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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4336 Posts
Time magazine has several polls open to vote for the top 100 best video games from. 1970 to 2010. Starcraft:Brood War is on the list, along with some other great titles. Go vote! http://techland.time.com/2012/11/15/all-time-100-video-games/slide/all/ | ||
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farvacola
United States18825 Posts
Edit: I voted Myst as number one, come at me  | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
Honestly I think Rock Band should win. May not have a story or the like, but it was a great way to pass time, alone or with friends. | ||
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farvacola
United States18825 Posts
On November 16 2012 04:57 killa_robot wrote: I lol'd when I saw Mass Effect 3 on the list. Honestly I think Rock Band should win. May not have a story or the like, but it was a great way to pass time, alone or with friends. Wait, what? Am I Romanian or did you just say in earnest that Rock Band should win the best game of all time? | ||
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
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TotalNightmare
Germany139 Posts
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politik
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
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sertas
Sweden887 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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KillerSOS
United States4207 Posts
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DanLee
Canada316 Posts
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MrF
United States320 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Glad Zork made it, my childhood wouldn't have been the same without it. | ||
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Caryc
Germany330 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:02 TotalNightmare wrote: Why the heck is oblivion there but not Morrowind!? oblivion is like an exploration simulator it's not even fucking worthy of being called a game :/ I hate that game with such a passion i can't describe it with words. Also i didn't find baldurs gate2 so fuck that list :D no self respecting game can possibly think oblivion is anything but pathetic... I'm gonna keep myself from going on a rant here but once i read some dude harping on oblivion like a retard making some pretty bad points, but then there were the legions of brainless morons defending oblivion thinking it is some kind of thinking man's game and the people who don't like it are all adhd cod-kids. A monkey could finish oblivion and would probably enjoy the pretty colors. Fuck oblivion fans. | ||
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Sprungjeezy
United States1313 Posts
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:13 nttea wrote: oblivion is like an exploration simulator it's not even fucking worthy of being called a game :/ I hate that game with such a passion i can't describe it with words. Also i didn't find baldurs gate2 so fuck that list :D no self respecting game can possibly think oblivion is anything but pathetic... I'm gonna keep myself from going on a rant here but once i read some dude harping on oblivion like a retard making some pretty bad points, but then there were the legions of brainless morons defending oblivion thinking it is some kind of thinking man's game and the people who don't like it are all adhd cod-kids. A monkey could finish oblivion and would probably enjoy the pretty colors. Fuck oblivion fans. whoa.. Whoa. WHOA. Monkeys have standards too. | ||
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13th Marine
United States344 Posts
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TrickyGilligan
United States641 Posts
Deus Ex has half the votes of Bioshock. Awesome. | ||
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
My pick would be world of warcraft, as it is probably the most played game,Even though i dont play it myself. Guitar hero also is a revolutionary and verry popular game. Feels a bit unfair to compare recent games with games from the 70,s and 80,s. Off course recent games are way and way better in every aspect. @below: How is it wrong? you cant compare something like space invaders with halo? Or wulfenstein 3d with doom (not even mentioned in the list i think) There is a reason the old games are not played annymore, most people like new games alot more. Everything is better, the graphics, the smoothness of the gameplay, the seize of the game. I love old stuff (my first computer game was a version of pong and i loved it, but when doom came i loved that even more) but have to be realistic. | ||
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:20 Rassy wrote: Off course recent games are way and way better in every aspect. That's just plain wrong. Also, this article isn't a "vote on the best game" thing. The votes are just whether or not that specific games deserves to be on the top 100. | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
Ignorance is bliss. | ||
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rift
1819 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:20 Rassy wrote: Verry nice list. My pick would be world of warcraft, as it is probably the most played game,Even though i dont play it myself. Guitar hero also is a revolutionary and verry popular game. Feels a bit unfair to compare recent games with games from the 70,s and 80,s. Off course recent games are way and way better in every aspect. you need to check yourself before you wreck yourself | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
 But still, WHAT A LIST!! | ||
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
The gameplay is way simpler, the graphics are worse, you couldnt play online with others (wich makes games a lot more fun) They realy are worse then contemporary games in every aspect. Lets be honest here, who of you still play games now and then from the 70,s and 80,s or even 90,s? My favorit game is not mentioned btw, maybe because it was freeware. Return to castle wolfenstein/enemy territory (based on quake engine), wich i still find the best fps even today. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
I think reds the best. Anyone that thinks blue is the best is wrong. | ||
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
like battlefield bad company for the frostbite engine.. its so much fun to start the maps with a lot of buildings to hide in and in the end everything is destroyed. otherwise i would consider gta 2 or gta san andrews, half-life 2, dawn of discovery, the first call of duty, diablo 2, pokemon yellow was awesome too back in the day... but in the end... im voting for super mario! | ||
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skzlime
Hungary462 Posts
i still play master of magic every now and then. that game is older than i am. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10126 Posts
Instead : Madden NFL !!!!!!!!!!!!!! the fuck. | ||
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zomgE
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BeanerBurrito
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Severedevil
United States4838 Posts
Newer games should, generally, be higher in quality, because designers of new games can take into account the successes and failures of various older games. There's a greater space of knowledge and experience to tap now than before, as well as superior computing resources to support your design. Those advantages are often pissed away by crap designers, or snatched away by jackass higher-ups. But they certainly exist. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:28 Rassy wrote: Serious? how can annyone say that old games are better then the current ones? The gameplay is way simpler, the graphics are worse, you couldnt play online with others (wich makes games a lot more fun) They realy are worse then contemporary games in every aspect. Lets be honest here, who of you still play games now and then from the 70,s and 80,s or even 90,s? They got better in every technical and UI aspect. But not necessarily in gameplay - that's why there are classics that can be pretty old. For example, I do still play Master of Orion 2 every once in a while, there just hasn't been a worthy successor yet. Of course, this is all a matter of taste and also age. If you didn't experience it back when it was new and shiny, chances are that you'll see only the dated graphics and can't be bothered to give it a try. | ||
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Hundisilm
Estonia99 Posts
Right... | ||
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WaesumNinja
