays and teaches them that its okay to be whatever orientation they are is something which is more important than offending a group of hardcore Christians (and as pointed out in this thread, many of whom have been the target of ridiculous propaganda about the evilness of gays). there is nothing about being gay ot take pride in just like i dont take pride in being hetero. either youre gay or youre not nothing to be proud of. its like saying ure proud to be a dude or poroud to be a girl http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383750¤tpage=4#68
They need them because there is active pressure and the very real threat that their rights as individuals could be taken away at any minute, and also that in many parts of the world their rights are still not considered a given - for example in Uganda which is the center of the discussion. They are still very much actively fighting for their own rights as well as the rights of other human beings. The "Gay" rights parades also preach the values of sexual tolerance which isn't exclusive to just homosexuality, it also includes the rights of transexuals, bi-sexuals, etc, (note that this includes those who are just born into the world with a genetic rarity and could do nothing about it) which emcompasses a larger group than the majority of those taking part in the parade.
This response was posted above and you cherry pick a largely ineffectual response. well i think their rights shouldnt be endangered and they shouldnt paarade end of story. their parades howevere in spite of being unnecessary should not be banned. i say unnecessary because in countries where homosexual rights are severely threatened parading would be suicidal in the first place gg wp liquidlahara
Do you even read what people say?
You just keep droning on without actually reacting to what anyone says. If you're not going to actually engage other people, why not just spout your opinions at a wall?
People have repeatedly explained to you why these parades matter, and like a broken record, you just repeat "nuh-uh".
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On November 24 2012 00:15 lahara wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 00:03 plogamer wrote:On November 23 2012 23:57 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 23:55 radscorpion9 wrote:On November 23 2012 23:40 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 23:31 zalz wrote:On November 23 2012 23:24 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 23:21 mcc wrote:On November 23 2012 22:54 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 22:38 Hairy wrote:
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I would be MOST interested to hear your reasoning behind this. well i thinnk people shouild just stop making a thing out of it at all. theres no straight parades where we rub our straightness into gay peoples faces... so they shouldnt go around habing gay parade which in my opinion not only serve the purpose of clebration but are alos intended to provoke as many gay people especially younger ones enjoy the breaking of a tabu or whatever. And that is a problem that warrants banning them why ? i neevr said it should be stopped. i personally dont see the use in them so i think people should stop doing these paardes especiall yif others get offended. celebrate your homosexuality in private. if they dont want to stop well then people wil just get offended and its just too bad. i never said anything about bannning the parades . l2r liquidlahara Homosexuals used to hide their sexuality. People like you kept drafting their names on lists and publishing them in the newspaper so they would get fired. Historic record shows that when homosexuals don't flaunt anything, they are still targetted. lol people like me? way to go overboard :D. all i say is that since some people take offense hthey might wanna reconsider having parades celebrating their sexuality which people are either indifferent to or take offense at. i just dont see the point. i dont have a problem with homosexuals but i just dont see why they need gay paardes when i dont need a straight parade But you're ignoring the positive things that come out of the parade. One of the major reasons for having it is to help other gay people come out and be proud of their orientation rather than live in shame from the social stigma associated with being gay in many countries, including first world countries. In general you should avoid offending people if possible, but what they're doing has very important positive consequences; it helps people escape from the psychological torment of suppressing their own sexuality. Clearly you shouldn't say that not offending extremely religious people is more important. Secondly you have to draw the line at what should be considered offensive and what not...like what group of people do you want to respect and take seriously. Would you avoid offending neo-nazis by supporting democratic, non-racist policies? Would you avoid offending religious preachers by supporting the teaching of evolution in schools? Now if you're talking specifically about Uganda, then you're offending a lot more people and that needs to be taken into account. In that case, just ask yourself objectively whether the striving towards a culture that accepts gays and teaches them that its okay to be whatever orientation they are is something which is more important than offending a group of hardcore Christians (and as pointed out in this thread, many of whom have been the target of ridiculous propaganda about the evilness of gays). there is nothing about being gay ot take pride in just like i dont take pride in being hetero. either youre gay or youre not nothing to be proud of. its like saying ure proud to be a dude or poroud to be a girl http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383750¤tpage=4#68
They need them because there is active pressure and the very real threat that their rights as individuals could be taken away at any minute, and also that in many parts of the world their rights are still not considered a given - for example in Uganda which is the center of the discussion. They are still very much actively fighting for their own rights as well as the rights of other human beings. The "Gay" rights parades also preach the values of sexual tolerance which isn't exclusive to just homosexuality, it also includes the rights of transexuals, bi-sexuals, etc, (note that this includes those who are just born into the world with a genetic rarity and could do nothing about it) which emcompasses a larger group than the majority of those taking part in the parade.
