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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
December 08 2011 07:51 GMT
#241
Sounds really dangerous and irresponsible...amazing that only thing damaged was property.
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gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 08:13:05
December 08 2011 08:11 GMT
#242
Sort me reminds me of that episode where they had a runaway car that jumped over a hill and someone went "What's behind that hill?!?" At the time I thought they were acting but now I'm not so sure.

I guess this could potentially lead to people being less inclined to lend them big expensive objects for their experiements if they hear about this. I know they've had problems before lending jet planes and whatnot so it shouldn't get easier after this not matter what caused the accident.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 08 2011 08:23 GMT
#243
hahahah thats crazy. i love mythbusters. hope nobody presses charges
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JuJuZerg
Profile Joined September 2008
United States48 Posts
December 08 2011 08:33 GMT
#244
Holy shit... really fortunate not to hit anyone.... cant even imagine what would of happened if a person was on the path of that cannon ball >.<.
Regime
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia185 Posts
December 08 2011 10:07 GMT
#245
very hard to believe that sumthin like this could happen after all there safety regulations
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
December 08 2011 10:44 GMT
#246
On December 08 2011 19:07 Regime wrote:
very hard to believe that sumthin like this could happen after all there safety regulations


When dealing with firearms (and a cannon, like artillery, is really just a really really big gun), you can have a perfect design and still the odds dictate that someday, at somepoint, something crazy will happen.

Like a hangfire. Or the "magic bullet" theory. Or a cannonball missing the target, plowing through a wall, and bouncing over the 700 foot earthen berm and then careening down a street, through a house, off the roof of another house, and then stopping on the floorboards of a toyota sienna. Having seen the google earth aerial imagery of the area, it could only get weirder if at some point it went through a basketball hoop so I could add "and nothing but net."

Even experts (and if you doubt Jamie, Adam, Tori, Grant, and Kari are experts, be assured there are other experts involved (like JD Nelson or that FBI Frank guy) and others still that have been consulted) sometimes have accidents. As for this being somehow really dangerous... I used to live near one of the USAF's bombing ranges. They have had target drones fished out of the Gulf, people hiking suddenly finding a bomb that failed to detonate, and they close down some roads because they're about to launch a hellfire missile that will be passing overhead. There's "wtf were you thinking" and then there's "acceptable risk due to extremely small chances anything will go wrong". Of course, with the mythbusters, failure is always an option... which is why they take such pains to minimize those risks. (Risk, however, can never be eliminated.)

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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 10:56:02
December 08 2011 10:55 GMT
#247
On December 08 2011 10:07 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 09:54 Sbrubbles wrote:
On December 08 2011 09:19 Myles wrote:
On December 08 2011 09:14 trucane wrote:
On December 08 2011 09:12 feanor1 wrote:
On December 08 2011 09:10 trucane wrote:
I hope they sue them for everything they got although I'd rather see a couple of years in prison for the ones responsible for this

Really. I imagine this was an accident. They always have explosives experts on hand, think years in prison for property damage that they can pay for is excessive.


Of course it was an accident but they endangered the lives of many people. If a private person would have done something like this they would be in soooo much trouble so it's not more than fair that these guys get some jail time or have to pay a couple million to every person in that neighborhood

I'm sure they followed all the normal precautions. If not, they could be sued/prosecuted for negligence. And if a private person followed the same precautions, they wouldn't get sued/prosecuted either.


There are no "standard" precautions for what they're doing. All we know is, they didn't have enough precautions and can/should be sued/prosecuted for negligence. They put unknowing bystanders in mortal danger and no ammount of "normal precautions" can forgive that, legally or morally.
They shouldn't do what they do if there's a remote chance of someone getting hurt (except maybe the production crew themselves).

They've done these types of things numerous times. There are definitely standard precautions. The government gave them permits to perform such an act, so they didn't feel there was a legitimate public threat. I'm not one to say the governments always right, but if they permitted it then the MythBusters certainly can't be held liable. I feel like I'm getting trolled here.


I don't know much about american law, but I doubt they'd go unpunished if someone had lost a leg/died. Thus they should also be punished for the risk they made those people unwillingly incur. The goverment giving them the "go-ahead" doesn't exempt them from the consequence of their actions as far as I know (though they can/will share in the blame).

If someone with an american law degree could enlighten us, that would be super.
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thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 11:06:14
December 08 2011 11:05 GMT
#248
It looks like the wall was....









busted.

luckily no one got hurt though.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 11:40:46
December 08 2011 11:31 GMT
#249
On December 08 2011 19:55 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 10:07 Myles wrote:
On December 08 2011 09:54 Sbrubbles wrote:
On December 08 2011 09:19 Myles wrote:
On December 08 2011 09:14 trucane wrote:
On December 08 2011 09:12 feanor1 wrote:
On December 08 2011 09:10 trucane wrote:
I hope they sue them for everything they got although I'd rather see a couple of years in prison for the ones responsible for this

Really. I imagine this was an accident. They always have explosives experts on hand, think years in prison for property damage that they can pay for is excessive.


Of course it was an accident but they endangered the lives of many people. If a private person would have done something like this they would be in soooo much trouble so it's not more than fair that these guys get some jail time or have to pay a couple million to every person in that neighborhood

I'm sure they followed all the normal precautions. If not, they could be sued/prosecuted for negligence. And if a private person followed the same precautions, they wouldn't get sued/prosecuted either.


There are no "standard" precautions for what they're doing. All we know is, they didn't have enough precautions and can/should be sued/prosecuted for negligence. They put unknowing bystanders in mortal danger and no ammount of "normal precautions" can forgive that, legally or morally.
They shouldn't do what they do if there's a remote chance of someone getting hurt (except maybe the production crew themselves).

They've done these types of things numerous times. There are definitely standard precautions. The government gave them permits to perform such an act, so they didn't feel there was a legitimate public threat. I'm not one to say the governments always right, but if they permitted it then the MythBusters certainly can't be held liable. I feel like I'm getting trolled here.


I don't know much about american law, but I doubt they'd go unpunished if someone had lost a leg/died. Thus they should also be punished for the risk they made those people unwillingly incur. The goverment giving them the "go-ahead" doesn't exempt them from the consequence of their actions as far as I know (though they can/will share in the blame).

If someone with an american law degree could enlighten us, that would be super.

They will certainly be investigated to ensure that all safety procedures were followed. If they weren't, then they will likely be charged with negligence. I don't see how it's even a question of liability if they did follow procedures. It'd be like prosecuting you for someone dying in a car wreck caused by ice when you weren't driving dangerously - it's no ones fault, just a tragic accident.
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Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
December 08 2011 20:59 GMT
#250
I really hope they don't cancel the show because of this...
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Astragoth
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands89 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 21:24:09
December 08 2011 21:16 GMT
#251
We do not eyeball it!
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
December 09 2011 00:59 GMT
#252
On December 09 2011 05:59 Keitzer wrote:
I really hope they don't cancel the show because of this...

I think everyone's taking this much too seriously, no way it'll get canceled. This one episode might have to pick a different myth to test, but that's about it. They'll pay all the damages and whatever else, and might not be able to test at that specific location pointing in that specific direction.
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