210 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:28 Rassy wrote:Lets be honest here, who of you still play games now and then from the 70,s and 80,s or even 90,s? I do. Here's a few random picks of games that I still enjoy:
and of course the aforementioned Doom, which i still play coop with friends sometimes. | ||
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SnipedSoul
Canada2158 Posts
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:28 Rassy wrote: Serious? how can annyone say that old games are better then the current ones? The gameplay is way simpler, the graphics are worse, you couldnt play online with others (wich makes games a lot more fun) They realy are worse then contemporary games in every aspect then. Lets be honest here, who of you still play games now and then from the 70,s and 80,s? So daft. 1) By the standards of the day the graphics were awesome. 2a) There is beauty in simplicity: even games like Asteroids, Joust, Combat!, Pac-Man, would provide countless hours of play time - moreso than many games today 2b) In the mid-late 80s games became more complex. Games like Star Tropics, Wonderboy, Golden Axe, TMNT Arcade, Zelda, Super Mario 3. Ultima IV takes on average 100 hours to finish. 3) Really? Online play is your argument? go outside In the 80s and even sooooooo far back as the 90s people did this cool thing where they would get together and play games...in person! It's a novel concept for sure. In all seriousness, you should've seen how packed arcades were and how competitive people were over Galaga or Ms. Pac-Man. NES created a 4-controller adapter for 4 player games like Gauntlet...holy crap, how is Gauntlet not on this list. I could go on and on but seriously, video games were a family activity in households lucky enough to have an Atari or NES. I played games with my parents, grandparents, uncles...etc. Games brought people together -- which I could argue they do the opposite now. 4) My wife and I (32 years old) have a retro video game night once a month and host about 10-15 people who come over to play games like Sonic, Toe Jam & Earl, Zombies Ate my Neighbors!, and Super Mario Bros 2. | ||
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Demonhunter04
1530 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:39 SnipedSoul wrote: Original Deus Ex. Can't even count how many times I beat that game. Neither can I + Show Spoiler + Never got to the end for various reasons | ||
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lolmlg
619 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:32 Severedevil wrote: Newer games should, generally, be higher in quality, because designers of new games can take into account the successes and failures of various older games. There's a greater space of knowledge and experience to tap now than before, as well as superior computing resources to support your design. Those advantages are often pissed away by crap designers, or snatched away by jackass higher-ups. But they certainly exist. Is that why the music of today is so much better than the music of the 60s? Oh, wait... | ||
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Severedevil
United States4838 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:42 mythandier wrote: So daft. 1) By the standards of the day the graphics were awesome. Doesn't matter if they were great by old standards. We're playing them today. Are they great by modern standards? Graphically, probably not, but in gameplay, they certainly can be. | ||
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
I think the list isn't terrible but there are a number of issues I do have with it. I'll list a few thoughts here: Games I thought were scored too low: + Show Spoiler + - Adventure: this game was the foundation for almost every popular adventure game to come after it -- the inclusion of the easter egg (which the producer of the game didn't even know the developer coded into the game) makes this one of the most influential games on the atari platform...Not to mention the Swordquest (sequel to Adventure) that rewarded players (until it was canceled) with thousands of $ worth of jewelry Swordquest Contest (wikipedia) - Ultima online: Speaking of influential games. WoW wouldn't be where it is if not for UO and it's predecessor Everquest (also listed but with a higher score) - Myst: Probably one of the hardest games I played in the 90s, this game was notable for its (at the time) stunning graphics, immersive story, and challenging puzzles. (You can even find Myst in the Smithsonian's video games exhibit). - Tempest: Another very popular game that I spent many quarters playing. Its vector graphics and sound effects are instantly recognizable and the fact that you could select your difficutly level made it very unique for its time. - Final Fantasy Tactics: I admit I'm biased on this one but this game was just awesome for what it was. As a fan of Ogre Battle/Tactics Ogre I thought this game managed to succeed where those games fell short and even managed to have a fairly compelling story. Games I thought were scored to high: + Show Spoiler + - World of Warcraft: A clone of a clone of a clone...etc. Granted, very well done and refined but still -- if you're not going to respect the origins of the game, you can't fully appreciate this game. - Angry Birds: Shouldn't even be on the list. Games I thought should've been included: + Show Spoiler + - Pokemon: I hate to say it but with millions and millions...and millions sold since Red/Blue I don't see how you can leave this off the list. - Secret of Mana: Chrono Trigger was great, don't get me wrong, but SoM deserves to be somewhere on that list. - Ms. Pac-Man: While Pac-Man started the "fever", Ms. Pac-Man improved upon almost ever aspect of the original, even Game Informer has it ranked above its predecessor. - Metal Gear: I understand having Metal Gear solid on the list but the original Metal Gear was just groundbreaking. Even Hideo Kojima had no idea what he started when he created the game. In fact, he thought it was going to be a one-off kind of thing and just tried to create what he thought was the perfect game. - A large number of games could've replaced a few of the random 80s games that have no place on the list. Contenders include, but aren't limited to: (Double Dragon, Kid Icarus, Duck Hunt (that stupid dog!), Ninja Gaiden, Ghosts 'N Goblins (also Arcade), Dragon Warrior/Quest, TMNT Arcade, Dragon's Lair, Gauntlet) So what do you think? What could be removed, added, or should have a higher/lower score? For those wondering, Starcraft is on the list and was voted for by ~84% of the readers to stay on the list. | ||
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farvacola
United States18825 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:42 lolmlg wrote: Is that why the music of today is so much better than the music of the 60s? Oh, wait... What sort of point does this statement have? Taste in objects of artistic expression (yes, that includes games) is inexorably subjective, and to pretend otherwise is stupid. Guess what, I personally enjoy newer music more than most old music, and a lot of people are going to like newer video games. | ||
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jcroisdale
United States1543 Posts
We can probably all agree games like Vice City were a lot better then GTA3, but they only pick one from each franchise. The only exception saw was Mario. | ||
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Rassy
Netherlands2308 Posts
I know, i still remember the day back in the early 90,s when me and a friend who lived next door both had doom, and we brought our pc,s together with a cable called something like a 0 modem i think and we played for days killing eachoter. It was awesome and at the time the best thing i ever had seen, but if you compare it with playing online now, it just cant come close. I get what you all are saying though, and i can agree with your point. At that time thoose games where awesome, and a game does not neccesarely have to be complicated to be good. Not everything new is neccesarely better. Nothing beats the music from end 60,s early 70,s. Not sure why this is btw, maybe its also a matter of taste. Annyway, nice to see that list, brought back a few good memmorys | ||
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:52 jcroisdale wrote: It seems that this was article was not written very well, but at the same time people need to stop freaking out about not seeing OoT. From what I can see each game gets one representative for its franchise. We can probably all agree games like Vice City were a lot better then GTA3, but they only pick one from each franchise. The only exception saw was Mario. Agreed. Plus I'd rather see A Link to the Past | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6209 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:09 DanLee wrote: LOL apparently starcraft can be summed up in three letters: MLG. These writers kill me sometimes. "as in 'Major League Gaming,' or just 'e-sports'." Apparently MLG = esports! :D | ||