This response was posted above and you cherry pick a largely ineffectual response. well i think their rights shouldnt be endangered and they shouldnt paarade end of story. their parades howevere in spite of being unnecessary should not be banned. i say unnecessary because in countries where homosexual rights are severely threatened parading would be suicidal in the first place gg wp liquidlahara
Your annoying "gg wp" and signature at the end of the posts is also unnecessary and offensive. I think you shouldn't do that.
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On November 24 2012 00:10 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 00:08 [3S]Green wrote:
USA has laws that are even WORSTE than this. Here in America you can be sentenced to MANY years in prison just for deciding to grow a garden of certain types of plants. Wat's worste growing plants or promoting homosexuality, which is anti-christian and it just itsn't natural lol. Wake up people you're being brainwashed here. Oh don't start with that, in alot (if not all) countries it's also illegal to grow plants that produce heroin or scopolamine for the purpose of creating a drug, marijuana doesn't warrant a special status, every case has to be judged on its own merits.
So you're arguing that because certain plants are illegal to grow in many countries (because there's many that it is perfectly legal in) that it must be wrong? What if your Homosexuality was outlawed in All countries would that make it wrong? And there is no proof that humans are "born gay" Who's to say people don't become homosexual because of factors such as gay media promotion, gay pride marches, stuff they see on tv, or any other false imformation they might receive such as "People can be born gay" Mabey uganda wants to stop people from being turned gay through all this brainwash bullcrap? What's wrong with that? And if they happen to be "born gay" then why will love it in prison im sure.
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On November 24 2012 00:22 [3S]Green wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 00:10 Caihead wrote:On November 24 2012 00:08 [3S]Green wrote:
USA has laws that are even WORSTE than this. Here in America you can be sentenced to MANY years in prison just for deciding to grow a garden of certain types of plants. Wat's worste growing plants or promoting homosexuality, which is anti-christian and it just itsn't natural lol. Wake up people you're being brainwashed here. Oh don't start with that, in alot (if not all) countries it's also illegal to grow plants that produce heroin or scopolamine for the purpose of creating a drug, marijuana doesn't warrant a special status, every case has to be judged on its own merits. So you're arguing that because certain plants are illegal to grow in many countries (because there's many that it is perfectly legal in) that it must be wrong? What if your Homosexuality was outlawed in All countries would that make it wrong? And there is no proof that humans are "born gay" Who's to say people don't become homosexual because of factors such as gay media promotion, gay pride marches, stuff they see on tv, or any other false imformation they might receive such as "People can be born gay" Mabey uganda wants to stop people from being turned gay through all this brainwash bullcrap? What's wrong with that? And if they happen to be "born gay" then why will love it in prison im sure.
No I'm not arguing about that, the end of my comment is "marijuana doesn't warrant a special status, every case has to be judged on its own merits." You started with a generalization "deciding to grow a garden of certain types of plants" and I outlined why that generalization is stupid. I did not actually argue pro or con marijuana legalization in my post. But if you must know, I'm actually pro-marijuana legalization provided it's met with the same restrictive legal nature as other controlled substances and given a age limit / legal liability for inappropriate use.
