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Abraxas514
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada475 Posts
November 28 2013 00:04 GMT
#941
Not entirely, whisky starts off as 'beer' before it is distilled
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 28 2013 00:07 GMT
#942
On November 28 2013 09:04 Abraxas514 wrote:
Not entirely, whisky starts off as 'beer' before it is distilled

Like actually beer?
We call the mash to make white liquor(read illegal moonshine lol) beer here, and its basically just fruit sugar and yeast in tub lol
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3996 Posts
November 28 2013 00:16 GMT
#943
It's very similar to beer, although no hops is added for that bitter taste, like in beer. It wouldn't get through the distilling process anyway. Also, different types of yeast and grain can be used, but the 'wash' is a beer-like liquid with an alcohol percentage of about 8%.
Abraxas514
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada475 Posts
November 28 2013 21:53 GMT
#944
If you lautered the wash you would get an odd tasting beer. And probably lose a ton of money.
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JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
November 28 2013 22:17 GMT
#945
On November 26 2013 22:46 Nouar wrote:
Shameless ad : go to this bar. Schlappen, in Freiburg, Germany. They have a few whiskies ;-D

[image loading]


Ha! Never expected to see this one on TL^^ Since I´m living there "Schlappen" is probably my fav bar. Although, most of the time I order Absinthe - Mata Hari.
When I order Whiskey I usually order one of the samples with ~ five different Whiskies.
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
November 30 2013 00:09 GMT
#946
Going to order Octomore 6.1 on monday, really looking forward to it. Tasted 4.1, bougth 4.2 and 5.1 and loved them all. Pretty sure I'm going to like the 6.1 as well
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3996 Posts
November 30 2013 01:23 GMT
#947
I think Octomore is a big marketing stunt. Sure, the malt contains over 100 ppm phenol, up to 170. Which is really strong, about 4x as much as most of the Islay malt. But the distiller insists on distilling 4 times, which makes sure the amount of phenol that makes it to the spirit is actually not that high at all. Definitely Islay-worthy, mind you, but the extreme prices for this are way over the top.

Not that I wouldn't like to taste the 6.1 btw .

nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-30 02:12:59
November 30 2013 02:12 GMT
#948
On November 28 2013 09:04 Abraxas514 wrote:
Not entirely, whisky starts off as 'beer' before it is distilled


i thought all whiskey starts off as a vodka before its distilled? i went to a distillery and thats what I was told at least.
Abraxas514
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada475 Posts
November 30 2013 03:58 GMT
#949
On November 30 2013 11:12 nGBeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2013 09:04 Abraxas514 wrote:
Not entirely, whisky starts off as 'beer' before it is distilled


i thought all whiskey starts off as a vodka before its distilled? i went to a distillery and thats what I was told at least.


Think about what you just said. Vodka is a distilled, unaged spirit made from potatoes or grain. Whisky is a distilled, aged spirit made from germinated barley, with distilled grain added to "blend".

So technically, a blended whisky before aged can be considered malt + grain vodka, but then again grain vodka is basically a definition-free beverage (as in, it can be made from almost anything).

In order to start off as vodka, it would need to be already distilled. The logics!
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OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
November 30 2013 22:54 GMT
#950
On November 30 2013 10:23 aseq wrote:
I think Octomore is a big marketing stunt. Sure, the malt contains over 100 ppm phenol, up to 170. Which is really strong, about 4x as much as most of the Islay malt. But the distiller insists on distilling 4 times, which makes sure the amount of phenol that makes it to the spirit is actually not that high at all. Definitely Islay-worthy, mind you, but the extreme prices for this are way over the top.

Not that I wouldn't like to taste the 6.1 btw .



You have tasted an Octomore?
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3996 Posts
December 01 2013 00:37 GMT
#951
On December 01 2013 07:54 OminouS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2013 10:23 aseq wrote:
I think Octomore is a big marketing stunt. Sure, the malt contains over 100 ppm phenol, up to 170. Which is really strong, about 4x as much as most of the Islay malt. But the distiller insists on distilling 4 times, which makes sure the amount of phenol that makes it to the spirit is actually not that high at all. Definitely Islay-worthy, mind you, but the extreme prices for this are way over the top.