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Deleted User 135096
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Epishade
United States2267 Posts
Also they are really all over the place with this list. A lot of the games in the 2000s list I doubt many people have heard of (I could be wrong here though). They are also missing a lot of other games in different lists. They have the first legend of zelda in 1980s, but what about Ocarina of Time? You can't lump those 2 together as a "Zelda combo". If anything, they should have been more clear about the Zelda series, along with other series in that list. Sure, Zelda 1 was a good game, but it had a lot of hiccups with it. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:57 Epishade wrote: What is this Oregon Trail at the top of the list. Anybody here heard of that game or played it? I should be surprised it's at the top of the list, but I guess there are a lot of old TIME readers that must have played it. I Also they are really all over the place with this list. A lot of the games in the 2000s list I doubt many people have heard of (I could be wrong here though). They are also missing a lot of other games in different lists. They have the first legend of zelda in 1980s, but what about Ocarina of Time? You can't lump those 2 together as a "Zelda combo". If anything, they should have been more clear about the Zelda series, along with other series in that list. Sure, Zelda 1 was a good game, but it had a lot of hiccups with it. Oregon Trail is not "at the top" of the list. The games are ordered by decade, not by score, or X is better than Y. I was born in 1980 and yes, Oregon Trail is a great childhood memory. I think you're looking at the list from the wrong perspective. Whether or not Ocarina of Time...etc should be in it's respective decade, that's up for debate (though it seems most people agree on that point). | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
Uhhh...? | ||
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kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
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Ettick
United States2434 Posts
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Antylamon
United States1981 Posts
I would vote Cave Story on that list, but if Chrono Cross was present I'd choose that. On November 16 2012 06:03 GolemMadness wrote: "One of the most important video games ever released, StarCraft‘s enduring legacy can be summed up in three letters: MLG." Uhhh...? Get your machine guns ready. | ||
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
wow. the fact that SC isn't number 1 already is just depressing. voted. how the fuck is mass effect 3 winning? Again, people, this is not a poll of the best game ever. | ||
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CrazyBirdman
Germany3509 Posts
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kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
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kochanfe
Micronesia1338 Posts
On November 16 2012 06:10 mythandier wrote: Again, people, this is not a poll of the best game ever. Oh. K thanks. | ||
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SnipedSoul
Canada2158 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:42 Demonhunter04 wrote: Neither can I + Show Spoiler + Never got to the end for various reasons WTF is wrong with you? Go beat it right now! | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Steveling
Greece10806 Posts
Seriously, oblivion? Mass Effect 3? Really? And there are like a hundrend games that should have been there. No dota? No fallouts? No baldurs gates? No adventures at all? Wtf. | ||
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Azurues
Malaysia5612 Posts
like really, who create this poll should rethink again. and one best video game is silly. there are so many to choose | ||
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Zaranth
United States345 Posts
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
The list itself may be bad, but the poll results? Ye gods... | ||
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
do it!! | ||
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CrazyBirdman
Germany3509 Posts
On November 16 2012 06:14 Steveling wrote: This poll is bad and they should feel bad. Seriously, oblivion? Mass Effect 3? Really? And there are like a hundrend games that should have been there. No dota? No fallouts? No baldurs gates? No adventures at all? Wtf. The main problem is not that certain games are include, it's that others are not included, both Mass Effect 3 and Oblivion are certainly worthy of most top 100 lists with the huge following they created. Both have become more than just "games" they became cultural phenomenons. Not saying that makes them better than other games but it makes it justifiable to put them on such lists. | ||
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Epishade
United States2267 Posts
On November 16 2012 06:02 mythandier wrote: Oregon Trail is not "at the top" of the list. The games are ordered by decade, not by score, or X is better than Y. I was born in 1980 and yes, Oregon Trail is a great childhood memory. I think you're looking at the list from the wrong perspective. Whether or not Ocarina of Time...etc should be in it's respective decade, that's up for debate (though it seems most people agree on that point). I'm pretty sure it is at the top of the list, unless for some reason the "definitely" votes don't actually mean that people voted for the game. I can obviously see that the list is ordered by decade. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Mr9mQ.jpg) | ||
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JKM
Denmark419 Posts
Edit: Never liked polls where all games are grouped together. The different genres have different amount of fans, basically making the best game of the genre with most fans win (generally). For the same reason you will never see an rts game win something like this. Too few playing it! | ||
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jubil
United States2602 Posts
Also I would have included Star Fox, Mario Kart, Ocarina of Time, and maybe Age of Empires personally. | ||
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Tor
Canada231 Posts
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Deleted User 135096
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Scio
Germany522 Posts
On November 16 2012 06:22 CrazyBirdman wrote: The main problem is not that certain games are include, it's that others are not included, both Mass Effect 3 and Oblivion are certainly worthy of most top 100 lists with the huge following they created. Both have become more than just "games" they became cultural phenomenons. Not saying that makes them better than other games but it makes it justifiable to put them on such lists. deleted my crapcomment | ||
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Severedevil
United States4838 Posts
On November 16 2012 06:22 SpikeStarcraft wrote: how about we create our own teamliquid best video game poll? we give people time for some days to nominate their favorite video games and then we start a poll? do it!! That sounds awesome! Just make sure to disqualify Starcraft: Broodwar, Starcraft II, and Dota. As the website's formally supported games, endorsements for them would be skewed. | ||
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
On November 16 2012 06:27 Epishade wrote: I'm pretty sure it is at the top of the list, unless for some reason the "definitely" votes don't actually mean that people voted for the game. I can obviously see that the list is ordered by decade. If you took the time to actually read the entire article, as I pointed out in my OP on this same subject, you would realize that yes, in fact, "definitely" means something other than what you think it means. The article starts HERE. And as you scroll through each game you can see that the vote is merely for "Should X be on the list?". So yes, it is at the "top of the list" if you sort it by number of votes but that doesn't mean people think it's "better" than games with less votes. All that means is more people voted on it being on the list than other games. When I went through the slide show, I didn't vote on every game, I voted for maybe 20 or so, some yes, some no. And since Oregon Trail is the 1st game in the slide show, it's no surprise it has so many votes. Again, you're looking at it from the wrong perspective. | ||
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Crissaegrim
2947 Posts
I doubt any of the readers are true gamers anyway. | ||
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Wolvmatt.