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On November 24 2012 00:19 zalz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 00:15 lahara wrote:On November 24 2012 00:03 plogamer wrote:On November 23 2012 23:57 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 23:55 radscorpion9 wrote:On November 23 2012 23:40 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 23:31 zalz wrote:On November 23 2012 23:24 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 23:21 mcc wrote:On November 23 2012 22:54 lahara wrote:
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well i thinnk people shouild just stop making a thing out of it at all. theres no straight parades where we rub our straightness into gay peoples faces... so they shouldnt go around habing gay parade which in my opinion not only serve the purpose of clebration but are alos intended to provoke as many gay people especially younger ones enjoy the breaking of a tabu or whatever. And that is a problem that warrants banning them why ? i neevr said it should be stopped. i personally dont see the use in them so i think people should stop doing these paardes especiall yif others get offended. celebrate your homosexuality in private. if they dont want to stop well then people wil just get offended and its just too bad. i never said anything about bannning the parades . l2r liquidlahara Homosexuals used to hide their sexuality. People like you kept drafting their names on lists and publishing them in the newspaper so they would get fired. Historic record shows that when homosexuals don't flaunt anything, they are still targetted. lol people like me? way to go overboard :D. all i say is that since some people take offense hthey might wanna reconsider having parades celebrating their sexuality which people are either indifferent to or take offense at. i just dont see the point. i dont have a problem with homosexuals but i just dont see why they need gay paardes when i dont need a straight parade But you're ignoring the positive things that come out of the parade. One of the major reasons for having it is to help other gay people come out and be proud of their orientation rather than live in shame from the social stigma associated with being gay in many countries, including first world countries. In general you should avoid offending people if possible, but what they're doing has very important positive consequences; it helps people escape from the psychological torment of suppressing their own sexuality. Clearly you shouldn't say that not offending extremely religious people is more important. Secondly you have to draw the line at what should be considered offensive and what not...like what group of people do you want to respect and take seriously. Would you avoid offending neo-nazis by supporting democratic, non-racist policies? Would you avoid offending religious preachers by supporting the teaching of evolution in schools? Now if you're talking specifically about Uganda, then you're offending a lot more people and that needs to be taken into account. In that case, just ask yourself objectively whether the striving towards a culture that accepts gays and teaches them that its okay to be whatever orientation they are is something which is more important than offending a group of hardcore Christians (and as pointed out in this thread, many of whom have been the target of ridiculous propaganda about the evilness of gays). there is nothing about being gay ot take pride in just like i dont take pride in being hetero. either youre gay or youre not nothing to be proud of. its like saying ure proud to be a dude or poroud to be a girl http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383750¤tpage=4#68
They need them because there is active pressure and the very real threat that their rights as individuals could be taken away at any minute, and also that in many parts of the world their rights are still not considered a given - for example in Uganda which is the center of the discussion. They are still very much actively fighting for their own rights as well as the rights of other human beings. The "Gay" rights parades also preach the values of sexual tolerance which isn't exclusive to just homosexuality, it also includes the rights of transexuals, bi-sexuals, etc, (note that this includes those who are just born into the world with a genetic rarity and could do nothing about it) which emcompasses a larger group than the majority of those taking part in the parade.
This response was posted above and you cherry pick a largely ineffectual response. well i think their rights shouldnt be endangered and they shouldnt paarade end of story. their parades howevere in spite of being unnecessary should not be banned. i say unnecessary because in countries where homosexual rights are severely threatened parading would be suicidal in the first place gg wp liquidlahara Do you even read what people say? You just keep droning on without actually reacting to what anyone says. If you're not going to actually engage other people, why not just spout your opinions at a wall? People have repeatedly explained to you why these parades matter, and like a broken record, you just repeat "nuh-uh".
if u read my responmse u will see i explain my point of viewand why i think that the explanations given by tlers on why parades are important are not convincing to me
gg wp
liquidlahara
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On November 24 2012 00:24 Caihead wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 00:22 [3S]Green wrote:On November 24 2012 00:10 Caihead wrote:On November 24 2012 00:08 [3S]Green wrote:
USA has laws that are even WORSTE than this. Here in America you can be sentenced to MANY years in prison just for deciding to grow a garden of certain types of plants. Wat's worste growing plants or promoting homosexuality, which is anti-christian and it just itsn't natural lol. Wake up people you're being brainwashed here. Oh don't start with that, in alot (if not all) countries it's also illegal to grow plants that produce heroin or scopolamine for the purpose of creating a drug, marijuana doesn't warrant a special status, every case has to be judged on its own merits. So you're arguing that because certain plants are illegal to grow in many countries (because there's many that it is perfectly legal in) that it must be wrong? What if your Homosexuality was outlawed in All countries would that make it wrong? And there is no proof that humans are "born gay" Who's to say people don't become homosexual because of factors such as gay media promotion, gay pride marches, stuff they see on tv, or any other false imformation they might receive such as "People can be born gay" Mabey uganda wants to stop people from being turned gay through all this brainwash bullcrap? What's wrong with that? And if they happen to be "born gay" then why will love it in prison im sure. No I'm not arguing about that, the end of my comment is "marijuana doesn't warrant a special status, every case has to be judged on its own merits." You started with a generalization "deciding to grow a garden of certain types of plants" and I outlined why that generalization is stupid. I did not actually argue pro or con marijuana legalization in my post. But if you must know, I'm actually pro-marijuana legalization provided it's met with the same restrictive legal nature as other controlled substances and given a age limit / legal liability for inappropriate use.
