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Demonhunter04
1530 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:39 SnipedSoul wrote: Original Deus Ex. Can't even count how many times I beat that game. Neither can I + Show Spoiler + Never got to the end for various reasons  | ||
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lolmlg
619 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:32 Severedevil wrote: Newer games should, generally, be higher in quality, because designers of new games can take into account the successes and failures of various older games. There's a greater space of knowledge and experience to tap now than before, as well as superior computing resources to support your design. Those advantages are often pissed away by crap designers, or snatched away by jackass higher-ups. But they certainly exist. Is that why the music of today is so much better than the music of the 60s? Oh, wait... | ||
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Severedevil
United States4839 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:42 mythandier wrote: So daft. 1) By the standards of the day the graphics were awesome. Doesn't matter if they were great by old standards. We're playing them today. Are they great by modern standards? Graphically, probably not, but in gameplay, they certainly can be. | ||
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
I think the list isn't terrible but there are a number of issues I do have with it. I'll list a few thoughts here: Games I thought were scored too low: + Show Spoiler + - Adventure: this game was the foundation for almost every popular adventure game to come after it -- the inclusion of the easter egg (which the producer of the game didn't even know the developer coded into the game) makes this one of the most influential games on the atari platform...Not to mention the Swordquest (sequel to Adventure) that rewarded players (until it was canceled) with thousands of $ worth of jewelry Swordquest Contest (wikipedia) - Ultima online: Speaking of influential games. WoW wouldn't be where it is if not for UO and it's predecessor Everquest (also listed but with a higher score) - Myst: Probably one of the hardest games I played in the 90s, this game was notable for its (at the time) stunning graphics, immersive story, and challenging puzzles. (You can even find Myst in the Smithsonian's video games exhibit). - Tempest: Another very popular game that I spent many quarters playing. Its vector graphics and sound effects are instantly recognizable and the fact that you could select your difficutly level made it very unique for its time. - Final Fantasy Tactics: I admit I'm biased on this one but this game was just awesome for what it was. As a fan of Ogre Battle/Tactics Ogre I thought this game managed to succeed where those games fell short and even managed to have a fairly compelling story. Games I thought were scored to high: + Show Spoiler + - World of Warcraft: A clone of a clone of a clone...etc. Granted, very well done and refined but still -- if you're not going to respect the origins of the game, you can't fully appreciate this game. - Angry Birds: Shouldn't even be on the list. Games I thought should've been included: + Show Spoiler + - Pokemon: I hate to say it but with millions and millions...and millions sold since Red/Blue I don't see how you can leave this off the list. - Secret of Mana: Chrono Trigger was great, don't get me wrong, but SoM deserves to be somewhere on that list. - Ms. Pac-Man: While Pac-Man started the "fever", Ms. Pac-Man improved upon almost ever aspect of the original, even Game Informer has it ranked above its predecessor. - Metal Gear: I understand having Metal Gear solid on the list but the original Metal Gear was just groundbreaking. Even Hideo Kojima had no idea what he started when he created the game. In fact, he thought it was going to be a one-off kind of thing and just tried to create what he thought was the perfect game. - A large number of games could've replaced a few of the random 80s games that have no place on the list. Contenders include, but aren't limited to: (Double Dragon, Kid Icarus, Duck Hunt (that stupid dog!), Ninja Gaiden, Ghosts 'N Goblins (also Arcade), Dragon Warrior/Quest, TMNT Arcade, Dragon's Lair, Gauntlet) So what do you think? What could be removed, added, or should have a higher/lower score? For those wondering, Starcraft is on the list and was voted for by ~84% of the readers to stay on the list. | ||
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:42 lolmlg wrote: Is that why the music of today is so much better than the music of the 60s? Oh, wait... What sort of point does this statement have? Taste in objects of artistic expression (yes, that includes games) is inexorably subjective, and to pretend otherwise is stupid. Guess what, I personally enjoy newer music more than most old music, and a lot of people are going to like newer video games. | ||
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jcroisdale
United States1543 Posts
We can probably all agree games like Vice City were a lot better then GTA3, but they only pick one from each franchise. The only exception saw was Mario. | ||
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
I know, i still remember the day back in the early 90,s when me and a friend who lived next door both had doom, and we brought our pc,s together with a cable called something like a 0 modem i think and we played for days killing eachoter. It was awesome and at the time the best thing i ever had seen, but if you compare it with playing online now, it just cant come close. I get what you all are saying though, and i can agree with your point. At that time thoose games where awesome, and a game does not neccesarely have to be complicated to be good. Not everything new is neccesarely better. Nothing beats the music from end 60,s early 70,s. Not sure why this is btw, maybe its also a matter of taste. Annyway, nice to see that list, brought back a few good memmorys  | ||
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:52 jcroisdale wrote: It seems that this was article was not written very well, but at the same time people need to stop freaking out about not seeing OoT. From what I can see each game gets one representative for its franchise. We can probably all agree games like Vice City were a lot better then GTA3, but they only pick one from each franchise. The only exception saw was Mario. Agreed. Plus I'd rather see A Link to the Past | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6325 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:09 DanLee wrote: LOL apparently starcraft can be summed up in three letters: MLG. These writers kill me sometimes. "as in 'Major League Gaming,' or just 'e-sports'." Apparently MLG = esports! :D | ||
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Epishade
United States2267 Posts
Also they are really all over the place with this list. A lot of the games in the 2000s list I doubt many people have heard of (I could be wrong here though). They are also missing a lot of other games in different lists. They have the first legend of zelda in 1980s, but what about Ocarina of Time? You can't lump those 2 together as a "Zelda combo". If anything, they should have been more clear about the Zelda series, along with other series in that list. Sure, Zelda 1 was a good game, but it had a lot of hiccups with it. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:57 Epishade wrote: What is this Oregon Trail at the top of the list. Anybody here heard of that game or played it? I should be surprised it's at the top of the list, but I guess there are a lot of old TIME readers that must have played it. I Also they are really all over the place with this list. A lot of the games in the 2000s list I doubt many people have heard of (I could be wrong here though). They are also missing a lot of other games in different lists. They have the first legend of zelda in 1980s, but what about Ocarina of Time? You can't lump those 2 together as a "Zelda combo". If anything, they should have been more clear about the Zelda series, along with other series in that list. Sure, Zelda 1 was a good game, but it had a lot of hiccups with it. Oregon Trail is not "at the top" of the list. The games are ordered by decade, not by score, or X is better than Y. I was born in 1980 and yes, Oregon Trail is a great childhood memory. I think you're looking at the list from the wrong perspective. Whether or not Ocarina of Time...etc should be in it's respective decade, that's up for debate (though it seems most people agree on that point). | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
Uhhh...? | ||
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kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
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Ettick
United States2434 Posts
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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
I would vote Cave Story on that list, but if Chrono Cross was present I'd choose that. On November 16 2012 06:03 GolemMadness wrote: "One of the most important video games ever released, StarCraft‘s enduring legacy can be summed up in three letters: MLG." Uhhh...? Get your machine guns ready. | ||
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
wow. the fact that SC isn't number 1 already is just depressing. voted. how the fuck is mass effect 3 winning? Again, people, this is not a poll of the best game ever. | ||
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CrazyBirdman
Germany3509 Posts
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kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
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