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
On November 16 2012 06:37 Crissaegrim wrote: Voted for angry birds and Wii fit. Those games are the shit! Starcraft? Who cares about Starcraft? All it ever did was spawn a generation of professional gamers, rule over Korea, started E-sports as we know it, not to mention the simple, incredible brilliance of the game. I doubt any of the readers are true gamers anyway. I'm surprised (by your name) that you didn't complain that Symphony of the Night isn't on the list. | ||
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noddyz
United Kingdom462 Posts
Game was amazing. | ||
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JDub
United States976 Posts
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Vestrel
Canada271 Posts
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Rayeth
United States883 Posts
That said there are some great picks on this list. Demon's Souls (though I might argue Dark Souls is better overall), FFT, SC (I assume they just include BW), and Thief are all great games which some people overlook when making these lists. Overall, a list with some shortcomings, but probably designed that way to encourage more conversation. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
No Half-Life nor Unreal? Also lol @ Counter-Strike not being under 90s. -_- Guess I'll vote for BW, not that it's not well-deserved anyway, but I'm pretty disappoint in this list. | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
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cari-kira
Germany655 Posts
noobs. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:06 Hryul wrote: Since they had Christopher_Poole as the most influential person of 2008 I'm not entirely sure I can take such votes seriously. Wasn't that particular poll heavily manipulated by anon? Or perhaps the stuff I've read on it is not accurate. | ||
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Nycaloth
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Monochromatic
United States997 Posts
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AnomalySC2
United States2073 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:11 Shellshock1122 wrote: They don't even have Ocarina of TIme? Nor Planescape Torment. Or System Shock 2. Or Baldur's Gate. Or..... Crap poll. | ||
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Deleted User 135096
3624 Posts
On November 16 2012 06:46 JDub wrote: It's not really just our personal favorites, though that might/can play a role in it. It's funny how a large number of comments are just people complaining that the list doesn't contain some of their all-time favorites. There are obviously way more than 100 great games that have been made. Not everything can be on the list!! For instance, how many people here on TL have ever player Star Wars:Tie Fighter? No? Well i'm not surprised, considering how it was made in 1994 and is a flight sim. Though if you look at it both from an analytical and critical perspective, this game was far supeior to its immediate predecessor X-Wing, but it was also in the flight sim category, one of the best games made a the time. Even today it is still widely accepted as one of the best. Don't believe me? Here's an excerpt from the critical acclaim section from it's wiki, just to give you an idea on who's said what. + Show Spoiler [tiefighter] + At the 1995 Computer Game Developers Conference, TIE Fighter earned Totally Games the "Honored Developer Award."[citation needed] TIE Fighter became the second Lawrence Holland game to be inducted into Computer Gaming World's "Hall of Fame",[4] and was inducted into GameSpot's "Greatest Games of All Time" in July 2004[5] and IGN's "Hall of Fame" in 2007.[8] PC Gamer ranked TIE Fighter Collector's CD-ROM #1 in its "Top 50 Greatest Games of All Time" list in its May 1997 issue,[9] and #13 in April 2005.[10] In its 2007, 2008 and 2010 "Top 100 PC Games of All Time" lists PC Gamer would rank it #49, #63 and #73 respectively.[11][12][13] It was ranked #3 on IGN's list of the top 25 PC games of all time in 2007 and #2 in 2009.[6][7] It was ranked #11, #9 and #12 on IGN's "Top 100 Games of All Time" lists in 2003, 2005 and 2007 respectively.[14][15][16] The game was recognized by IGN once again in 2010, when it was named the best Star Wars game ever made.[17] In March 2004, GMR magazine rated TIE Fighter the second best Star Wars game of all time.[18] PC Zone named it the #58 "Best PC Game Ever" in 2007.[19] With all those critical acclamations for this game, how is it not on this list? I think that's pretty easy to surmise why that is the case. | ||
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prOxi.swAMi
Australia3091 Posts
SC is my top pick ofc. | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:09 MasterOfPuppets wrote: Wasn't that particular poll heavily manipulated by anon? Or perhaps the stuff I've read on it is not accurate. It was. It's just one way you can manipulate such an online poll. I'm quite sure WoW* will make it simply for the large fanbase. If enough ppl care and bomb their "clanforums" with "everyone vote for WoW best game evaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" it's not even close. *On the list of most played games: the sims, WoW, CS, D2. You get the idea. | ||
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TrickyGilligan
United States641 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:14 wo1fwood wrote: It's not really just our personal favorites, though that might/can play a role in it. For instance, how many people here on TL have ever player Star Wars:Tie Fighter? No? Well i'm not surprised, considering how it was made in 1994 and is a flight sim. Though if you look at it both from an analytical and critical perspective, this game was far supeior to its immediate predecessor X-Wing, but it was also in the flight sim category, one of the best games made a the time. Even today it is still widely accepted as one of the best. Don't believe me? Here's an excerpt from the critical acclaim section from it's wiki, just to give you an idea on who's said what. + Show Spoiler [tiefighter] + At the 1995 Computer Game Developers Conference, TIE Fighter earned Totally Games the "Honored Developer Award."[citation needed] TIE Fighter became the second Lawrence Holland game to be inducted into Computer Gaming World's "Hall of Fame",[4] and was inducted into GameSpot's "Greatest Games of All Time" in July 2004[5] and IGN's "Hall of Fame" in 2007.[8] PC Gamer ranked TIE Fighter Collector's CD-ROM #1 in its "Top 50 Greatest Games of All Time" list in its May 1997 issue,[9] and #13 in April 2005.[10] In its 2007, 2008 and 2010 "Top 100 PC Games of All Time" lists PC Gamer would rank it #49, #63 and #73 respectively.[11][12][13] It was ranked #3 on IGN's list of the top 25 PC games of all time in 2007 and #2 in 2009.[6][7] It was ranked #11, #9 and #12 on IGN's "Top 100 Games of All Time" lists in 2003, 2005 and 2007 respectively.[14][15][16] The game was recognized by IGN once again in 2010, when it was named the best Star Wars game ever made.[17] In March 2004, GMR magazine rated TIE Fighter the second best Star Wars game of all time.[18] PC Zone named it the #58 "Best PC Game Ever" in 2007.[19] With all those critical acclamations for this game, how is it not on this list? I think that's pretty easy to surmise why that is the case. Tie-Fighter is always in my personal list of top 5 favorite games. I've yet to meet anyone in RL who didn't give me a weird look for including it though | ||
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LunaSea
Luxembourg369 Posts
--> http://techland.time.com/2012/11/15/all-time-100-video-games/slide/starcraft-1998/ I couldn't stop laughing after that ... | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
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Diminisherqc
Canada220 Posts
-no war 3 -no secret of mana -no final 6 -no stunts and like 20 game that shouldnt be mentioned and the worst of all this !!! http://techland.time.com/2012/11/15/all-time-100-video-games/slide/chrono-trigger-1995/ how can you say so much shit about chrono trigger | ||
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julianto
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farvacola