Like i said there is no 100% proof that "gay" is a "special status" You have a choice if u wanna fuck a man or fuck a woman. You have a choice whether you want to grow merijuana or not. It's up to you. I do know one thing. The penis has 2 purposes 1 for using the bathroom the other for making WOMEN pregnant. If you CHOOSE to use it in other ways then that is up to you.
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By the way lahara did you know not everyone who competes in the Paralympics has a mental disability, it's also for people who are physically disabled in some way as well... not everyone there is a "retard."
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On November 24 2012 00:28 [3S]Green wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 00:24 Caihead wrote:On November 24 2012 00:22 [3S]Green wrote:On November 24 2012 00:10 Caihead wrote:On November 24 2012 00:08 [3S]Green wrote:
USA has laws that are even WORSTE than this. Here in America you can be sentenced to MANY years in prison just for deciding to grow a garden of certain types of plants. Wat's worste growing plants or promoting homosexuality, which is anti-christian and it just itsn't natural lol. Wake up people you're being brainwashed here. Oh don't start with that, in alot (if not all) countries it's also illegal to grow plants that produce heroin or scopolamine for the purpose of creating a drug, marijuana doesn't warrant a special status, every case has to be judged on its own merits. So you're arguing that because certain plants are illegal to grow in many countries (because there's many that it is perfectly legal in) that it must be wrong? What if your Homosexuality was outlawed in All countries would that make it wrong? And there is no proof that humans are "born gay" Who's to say people don't become homosexual because of factors such as gay media promotion, gay pride marches, stuff they see on tv, or any other false imformation they might receive such as "People can be born gay" Mabey uganda wants to stop people from being turned gay through all this brainwash bullcrap? What's wrong with that? And if they happen to be "born gay" then why will love it in prison im sure. No I'm not arguing about that, the end of my comment is "marijuana doesn't warrant a special status, every case has to be judged on its own merits." You started with a generalization "deciding to grow a garden of certain types of plants" and I outlined why that generalization is stupid. I did not actually argue pro or con marijuana legalization in my post. But if you must know, I'm actually pro-marijuana legalization provided it's met with the same restrictive legal nature as other controlled substances and given a age limit / legal liability for inappropriate use. Like i said there is no 100% proof that "gay" is a "special status" You have a choice if u wanna fuck a man or fuck a woman. You have a choice whether you want to grow merijuana or not. It's up to you. I do know one thing. The penis has 2 purposes 1 for using the bathroom the other for making WOMEN pregnant. If you CHOOSE to use it in other ways then that is up to you.
I'm arguing that no case deserves special status, every case has to be examined on its own merits. So your first sentence affirms what I'm saying.
Secondly I also have a choice whether I want to fuck a man, a woman, a dog, a dead person, or a child. That doesn't make it right. I could also make a teenage female pregnant via rape. I don't understand your argument. We legislate actions that harm others with out consent and capacity of understanding (consideration, capacity, legality, etc etc) as the basis of law, not "freedom of choice".
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On November 24 2012 00:22 [3S]Green wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 00:10 Caihead wrote:On November 24 2012 00:08 [3S]Green wrote:
USA has laws that are even WORSTE than this. Here in America you can be sentenced to MANY years in prison just for deciding to grow a garden of certain types of plants. Wat's worste growing plants or promoting homosexuality, which is anti-christian and it just itsn't natural lol. Wake up people you're being brainwashed here. Oh don't start with that, in alot (if not all) countries it's also illegal to grow plants that produce heroin or scopolamine for the purpose of creating a drug, marijuana doesn't warrant a special status, every case has to be judged on its own merits. So you're arguing that because certain plants are illegal to grow in many countries (because there's many that it is perfectly legal in) that it must be wrong? What if your Homosexuality was outlawed in All countries would that make it wrong? And there is no proof that humans are "born gay" Who's to say people don't become homosexual because of factors such as gay media promotion, gay pride marches, stuff they see on tv, or any other false imformation they might receive such as "People can be born gay" Mabey uganda wants to stop people from being turned gay through all this brainwash bullcrap? What's wrong with that? And if they happen to be "born gay" then why will love it in prison im sure.
