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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 03:00:30
March 11 2013 02:55 GMT
#341
Watched it last night. Very much enjoyed it. It didn't quite come off as epic as I'd hoped but I greatly enjoyed watching it and piecing everything together afterwards. + Show Spoiler +
My heart absolutely broke when Sixsmith barely missed Robert before his suicide.

"Finished in a frenzy that reminded me of our last night in Cambridge. Watched my final sunrise. Enjoyed a last cigarette. Didn't think the view could be any more perfect 'till I saw that beat-up trilby. Honestly Sixsmith, as ridiculous as that thing makes you look, I don't believe I've ever seen anything more beautiful.
Watched you for as long as I dared. I don't believe it was a fluke that I saw you first."

The whole scene leading up to the suicide was incredibly powerful.
Long live the King of Wings
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12891 Posts
March 11 2013 03:37 GMT
#342
I don't know if this movie is getting high rated is because the message itself is new to most of you.
But coming from an Asian background, we always had a thought that the good and bad deeds you did today will affect the world and yourself tomorrow.
I remember someone sitting next to me in the cinema said in mid way: "oh so this is the xxx theory". So the movie message was right down clear at the start for us and we had to sit through around 2 hours to start seeing how the story unfolds to deliver that message.

The movie overall had way too many plots, while all of them are similar in a degree, there weren't much happening in most of the plots. The big issue is then it takes almost half the movie to just get to know each of the character well (luckily the characters are all pretty one dimensional, this guy good, this guy bad, no middle ground), and the high points all occurs at the final 30 mins or so, which makes the movie feels very slow.

There's the biggest issue with it imo, you aren't captured much into any of the plots, I thought the old man's plot (the writer) is especially out of the place.

I think the book's just not meant to be in a movie format.
The only really entertaining plots for me were the Sixsmith and Sonmi because they were more outstanding.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
DemigodcelpH
Profile Joined August 2011
1138 Posts
March 12 2013 00:13 GMT
#343
This is literally the best movie I've ever seen in my life, and I've seen a lot of great movies. It's the only thing I'd consider rating a 10.
heroyi
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1064 Posts
March 12 2013 05:52 GMT
#344
On March 12 2013 09:13 DemigodcelpH wrote:
This is literally the best movie I've ever seen in my life, and I've seen a lot of great movies. It's the only thing I'd consider rating a 10.

Its so sad that this movie barely recovered its budget. I feel like they should have just gone the extra mile with the advertisement...

Or maybe I am being too optimistic about the average population (a lot of people didn't "understand" the movie).


off topic:

was anyone else kinda disturbed how they tried to depict asians in the film...kinda lazy of them to just try to use makeup on all the actors to change the racial look...i.e narrow the eye...

I didn't even understand they were suppose to be Koreans until I saw it was suppose to be Seoul. Thought Koreans somehow evolved into an alien species... epic fail
wat wat in my pants
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
March 12 2013 14:10 GMT
#345
Saw it, understood it and felt like it was overrated. Maybe a 7.5/8 out of 10 and that's being generous because it tried something a bit different. Still the main issue I had was that it was really just a bunch of mediocre stories strung together with vague symbolism and the same actors. At least it made the viewer have to pay attention and follow a whole bunch of threads but the the threads themselves were all fairly shallow. We just didn't get enough time with any single narrative for any of them to develop beyond cliche'd short stories.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 14:19:04
March 12 2013 14:18 GMT
#346
I was tempted to see this partly because there was a shimmer of potential, partly because I want to take position in the debate, but every serious (French) critic I've read so far is horrendous and confirm my worst fear :/
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
IamaGrapeMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada165 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 15:30:21
March 12 2013 15:28 GMT
#347
On March 12 2013 14:52 heroyi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 09:13 DemigodcelpH wrote:
This is literally the best movie I've ever seen in my life, and I've seen a lot of great movies. It's the only thing I'd consider rating a 10.

Its so sad that this movie barely recovered its budget. I feel like they should have just gone the extra mile with the advertisement...

Or maybe I am being too optimistic about the average population (a lot of people didn't "understand" the movie).


off topic:

was anyone else kinda disturbed how they tried to depict asians in the film...kinda lazy of them to just try to use makeup on all the actors to change the racial look...i.e narrow the eye...

I didn't even understand they were suppose to be Koreans until I saw it was suppose to be Seoul. Thought Koreans somehow evolved into an alien species... epic fail


that was my experience exactly - i wasn't sure what it was, but i definitely considered at some point that some weird evolution took place (them being korean or any kind of asian didn';t even cross my mind actually)... until i realized it was just a really bad makeup job - but maybe that's just me because i'm korean; or otherwise know what an asian person looks like, lol.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
March 12 2013 15:29 GMT
#348
Really great movie. Kept me thinking for quite a while afterwards, and I watched it with a group of friends and everyone was wanting to talk about it afterwards, which can only be a good thing.

Some of the make up was a bit dodgey, and Tom Hanks' northern irish accent was painfully bad. But looking beyond that at the actual ideas you have to say it's a great film. I'm tempted to read the book now.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 15:33:01
March 12 2013 15:32 GMT
#349
4/5 from me.