United States18825 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:37 Diminisherqc wrote: ....this list is ridiculous, -no war 3 -no secret of mana -no final 6 -no stunts and like 20 game that shouldnt be mentioned and the worst of all this !!! http://techland.time.com/2012/11/15/all-time-100-video-games/slide/chrono-trigger-1995/ how can you say so much shit about chrono trigger I missed that bit. Anyone who naysays Chrono Trigger needs to be shaken around a bit | ||
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Solarsail
United Kingdom538 Posts
(Not Nintendo biased, I'm just familiar enough with their part of gaming's history to know how high-selling, influential and fun those games were) I'm glad CoD and Wii Sports are on there because they are equally important to gaming no matter your opinion. | ||
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AugustDreams
Australia127 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:11 AnomalySC2 wrote: Nor Planescape Torment. Or System Shock 2. Or Baldur's Gate. Or..... Crap poll. I agree about System Shock 2, that's a just disappointing :/. As for the list, they're missing some really good games (like OoT) and I'm sad that Bastions not on there, but there are a few other good games I can vote for. | ||
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
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ControlMonkey
Australia3109 Posts
But its kinda hard to do a top 100 list and exclude Ocarina of Time. Also good to see NBA jam on there. BOOMSHAKALAKA. | ||
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:14 wo1fwood wrote: It's not really just our personal favorites, though that might/can play a role in it. For instance, how many people here on TL have ever player Star Wars:Tie Fighter? No? Well i'm not surprised, considering how it was made in 1994 and is a flight sim. Though if you look at it both from an analytical and critical perspective, this game was far supeior to its immediate predecessor X-Wing, but it was also in the flight sim category, one of the best games made a the time. Even today it is still widely accepted as one of the best. Don't believe me? Here's an excerpt from the critical acclaim section from it's wiki, just to give you an idea on who's said what. + Show Spoiler [tiefighter] + At the 1995 Computer Game Developers Conference, TIE Fighter earned Totally Games the "Honored Developer Award."[citation needed] TIE Fighter became the second Lawrence Holland game to be inducted into Computer Gaming World's "Hall of Fame",[4] and was inducted into GameSpot's "Greatest Games of All Time" in July 2004[5] and IGN's "Hall of Fame" in 2007.[8] PC Gamer ranked TIE Fighter Collector's CD-ROM #1 in its "Top 50 Greatest Games of All Time" list in its May 1997 issue,[9] and #13 in April 2005.[10] In its 2007, 2008 and 2010 "Top 100 PC Games of All Time" lists PC Gamer would rank it #49, #63 and #73 respectively.[11][12][13] It was ranked #3 on IGN's list of the top 25 PC games of all time in 2007 and #2 in 2009.[6][7] It was ranked #11, #9 and #12 on IGN's "Top 100 Games of All Time" lists in 2003, 2005 and 2007 respectively.[14][15][16] The game was recognized by IGN once again in 2010, when it was named the best Star Wars game ever made.[17] In March 2004, GMR magazine rated TIE Fighter the second best Star Wars game of all time.[18] PC Zone named it the #58 "Best PC Game Ever" in 2007.[19] With all those critical acclamations for this game, how is it not on this list? I think that's pretty easy to surmise why that is the case. I played TIE Fighter and X-Wing (which came out before it). But yes, you're points are valid | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
all the way!!! | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:51 ControlMonkey wrote: Turns out 100 is a pretty small number. There's always arguments about which entry in a series should be included. I think Half Life was a better game than the sequel (they were both awesome),I LOVE FF12 more than any other. But its kinda hard to do a top 100 list and exclude Ocarina of Time. Also good to see NBA jam on there. BOOMSHAKALAKA. lol i didn't even notice no ocarina of time | ||
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achan1058
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BamBam
745 Posts
But then I saw ultima online which brought back more memories and fun then I ever had in a mmo to this day, so how could I vote against it? | ||
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Merany
France890 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35142 Posts
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TheRealArtemis
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Cirqueenflex
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 16 2012 07:44 Craton wrote: Considering how landmark sim city was, it's sad that there's no entry. http://techland.time.com/2012/11/15/all-time-100-video-games/slide/simcity-2000-1993/ I think it's pretty fair to include SimCity 2000 over the original. | ||
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Zechs
United Kingdom321 Posts
Uhh... four-on-four, right... yeah. | ||
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
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CuSToM
United States1478 Posts
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AimlessAmoeba
Canada704 Posts
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Hoon
Brazil891 Posts
On November 16 2012 08:14 achan1058 wrote: I am surprised at the lack of MOBA games. Either DotA or LoL should have been included. Got plenty of MOBAs there. Starcraft, CoD, even Tetris, if you play it on tetrisfriends.com, which is online. | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
On November 16 2012 04:59 farvacola wrote: Wait, what? Am I Romanian or did you just say in earnest that Rock Band should win the best game of all time? Do you have a reason why it shouldn't be? Not sure why so many people think games need to have storylines or great characters. They're games, not stories. Games are meant for fun and entertainment. They can tell a story, sure, and it can be a great story which you enjoy and makes the game as a whole more entertaining. But to penalize a game for not having something it's not even supposed to have, is ridiculous. Rock Band was fun as hell, which is what games should be judged on. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
the fuck is wrong with this list | ||
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Thallis
United States314 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:04 politik wrote: No Ocarina of Time, wtf kind of list is this? I'd take Majora's Mask over Ocarina of Time iny day of the week. | ||
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
So I downvoted COD4, Sims, and Angry Birds. | ||
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
At first glance, it doesn't seem like that bad a list. Of course everyone's gonna disagree with it, we all have different tastes in games and there'll always be someone griping over something I think they went for influential over fun in series. Mario, Castlevania, Contra and Mega Man for example weren't as good as some of the sequels, but then again I'm not sure why they'd choose Oblivion. I don't play Elder Scrolls but pretty much 100% of people who do agree that Morrowind is better AND it came out earlier For Mario, they went for Mario Bros 1 and Mario 64. I can understand that. Even though Mario Bros 3 was amazing, they went for the game that started it, and the game that launched the franchise in a new direction. I guess Symphony of the Night, which revived a franchise and launched it in a new direction didn't quite make the cut As for the guy that said new games are flatout better than old games, I think that on the whole new games are better, and we just tend to remember the best of the best from the 90's (for example) and compare the greatest with the average games of today. But there are many old games (late 80's to 90's, I wasn't alive for games in the 70s and early 80s) that stand up to the great new games. In the past 5 years, I played Dragon Quest 3, Castlevania 4, Batman (NES), Mega Man X2 among a few others for the first time and they were all great. I hadn't played them before so I don't think I'm blinded by nostalgia/fanboyism... so yeah, I still play games of the past and I still enjoy them just as much as the Bastions and Arkham Asylums of today | ||
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phyren
United States1067 Posts