I am pretty sure this guy is blatantly trolling now. I refuse to believe that someone actually believes this. "And if they happen to be "born gay" then why will love it in prison im sure.". Wtf. I dont even know how to react to this.
Also, the whole "we need to protect the children from being turned gay by gay brainwashing" angle is completely absurd. First, why. Even if it were happening (It is not), what is the problem with it? I simply don't see anything wrong with being gay. It should not be a problem to explain why it is in a rational way if it is so obviously wrong. Secondly, people are being turned gay by gay pride parades? How is that supposed to work?
On November 24 2012 00:26 lahara wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 00:19 zalz wrote:On November 24 2012 00:15 lahara wrote:On November 24 2012 00:03 plogamer wrote:On November 23 2012 23:57 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 23:55 radscorpion9 wrote:On November 23 2012 23:40 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 23:31 zalz wrote:On November 23 2012 23:24 lahara wrote:On November 23 2012 23:21 mcc wrote:
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And that is a problem that warrants banning them why ? i neevr said it should be stopped. i personally dont see the use in them so i think people should stop doing these paardes especiall yif others get offended. celebrate your homosexuality in private. if they dont want to stop well then people wil just get offended and its just too bad. i never said anything about bannning the parades . l2r liquidlahara Homosexuals used to hide their sexuality. People like you kept drafting their names on lists and publishing them in the newspaper so they would get fired. Historic record shows that when homosexuals don't flaunt anything, they are still targetted. lol people like me? way to go overboard :D. all i say is that since some people take offense hthey might wanna reconsider having parades celebrating their sexuality which people are either indifferent to or take offense at. i just dont see the point. i dont have a problem with homosexuals but i just dont see why they need gay paardes when i dont need a straight parade But you're ignoring the positive things that come out of the parade. One of the major reasons for having it is to help other gay people come out and be proud of their orientation rather than live in shame from the social stigma associated with being gay in many countries, including first world countries. In general you should avoid offending people if possible, but what they're doing has very important positive consequences; it helps people escape from the psychological torment of suppressing their own sexuality. Clearly you shouldn't say that not offending extremely religious people is more important. Secondly you have to draw the line at what should be considered offensive and what not...like what group of people do you want to respect and take seriously. Would you avoid offending neo-nazis by supporting democratic, non-racist policies? Would you avoid offending religious preachers by supporting the teaching of evolution in schools? Now if you're talking specifically about Uganda, then you're offending a lot more people and that needs to be taken into account. In that case, just ask yourself objectively whether the striving towards a culture that accepts gays and teaches them that its okay to be whatever orientation they are is something which is more important than offending a group of hardcore Christians (and as pointed out in this thread, many of whom have been the target of ridiculous propaganda about the evilness of gays). there is nothing about being gay ot take pride in just like i dont take pride in being hetero. either youre gay or youre not nothing to be proud of. its like saying ure proud to be a dude or poroud to be a girl http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383750¤tpage=4#68
They need them because there is active pressure and the very real threat that their rights as individuals could be taken away at any minute, and also that in many parts of the world their rights are still not considered a given - for example in Uganda which is the center of the discussion. They are still very much actively fighting for their own rights as well as the rights of other human beings. The "Gay" rights parades also preach the values of sexual tolerance which isn't exclusive to just homosexuality, it also includes the rights of transexuals, bi-sexuals, etc, (note that this includes those who are just born into the world with a genetic rarity and could do nothing about it) which emcompasses a larger group than the majority of those taking part in the parade.
