Ugandan Anti-Homosexuality Bill - resurgence - Page 7

On November 24 2012 01:26 Qwyn wrote:
Well, it is certainly understandable why Uganda would do that. I don't have a personal opinion on the matter, except to say that:

It is what it is. For much of history to be gay was akin to witchcraft or heresy...it was simply inconceivable. The idea of socially accepted, open homo-sexuality on a large scale is a radical concept...one that is almost purely modern.

The reaction of many people is thus, understandable. Regardless of my personal views on the subject, tolerance of homosexuality is becoming far more widespread, perpetuated by the liberal media, technology, social services...

Too many people are not considering the opposite side of the coin before they state their opinions. They do not consider that many people have deep religious beliefs that marriage should be between a man and a woman, and that homosexuality is considered an evil. Do you honestly expect that many of these religious believers would ACCEPT open, socially tolerated homosexuality? Of course not! It goes against a fundamental belief.

TL is largely populated by people with extremely left viewpoints. It gets almost sickening after awhile. Part of adopting a strong opinion on an issue is to consider all sides.

Which ultimately led me not to have a personal opinion.

Except to say that: it is what it is.

On November 24 2012 01:26 Qwyn wrote:
Well, it is certainly understandable why Uganda would do that. I don't have a personal opinion on the matter, except to say that:

It is what it is. For much of history to be gay was akin to witchcraft or heresy...it was simply inconceivable. The idea of socially accepted, open homo-sexuality on a large scale is a radical concept...one that is almost purely modern.

The reaction of many people is thus, understandable. Regardless of my personal views on the subject, tolerance of homosexuality is becoming far more widespread, perpetuated by the liberal media, technology, social services...

Too many people are not considering the opposite side of the coin before they state their opinions. They do not consider that many people have deep religious beliefs that marriage should be between a man and a woman, and that homosexuality is considered an evil. Do you honestly expect that many of these religious believers would ACCEPT open, socially tolerated homosexuality? Of course not! It goes against a fundamental belief.

TL is largely populated by people with extremely left viewpoints. It gets almost sickening after awhile. Part of adopting a strong opinion on an issue is to consider all sides.

Which ultimately led me not to have a personal opinion.

Except to say that: it is what it is.

On November 23 2012 23:55 radscorpion9 wrote:


But you're ignoring the positive things that come out of the parade. One of the major reasons for having it is to help other gay people come out and be proud of their orientation rather than live in shame from the social stigma associated with being gay in many countries, including first world countries. In general you should avoid offending people if possible, but what they're doing has very important positive consequences; it helps people escape from the psychological torment of suppressing their own sexuality. Clearly you shouldn't say that not offending extremely religious people is more important.

Secondly you have to draw the line at what should be considered offensive and what not...like what group of people do you want to respect and take seriously. Would you avoid offending neo-nazis by supporting democratic, non-racist policies? Would you avoid offending religious preachers by supporting the teaching of evolution in schools?

Now if you're talking specifically about Uganda, then you're offending a lot more people and that needs to be taken into account. In that case, just ask yourself objectively whether the striving towards a culture that accepts gays and teaches them that its okay to be whatever orientation they are is something which is more important than offending a group of hardcore Christians (and as pointed out in this thread, many of whom have been the target of ridiculous propaganda about the evilness of gays).