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Psychobabas
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
The journo's who wrote this are absolute hacks who have no fucking idea what they're talking about. Get the fuck out of here, TIME. | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
starcraft can be summed up by MLG. Really, can BW really be summed up by "MLG" | ||
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cozzE
Australia357 Posts
best SP game: Zelda: OoT, Final Fantasy VII & IX, Halo: Combat Evolved | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + 1990s Solitaire NO Wing Commander NO Civilization NO Sonic the Hedgehog YES Street Fighter II YES Dune II: The Building of a Dynasty NO Mortal Kombat YES Doom YES Myst YES NBA Jam NO Madden NFL 95 NO Marathon NO SimCity 2000 YES Chrono Trigger YES Quake YES Resident Evil YES Super Mario 64 YES Tomb Raider NO Final Fantasy VII YES Goldeneye 007 YES Myth: The Fallen Lords YES Ultima Online YES Final Fantasy Tactics NO Grim Fandango NO Metal Gear Solid YES StarCraft YES Thief: The Dark Project YES EverQuest NO Silent Hill YES 2000s Diablo II YES Deus Ex YES The Sims YES Animal Crossing NO Grand Theft Auto III YES Halo: Combat Evolved YES Ico NO Rez NO Counter-Strike YES Splinter Cell YES Metroid Prime NO Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic NO Cave Story NO Half-Life 2 YES Katamari Damacy NO World of Warcraft YES Guitar Hero YES Shadow of the Colossus NO The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion NO Gears of War YES Ōkami NO Wii Sports YES BioShock YES Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare YES Desktop Tower Defense NO Portal YES Rock Band NO Braid NO Angry Birds NO Demon’s Souls YES Flower NO | ||
disciple
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WilDMousE
Chile1335 Posts
AND NO XCOM... also the good ol game "Crash bandicoot" or "Gex" didn't get mentioned at all, those were my good old ps1 games or Tony hakws pro skater 1-2 WOWOWOWO no C&C Games :C! | ||
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
My vote is for Final Fantasy Tactics, but sadly 67% of people don't agree with me | ||
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forgehammer
United States79 Posts
Edit: also forgot to mention WTF ME3!?!? And no SC2? | ||
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FlyingToilet
United States840 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:13 nttea wrote: oblivion is like an exploration simulator it's not even fucking worthy of being called a game :/ I hate that game with such a passion i can't describe it with words. Also i didn't find baldurs gate2 so fuck that list :D no self respecting game can possibly think oblivion is anything but pathetic... I'm gonna keep myself from going on a rant here but once i read some dude harping on oblivion like a retard making some pretty bad points, but then there were the legions of brainless morons defending oblivion thinking it is some kind of thinking man's game and the people who don't like it are all adhd cod-kids. A monkey could finish oblivion and would probably enjoy the pretty colors. Fuck oblivion fans. Honestly i watched my friend play oblivion on his dads analog big screen tv and would go on about high definition and about how awesome this game looked. tbh to me oblivion looked like cow shit covered in pastels | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
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Luepert
United States1933 Posts
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Fatam
1986 Posts
Mass Effect 3 with the most "definitely"s...lol Shakin my head. Although at least it has a good amount of "no way"s too. | ||
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Falling
Canada11349 Posts
Was using a terrible computer and was going to vote Starcraft... and then it reloaded to Metal Gear when I clicked Definitely. | ||
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Fatam
1986 Posts
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bertu
Brazil871 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:37 Hundisilm wrote: "One of the most important video games ever released, StarCraft‘s enduring legacy can be summed up in three letters: MLG." Right... This just shows that whoever contributed to that list made no significant research whatsoever. | ||
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Zaphod Beeblebrox
Denmark697 Posts
Dune II (you know - the one that kickstarted RTS games into reality because everybody loved it) is scoring abysmally at ~33%. Grim fandango (one of the best adventure games of its time) is getting a bad way too. Mass effect 3 is scoring big despite having been one of the biggest dissapointments of all time. And people are seriously voting FOR SOLITAIRE? These polls are making my head hurt. | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
I... No words. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
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Sackings
Canada457 Posts
that said at least chrono trigger and demons souls is there | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
On November 16 2012 09:42 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: Some of these poll results make no sense. [...] Grim fandango (one of the best adventure games of its time) is getting a bad way too. [...] These polls are making my head hurt. QFT. Grim Fandango is hands down one of the best games I've ever played, and probably the one which I remember most fondly among those I played as a kid. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9641 Posts
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Damrak
Netherlands124 Posts
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
Doom Thief: Dark Project 3 genre defining games and they get so bad ratings -_- | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9641 Posts
Its like doing a survey of the best songs of all time and putting classical music in there. It just owuld not get the votes because hardly anyone under the age of 25 has heard it | ||
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anycolourfloyd
Australia524 Posts
halo was the consummate game. amazingly fun to muck around on, running people over, flame throwering people, killing teammates with vehicles, shooting rockets across the map. but then it adapted perfectly to competitive play, requiring high skill and strategy. high skill especially on PC because the net code of that game was fucked, so you always had to lead your shots by quite a lot. even the bugs worked in its favour. people spent hours and hours glitching the game, getting into ridiculous places and making movies of it. so many hours spent literally crying with laughter. i still keep in touch with a lot of those guys too. it just makes me infinitely sad that i can never have that part of my childhood back again. so, as obviously no other game can compete with that, honourable mentions in no order: - goldeneye / mario kart 64 / zelda OoT / mario party 1 [n64 was my first console, once again fond childhood memories - i still play all these games, usually at parties] - duke3d [i can still appreciate how well made it is even today] - starcraft broodwar [never played online as a kid, this is mainly for its contribution to e-sports] - age of empires II [first game i really played a lot haha and probably also gifted with me with a love of history] - dawn of war [innovative, brilliant and flawed. unlike halo, the flaws in dawn of war, being an RTS, translated to serious balance issues.. which got worse with the expansions. still so much fun] - counterstrike source [was teetering on whether to include but playing this with my highschool mates made it] - runescape [the only MMO i ever played haha. once again, through childhood with my mates] well, that made me come across as the king of all nerds. looking back though, my only regret is that i can't return that corner of time and space. | ||
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
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Asymmetric
Scotland1309 Posts