This response was posted above and you cherry pick a largely ineffectual response. well i think their rights shouldnt be endangered and they shouldnt paarade end of story. their parades howevere in spite of being unnecessary should not be banned. i say unnecessary because in countries where homosexual rights are severely threatened parading would be suicidal in the first place gg wp liquidlahara Do you even read what people say? You just keep droning on without actually reacting to what anyone says. If you're not going to actually engage other people, why not just spout your opinions at a wall? People have repeatedly explained to you why these parades matter, and like a broken record, you just repeat "nuh-uh". if u read my responmse u will see i explain my point of viewand why i think that the explanations given by tlers on why parades are important are not convincing to me gg wp liquidlahara
Could you please stop it with the stupid "ggwp liquidlahara" crap, that is obviously only there to annoy everyone? Signing posts is stupid, everyone can see your name at the top of your post. And that "ggwp" just looks like "I won the argument, you are stupid" to everyone else.
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On November 24 2012 00:28 [3S]Green wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 00:24 Caihead wrote:On November 24 2012 00:22 [3S]Green wrote:On November 24 2012 00:10 Caihead wrote:On November 24 2012 00:08 [3S]Green wrote:
USA has laws that are even WORSTE than this. Here in America you can be sentenced to MANY years in prison just for deciding to grow a garden of certain types of plants. Wat's worste growing plants or promoting homosexuality, which is anti-christian and it just itsn't natural lol. Wake up people you're being brainwashed here. Oh don't start with that, in alot (if not all) countries it's also illegal to grow plants that produce heroin or scopolamine for the purpose of creating a drug, marijuana doesn't warrant a special status, every case has to be judged on its own merits. So you're arguing that because certain plants are illegal to grow in many countries (because there's many that it is perfectly legal in) that it must be wrong? What if your Homosexuality was outlawed in All countries would that make it wrong? And there is no proof that humans are "born gay" Who's to say people don't become homosexual because of factors such as gay media promotion, gay pride marches, stuff they see on tv, or any other false imformation they might receive such as "People can be born gay" Mabey uganda wants to stop people from being turned gay through all this brainwash bullcrap? What's wrong with that? And if they happen to be "born gay" then why will love it in prison im sure. No I'm not arguing about that, the end of my comment is "marijuana doesn't warrant a special status, every case has to be judged on its own merits." You started with a generalization "deciding to grow a garden of certain types of plants" and I outlined why that generalization is stupid. I did not actually argue pro or con marijuana legalization in my post. But if you must know, I'm actually pro-marijuana legalization provided it's met with the same restrictive legal nature as other controlled substances and given a age limit / legal liability for inappropriate use. Like i said there is no 100% proof that "gay" is a "special status" You have a choice if u wanna fuck a man or fuck a woman. You have a choice whether you want to grow merijuana or not. It's up to you. I do know one thing. The penis has 2 purposes 1 for using the bathroom the other for making WOMEN pregnant. If you CHOOSE to use it in other ways then that is up to you.
Okay, riddle me this:
When did you "choose" to be heterosexual?
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On November 24 2012 00:32 Simberto wrote:
Secondly, people are being turned gay by gay pride parades? How is that supposed to work?
They are pretty darn fabulous....
+ Show Spoiler +not being serious, but thought it best I actually explicitly state so!
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You can choose who you try to get to have sex with you.
You can't choose who you are attracted to. It's not something your conscious mind can control.
Again: You can't choose who you get *that* feeling for. You can only choose whether you do something about it or not.
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LOL here in europe black people are all like "omg u are racist" if there are jokes about african people and they are not better...killing gays basically, that's it
i hate racism in all it's form, i support blacks and gays and don't judge a person over it
but this is just the most embarassing moment in the last 10 decades
they are racist themselves and view gays as satanic o.O
then they should all "feel the wrath of lady gaga, for she is the queen of the gays and possessed by satan himself" (how africans would possibly view it)
a bit ironic, isn't it?
i remember the first time this bill didn't pass and i voted against the anti-gay-bill
sad to see this shit rises again ._.
btw a str8 guy could pull of the poo-poo performance just like a gay one #argument invalid
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On November 24 2012 00:34 Hairy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 00:32 Simberto wrote:
Secondly, people are being turned gay by gay pride parades? How is that supposed to work? They are pretty darn fabulous.... + Show Spoiler +not being serious, but thought it best I actually explicitly state so :|
I do say that is absolutely outrageous young man, etc etc.
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