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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On March 13 2013 02:38 corumjhaelen wrote: Ah, sam, maybe for your sake  Haha, French critics praised "Bienvenue chez les Ch'tis" like it was one of the best movie out there :D Seriously, Cloud Atlas is my favorite 2012 movie  | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On March 13 2013 02:51 Faust852 wrote: Haha, French critics praised "Bienvenue chez les Ch'tis" like it was one of the best movie out there :D Seriously, Cloud Atlas is my favorite 2012 movie No they didn't oO | ||
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Celadan
Norway471 Posts
Way to little of way to much. In other words, they really didn't use the full potential of every timeline. I think it looked cheesy at some parts and the sets seemed to always be in very confined places. But not a bad movie at all, I watched the entire thing without having to fast forward because it got boring, which says alot considering the state of modern cinema. I see where the directors wanted the movie to go, but it is not exceptional by any means. They wanted it to be an epic movie but they didn't execute it as well as they could have. Most likely because of time restrictions a blockbuster movie have, it is usually limited to a couple of hours. However the first 30 minutes of the movie is great (except for the sci-fi parts, didnt like them at all. Might just be me not liking sci-fi at all though  ) And they present it well.For me its a 7/10 | ||
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Jealous
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heroyi
United States1064 Posts
We shouldn't take every word that critics say to heart especially arts that are a bit more complex like Cloud Atlas. I will generally agree with critics on smaller matters like sitcom or fairly linear arts i.e shows, "simple" movies etc... | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On March 13 2013 06:16 heroyi wrote: Critics have been wrong before. Even the "professional" ones. We shouldn't take every word that critics say to heart especially arts that are a bit more complex like Cloud Atlas. I will generally agree with critics on smaller matters like sitcom or fairly linear arts i.e shows, "simple" movies etc... It happens that critic have badly received a movie that was later critically acclaimed, but I doubt the average tler can quote a convincing case of that (I only have 2-3 in mind at the moment) and anyway even the positive critics don't convince me that this is a masterpiece, plus this is the Wachowskis we're talking about, not Renoir... I think I'll just have to forget my reluctance about it and judge for myself before going any further. | ||
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kusto
Russian Federation823 Posts
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
I liked it, didn't think it was the best film ever but it was ambitious and I gave it props. A couple months ago I downloaded it and watched it again and loved it. It just all clicked (understood the plotlines, understand the dialogue - the native speak in the theatres was hard for me to understand - and I was blown away by how smoothly it all went. I even almost teared up at the end this time, which never happens. I'm glad this film is receiving a little more attention now, it really is a great movie. My sister however absolutely hated it. Her reasons for hating it are quite bizarre to me: she said it was racist, had horrible make up, had asian hugo weaving, etc. We still get in fights over the movie because she thinks it is one of the worst movies she's ever seen and I just can't agree/understand that logic at all. Like if you didn't like it I can accept that but the worst movie ever? Slag off. | ||
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Jealous
10401 Posts
On March 13 2013 06:33 Chrispy wrote: I saw this movie with my sister when it was out in theatres. I liked it, didn't think it was the best film ever but it was ambitious and I gave it props. A couple months ago I downloaded it and watched it again and loved it. It just all clicked (understood the plotlines, understand the dialogue - the native speak in the theatres was hard for me to understand - and I was blown away by how smoothly it all went. I even almost teared up at the end this time, which never happens. I'm glad this film is receiving a little more attention now, it really is a great movie. My sister however absolutely hated it. Her reasons for hating it are quite bizarre to me: she said it was racist, had horrible make up, had asian hugo weaving, etc. We still get in fights over the movie because she thinks it is one of the worst movies she's ever seen and I just can't agree/understand that logic at all. Like if you didn't like it I can accept that but the worst movie ever? Slag off. She's a woman, an emotional creature. Logic is less powerful than how they FEEEEL about the movie. Give up now. | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On March 13 2013 07:11 Jealous wrote: She's a woman, an emotional creature. Logic is less powerful than how they FEEEEL about the movie. Give up now. Hello ordinary misoginy ! Thanks for your contribution ! | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
On March 13 2013 06:33 Chrispy wrote: she said it was racist the movie is pretty much the exact opposite of racist. | ||
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FeUerFlieGe
United States1193 Posts
On March 13 2013 07:36 sam!zdat wrote: It's not a masterpiece, but it has nice sets and it's cool and stuff. It's kinda like the matrix, only with the politics more obvious, because nobody seems to have understood what the matrix was about. the movie is pretty much the exact opposite of racist. She probably didn't pay attention to the movie. Or she read up on the controversy about the Asian makeup and how a certain Asian organization was 'offended' by it. | ||
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Jealous