1) Christ strategy games have struggled in recent years, the 90's really were a golden age for turned based and RTS. There's not a single game on that list past starcraft 1, and that was 13 years ago. I would of thought that Shogun/Rome total war would of made it onto the list, but not even starcraft 2/Dawn of war or Company of heroes makes me a sad panda. And desktop tower defence? Go fuck yourself. 2) As others have said, Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, the game that's probably won more critical acclaim than any other in history is missing. How in gods name do you miss the official Guinness book of records highest rated game of all time and various other top 100 games lists, from your list. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9641 Posts
51% for Deus Ex, 72% for the sims people don't know shit. I don't care about blah blah blah different people like different kinds of game. Deus Ex is one of the greatest masterpieces of storytelling of all time. Yeah the graphics were shit but the game was soooooo good. And then there's the sims. Fuck off, internet | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On November 16 2012 09:14 Najda wrote: No Ocarina of Time, no Pokemon (Isn't Pokemon Red/Blue the highest selling game ever?), this poll is invalid. oh fuck pokemon isnt there > | ||
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
I voted for Street Fighter 2 as I think the quality of the game compared to all others of its time was just out of this world. | ||
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JohnnyReverb
Switzerland132 Posts
command & conquer quake i dont even wanna know on which place they are. | ||
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Asymmetric
Scotland1309 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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Emnjay808
United States10655 Posts
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Percutio
United States1672 Posts
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KingDime
Canada750 Posts
Voted for Doom. Still play the game today and it's as addicting as ever especially with 5-6 high quality megawads being released this year. | ||
NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
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muzzy
United States640 Posts
BUT, it's really sad to see some of the games getting bad votes, simply because people are idiots... Myth: The Fallen Lords was an absolutely superb game. Way ahead of its time and critically acclaimed. But, because most people don't know about it, it gets a "No Way!" rating. If you don't know the game, don't rate it. Stupid... | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On November 16 2012 10:44 MountainDewJunkie wrote: If an FPS or MMORPG wins, it really is the end of days. There have been some pretty epic FPS games in the past, Quake, Doom Duke Nukem 3d et al. Just because you are too young to remember when FPS games ruled and it wasn't just CoD being brought out over and over once every 9 months, doesn't make the entire genre bad. The list however is terrible! It's pretty good until you hit the 2000's. Just because millions of people play angry birds, doesn't mean it should ever be put on a list with something like Starcraft, Battlefield, Doom, Quake, Warcraft, Command & Conquer (the original) etc. P.s how is SC2 not on the list for 2010's? or diablo iii? or a host of other great games... Batman? Really? Good game yeah, but not even close to best game of the 2010's so far..... | ||
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WniO
United States2706 Posts
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muzzy
United States640 Posts
On November 16 2012 10:44 MountainDewJunkie wrote: If an FPS or MMORPG wins, it really is the end of days. There have been some really good FPS. Half Life series (both 1 and 2), Quake (for being pretty much the pinnacle of "twitch" shooters), Unreal Tournament... all amazing games. If it goes to some bullshit like Halo (cmon, it's good, but it's not the best...) or even worse, Call of Duty... I'll be annoyed. | ||
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PhiliBiRD
United States2643 Posts
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
On November 16 2012 04:54 Coagulation wrote: I voted for Angry birds. I hope you're joking. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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Zero.Tha.Hero
Canada155 Posts
idiots... | ||
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SimsarO
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
Ocarina of Time Twilight Princess DQ3 DQ4 FF6 FF9 Tactics Ogre Sim City Age of Empire Heroes of Might and Magic FIFA series Need For Speed Fallout 3 Resident Evil IV | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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Noro
Canada991 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:04 politik wrote: No Ocarina of Time, wtf kind of list is this? I'm inclined to agree... After reading through once, I was like, "Huh... Must've missed it." Nope. o.o | ||
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Volskies
Australia41 Posts
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Gulabi
Canada52 Posts
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Alay
United States660 Posts
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On November 16 2012 11:49 Gulabi wrote: I don't understand why everyone is so butt hurt over this poll. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Saying which game is best in a cross-genre poll is really hard to do. If they wanted to select the best game ever it wouldn't be done by a poll as player fan base is way to significant an issue. I put a vote in for Okami because it made me sad to see where it is. That game is amazing and I loved everything about it. Because this whole thing is Time butt in something they have about zero knowledge of and pretending they are some sort of authority, which is disgusting. If IGN make a "100 most influential people" list everyone would be going WTF??! And IGN knows more about influential people than Time knows about video games | ||
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GohgamX
Canada1096 Posts
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6635 Posts
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peekn
United States1152 Posts
This list is such a joke, nostalgia is reeking havoc on this top 100. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
brings games to the masses of casuals. People on this forum must realize there are people out there who never touched games for the majority of their lives until Angry Birds | ||
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
Ah yes, but it's okay we have Solitaire in the 1990s. A card game. Yes, I played the Windows version back on my 386/486 and even in later years as did millions of people, but it's not a video game proper worthy of a list such as this. Not sure why Chrono Trigger has 40% "No Way" votes either. The holy trinity of Square RPGs is FFVI, Chrono Trigger, and FFVII. It's a shame that FFVI, the best, didn't make this list and that CT is barely holding on. No love for 16-bit RPGs? | ||
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Mondieu
Romania803 Posts
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Blackhawk13
United States442 Posts
Warcraft/3 and Battlefield 1942/2 probably too. | ||
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
Edit: On November 16 2012 12:51 Crisium wrote: Look, I don't even consider Ocarina of Time the best Zelda game ever, never mind the best game period. But I'll be damned if I don't acknowledge its claim as the greatest video game of all-time by more publications and fans than any other game. How can TIME be this out of connect with the video game community? Ah yes, but it's okay we have Solitaire in the 1990s. A card game. Yes, I played the Windows version back on my 386/486 and even in later years as did millions of people, but it's not a video game proper worthy of a list such as this. Not sure why Chrono Trigger has 40% "No Way" votes either. The holy trinity of Square RPGs is FFVI, Chrono Trigger, and FFVII. It's a shame that FFVI, the best, didn't make this list and that CT is barely holding on. No love for 16-bit RPGs? IX is clearly the best FF...>_> | ||
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
this list is hilarious. | ||
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Ojahh
Ireland728 Posts
kill me now please | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