Some stories were better than others, but I especially liked Bae Doo-na's and the composer's stories. Music was great. Acting was overall very good. Not sure if the whole overarching story was very compelling, but each part of the whole made it good.

Bae Doo-na definitely the star of the movie.

Would recommend, and would watch again.
Flash | Mvp
yOngKIN
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (North)656 Posts
March 12 2013 15:55 GMT
#350
just saw this. gerat film!
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
March 12 2013 16:04 GMT
#351
On March 11 2013 12:37 ETisME wrote:
I don't know if this movie is getting high rated is because the message itself is new to most of you.
But coming from an Asian background, we always had a thought that the good and bad deeds you did today will affect the world and yourself tomorrow.
I remember someone sitting next to me in the cinema said in mid way: "oh so this is the xxx theory". So the movie message was right down clear at the start for us and we had to sit through around 2 hours to start seeing how the story unfolds to deliver that message.

The movie overall had way too many plots, while all of them are similar in a degree, there weren't much happening in most of the plots. The big issue is then it takes almost half the movie to just get to know each of the character well (luckily the characters are all pretty one dimensional, this guy good, this guy bad, no middle ground), and the high points all occurs at the final 30 mins or so, which makes the movie feels very slow.

There's the biggest issue with it imo, you aren't captured much into any of the plots, I thought the old man's plot (the writer) is especially out of the place.

I think the book's just not meant to be in a movie format.
The only really entertaining plots for me were the Sixsmith and Sonmi because they were more outstanding.


im interested, what movie/s would you recommend that are a bit similar to this, but that you thought were good or better?
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EdaPoe
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands82 Posts
March 12 2013 16:05 GMT
#352
On March 12 2013 23:18 corumjhaelen wrote:
I was tempted to see this partly because there was a shimmer of potential, partly because I want to take position in the debate, but every serious (French) critic I've read so far is horrendous and confirm my worst fear :/


Since when does art need mediators such as 'critics' brother? Just watch the damn thing for the sake of your own artistic metabolism.

On topic, I thought it could be better with some more attention on stuff others have already mentioned such as make-up and so on, but, overall, it left me positive feelings.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
March 12 2013 16:05 GMT
#353
On March 12 2013 23:18 corumjhaelen wrote:
I was tempted to see this partly because there was a shimmer of potential, partly because I want to take position in the debate, but every serious (French) critic I've read so far is horrendous and confirm my worst fear :/


eh, just watch it, its pretty great
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-12 16:19:38
March 12 2013 16:18 GMT
#354
On March 13 2013 01:05 EdaPoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2013 23:18 corumjhaelen wrote:
I was tempted to see this partly because there was a shimmer of potential, partly because I want to take position in the debate, but every serious (French) critic I've read so far is horrendous and confirm my worst fear :/


Since when does art need mediators such as 'critics' brother? Just watch the damn thing for the sake of your own artistic metabolism.

There are plenty of reason we need critics, so I'm tempted to say since forever.
In this specific case, because I don't have time to got watch every movie that goes out and that I'd rather see something good.
Also I'm a bit picky, and while I think the Wachowski's can do interesting stuff, I have my doubts about their artistic capabilities...
Edit : that being said I might still watch it if I have the occasion.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
EdaPoe
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands82 Posts
March 12 2013 16:28 GMT
#355
With the risk of going off-topic, I would like to ask you, and you may or may not reply in PM, what sort of criteria do you think these seemingly necessary critics use to 'judge' an artwork? And why do you think these criteria are better than your own, or your friends'? Is it because they have studied history of art (which is not the same as art)?

Anyway, I get your point about practical necessity, and forgive me if I come out as aggressive or whatnot.
ThisIsJimmy
Profile Joined July 2004
United States546 Posts
March 12 2013 16:29 GMT
#356
This was one of my favorite movies ever. I can't believe how low it got rated/reviewed.
Twitter @_ThisIsJimmy_
Thor.Rush
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden702 Posts
March 12 2013 17:15 GMT
#357
The message is simple and nothing new, yet the way it is used in this movie makes it highly entertaining. For me, it has a similar feel to V for Vendetta, though definitely not as good.

I enjoyed most of the plots, but even if I only enjoyed the plot with the old people, I think I'd still see it. Lol.

8.5/10
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Syn Harvest
Profile Joined July 2012
United States191 Posts
March 12 2013 17:24 GMT
#358
The book is frustrating and I don't really like the characters. It is also lame that I read a story line then have to wait 250 pages for it to be resolved. I am also failing to see the connection between the characters besides the birthmark.
Open your heart and embrace the darkness
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
March 12 2013 17:27 GMT
#359
On March 12 2013 23:18 corumjhaelen wrote:
I was tempted to see this partly because there was a shimmer of potential, partly because I want to take position in the debate, but every serious (French) critic I've read so far is horrendous and confirm my worst fear :/


i thought it was good
shikata ga nai
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
March 12 2013 17:38 GMT
#360
Ah, sam, maybe for your sake
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
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