10401 Posts
On March 13 2013 07:19 corumjhaelen wrote: Hello ordinary misoginy ! Thanks for your contribution ! Hey sup you're mad must mean you're a woman sorry that I hurt your FEEEELINGS User was warned for this post User was warned for this post | ||
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powerfulcheeses
Canada101 Posts
I recently rewatched Cloud Atlas on Blu Ray to give it another shot. Honestly, it was an endurance test. It took me so long to get through it, I kept switching to other more enjoyable films, like Wrath of the Titans. I tried to write what I liked about it but the only thing I could think of was the score was really nice at times. Even the cinematography which is usually something you can count on in large epics was one note and phoned in. I suppose that how they managed to make the stories comprehensible and fit could be am example of solid editing, but I found the editing pretty ordinary except for a couple of the very showy and oh-so-clever cuts accross time and space. I thought the acting was skin deep and frankly distracting. Tom Hanks was, in particular, very grown worthy. The scene between his scientist character and Halle Berry was one of the times where I realized I had better movies to watch that night. The prosthetics and make-up weren't believable and ejected me from the story each time a new incarnation of JIm Sturgess popped up. I wonder whether that is just to my own familiarity with the stars or whether the movie would have been better suited casting unknowns or different actors for the different incarnations of the same character (like I'm Not There). Also I'm not sure if the acting was as silly as I think or if it's just the film itself that was silly. The film is so unelievably on the nose it becomes painful to watch. The dialogue is on the nose, the editing is on the nose, the direction is on the nose. It's almost like they expected the audience to be so confused by the basic premise that they felt any subtlety would go over their heads and they wouldn't "get" it. The problem for me is that there wasn't much to "get" in the first place. The themes are all so unoffensive and predictable that I can't fathom anyone seriously getting excited over them. History repeats itself, what you do has meaning beyond, stories can connect disparate places people and times, freedom is good, how you live your life has consequences. I mean you can glean most of that by watching the trailer. At the same time the film is extremely self-important. How they managed to make such an epic, sweeping film, with incessant nagging about the themes in the dialogue without provoking any new or interesting ideas is astonishing. It's worth watching as an example of how a whole lot can end up meaning very little. It actually gets me worked up just writing about it because it seems to assume the viewer is in preschool. Anyways I could go on I feel like I vented enough. TLDR: Cloud Atlas is less enjoyable than Wrath of the Titans | ||
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On March 13 2013 18:37 powerfulcheeses wrote: TLDR: Cloud Atlas is less enjoyable than Wrath of the Titans Well that pretty much says it all. Wrath of the Titans is a boring plot-less action flick. The epitome of everything that is wrong with modern Cinema. Show some pretty effects and hope it's enough forget about plot or character development ! I liked Cloud Atlas, not nearly as much as i would have hoped but it's a good movie. | ||
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DemigodcelpH
1138 Posts
On March 12 2013 09:13 DemigodcelpH wrote: This is literally the best movie I've ever seen in my life, and I've seen a lot of great movies. It's the only thing I'd consider rating a 10. | ||
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JazzNL
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Spekulatius
Germany2413 Posts
But I'm open to being convinced otherwise. Can anyone who claims to have "understood" the movie try and explain what is so "deep" about it? If it's only about the Karma thing, I don't see what the hype is all about and why it needed 6 plots(which for themselves were more than mediocre, except maybe for the composer's part) to tell one story? + Show Spoiler + (I'll be up in a few hours, will be checking for answers then) | ||
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Daray
6006 Posts
On March 16 2013 10:12 Spekulatius wrote: That movie is a waste of time and money imo. But I'm open to being convinced otherwise. Can anyone who claims to have "understood" the movie try and explain what is so "deep" about it? If it's only about the Karma thing, I don't see what the hype is all about and why it needed 6 plots(which for themselves were more than mediocre, except maybe for the composer's part) to tell one story? + Show Spoiler + (I'll be up in a few hours, will be checking for answers then) Trying to convince someone why a movie is good is a waste of time... it's like trying to explain why a joke was funny. Hmm, I guess it's worse than that. There's not much to "understand" nor is there a "deep" meaning, if you didnt like it then it's not your cup of tea, just move on... geez. | ||
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Spekulatius
Germany2413 Posts
On March 16 2013 10:26 Daray wrote: Trying to convince someone why a movie is good is a waste of time... it's like trying to explain why a joke was funny. Hmm, I guess it's worse than that. There's not much to "understand" nor is there a "deep" meaning, if you didnt like it then it's not your cup of tea, just move on... geez. No need to "geez" me. I was genuinely trying to find out why some people find it to be such a meaningful movie which made me weary if I missed something. It probably wouldn't change my opinion of it much but it could make me disrespect the people less who say "oooh Cloud Atlas is so deep if you didn't like the movie you simply didn't get it". | ||
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