Best video game all time is Braid. | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:28 Rassy wrote: Lets be honest here, who of you still play games now and then from the 70,s and 80,s or even 90,s? 70's and 80's, check. As for 90's... StarCraft is a 90's game, so yeah. You're weird. | ||
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emjaytron
Australia544 Posts
PS having diablo 2 and KotOR on there but no baldur's gate makes me a little sad, but its understandable | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
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Irratonalys
Germany902 Posts
*i dont want to live on this planet anymore* | ||
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Sanctimonius
United Kingdom861 Posts
Goldeneye, reinvented the first person and made it fun. Baldur's Gate 2, most fun and engaging game I've ever played. I guess at least one of them made the list, but missing the other two invalidates it for me. ME3? Seriously? | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4329 Posts
would have voted for baldurs gate if it was on there | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4329 Posts
Dune 2, Ultima Online, Grim Fandango should all be in there. And what the heck is solitaire doing in there? there is nothing original about a PC version of solitaire.The whole list is just bizarre. Also AFAIK the 11 million figure listed for starcraft sales includes brood war expansion pack? sales of original somewhere around 7-8 million if i remember correctly.The whole article is littered with errors as are many of the entries for other games.Sloppy. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
Anyway, voting ONE game as the best of all time is dumb. It's like voting for the best human of all time. | ||
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Space Invader
Australia291 Posts
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Angra
United States2652 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:13 nttea wrote: oblivion is like an exploration simulator it's not even fucking worthy of being called a game :/ I hate that game with such a passion i can't describe it with words. Also i didn't find baldurs gate2 so fuck that list :D no self respecting game can possibly think oblivion is anything but pathetic... I'm gonna keep myself from going on a rant here but once i read some dude harping on oblivion like a retard making some pretty bad points, but then there were the legions of brainless morons defending oblivion thinking it is some kind of thinking man's game and the people who don't like it are all adhd cod-kids. A monkey could finish oblivion and would probably enjoy the pretty colors. Fuck oblivion fans. Still better than Skyrim, at least. | ||
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Space Invader
Australia291 Posts
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leveller
Sweden1840 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:42 mythandier wrote: So daft. 1) By the standards of the day the graphics were awesome. 2a) There is beauty in simplicity: even games like Asteroids, Joust, Combat!, Pac-Man, would provide countless hours of play time - moreso than many games today 2b) In the mid-late 80s games became more complex. Games like Star Tropics, Wonderboy, Golden Axe, TMNT Arcade, Zelda, Super Mario 3. Ultima IV takes on average 100 hours to finish. 3) Really? Online play is your argument? go outside In the 80s and even sooooooo far back as the 90s people did this cool thing where they would get together and play games...in person! It's a novel concept for sure. In all seriousness, you should've seen how packed arcades were and how competitive people were over Galaga or Ms. Pac-Man. NES created a 4-controller adapter for 4 player games like Gauntlet...holy crap, how is Gauntlet not on this list. I could go on and on but seriously, video games were a family activity in households lucky enough to have an Atari or NES. I played games with my parents, grandparents, uncles...etc. Games brought people together -- which I could argue they do the opposite now. 4) My wife and I (32 years old) have a retro video game night once a month and host about 10-15 people who come over to play games like Sonic, Toe Jam & Earl, Zombies Ate my Neighbors!, and Super Mario Bros 2. This entire thread about ranking games is very silly. I'd just like to say that you sir sound like a baller | ||
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Nazarene
Denmark996 Posts
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
now its just everyone has their own machine doing different things locked in their bedrooms | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
I stopped going through everything or finishing their writeup on SC because it'll only make me more and more angry. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On November 16 2012 09:36 Fatam wrote: lol what? I saw a list of best games of all times on some big gaming site 2 years ago and Deus Ex was #1.I can't believe Deus Ex is 52% in favor, 48% against. Heresy On November 16 2012 18:23 JieXian wrote: Jesus Christ and those people teach us how to live...I hate the idea of playing angry birds with all my heart but if the only game my father who has never touched games and never will touch games knows about is Angry Birds because their merch is everywhere you've got to agree that it's a great feat. | ||
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Passion
Netherlands1486 Posts
On November 16 2012 22:58 Cheerio wrote: lol what? I saw a list of best games of all times on some big gaming site 2 years ago and Deus Ex was #1. Thus..? | ||
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Reason
United Kingdom2770 Posts
Thus... I find 52% in favour, 48% against suprising, maybe? | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
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IntoTheEmo
Singapore1169 Posts
BW has the best competitive scene though :D. And I don't see Pokemon in there? | ||
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zz_
Sweden1022 Posts
Then I closed the homepage. I hate people. | ||
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padfoota
Taiwan1571 Posts
Fuck this shit | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
On November 16 2012 16:35 Djabanete wrote: 70's and 80's, check. As for 90's... StarCraft is a 90's game, so yeah. You're weird. I play lots of games from 90's on emulator .... | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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garbanzo
United States4046 Posts
Now that I think about it, the metric probably doesn't include as much of a weight on revolutionary as I would. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4329 Posts
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HellRoxYa
Sweden1614 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On November 16 2012 22:58 Cheerio wrote: lol what? I saw a list of best games of all times on some big gaming site 2 years ago and Deus Ex was #1. Jesus Christ and those people teach us how to live... I'm not getting you. nye panyemayu :D | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
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KangaRuthless
United States304 Posts
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
This is nonsense. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
On November 16 2012 05:04 politik wrote: No Ocarina of Time, wtf kind of list is this? Nor A Link To The Past. I really can't take this list very seriously at all. | ||
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Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
On November 18 2012 16:22 Kenpachi wrote: omg somebody kill me, i read the part on BW Brood war's legacy can be summed up in three letters: MLG. | ||
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Oshuy
Netherlands529 Posts
On November 19 2012 01:36 KangaRuthless wrote: These polls are crap. CoD 4 Modern Warfare is ranked in the top ten and above both Pacman and Super Mario Bros >: ( Yeah, the messed up poll results page is fun Alphabetical ordering on numerical values for the win ! | ||
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Perscienter
957 Posts
I played not even half of these titles, still I know about them. Why GTA 3? Why is there trivial stuff like Desktop Tower Defense, Angry Birds or Wii Sports, which will never make it into any final? | ||
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