Not that I wouldn't like to taste the 6.1 btw .



You have tasted an Octomore?


Yup, the 4.1 at some point. I didn't know that many whiskies back then, so I'm sure my judgement wasn't very refined, but I can remember it was good but not 'extremely' special to me. Especially when you consider the price. But maybe I should just try it again. I have a bottle of Port Charlotte which I would like to compare it against (which probably costs about 4 times less).
Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-01 01:35:31
December 01 2013 01:35 GMT
#952
On November 26 2013 21:32 Lassepetri wrote:
Anyone who has experience with Tobermory 10? Its not cheap imo (about 60 dollars) and thats even with a discount. I want to broaden my Isle-collection though, and this one isn't usually available in Denmark. Opinions?

Btw so happy to see this thread bumped once in a while.


I liked the Tobermory 10. From what I remember it was pale yellow in color, clean, light spice, un-smokey peat (Ledaig is the peated version), some grassy sweetness. At 92pf it seemed about right with a pleasant heat. $60 is the upper end of what I would spend on it - the store I work at in the states charges less (about $52 i think) and we even have a relatively high markup. Still compared to some of the other island stuff around it's money well spent imo.
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OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
December 01 2013 10:22 GMT
#953
On December 01 2013 09:37 aseq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2013 07:54 OminouS wrote:
On November 30 2013 10:23 aseq wrote:
I think Octomore is a big marketing stunt. Sure, the malt contains over 100 ppm phenol, up to 170. Which is really strong, about 4x as much as most of the Islay malt. But the distiller insists on distilling 4 times, which makes sure the amount of phenol that makes it to the spirit is actually not that high at all. Definitely Islay-worthy, mind you, but the extreme prices for this are way over the top.

Not that I wouldn't like to taste the 6.1 btw .



You have tasted an Octomore?


Yup, the 4.1 at some point. I didn't know that many whiskies back then, so I'm sure my judgement wasn't very refined, but I can remember it was good but not 'extremely' special to me. Especially when you consider the price. But maybe I should just try it again. I have a bottle of Port Charlotte which I would like to compare it against (which probably costs about 4 times less).



Ok. In Sweden the price difference for Port Charlotte and Octomore isn't that big.

I do agree that Octomore is well marketed. However, there is not a single whisky that even comes close to the heavily peated taste that is Octomore. I've tasted Supernova from Ardbeg, and even though that one is a treat in itself, you can't compare it to the arson and wildfire that stays on your tounge when you had a taste from Octomore.

So yes, maybe a bit overpriced, still a clear favorite of mine just because you can't compare it to anyhting else.
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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
December 01 2013 13:23 GMT
#954
On November 26 2013 22:46 Nouar wrote:
Shameless ad : go to this bar. Schlappen, in Freiburg, Germany. They have a few whiskies ;-D

[image loading]

<advertisement> If you are a little bit more to the north, go to Aschaffenburg and the Dead End Rock And Blues bar! They hail around 500(!) Whiskys!
Also they just got voted Gemany's best Whiskybar 2013!
There is great food too! </advertisement>
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Manijak
Profile Joined October 2010
Slovenia112 Posts
December 07 2013 21:53 GMT
#955
Tried Connemara, very interesting, especially the smell.
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
January 13 2014 23:03 GMT
#956
My GF (and future wife) bought me a 15 year old Royal Lochnagar as a gift.

Very different from the ones I usually go for (smoke, Islay, peat), this one was very fruity, extremly well balanced. I like it a lot. Have to wait until I take it home to try in a real glass but from what the prelude told me, it's the real thing.

Aint she the best?
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
January 14 2014 08:11 GMT
#957
Anyone from Spain around here? What are whisky prices in Spain like? Can you give me a number for a few popular choices like Talisker 10, Lagavulin 16, Glenfiddich 12?
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
January 14 2014 08:27 GMT
#958
I used to dislike Wiskey, but it really is an aquired taste. The turning point for me was when I tasted Ardbeg, which is just hands down my favorite wiskey.
msl
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany477 Posts
January 14 2014 08:30 GMT
#959
I went out with a friend yesterday to try some Whiskys in a bar with a nice selection.The Ardberg Corryvreckan turned out to be quite nice. But what really got me that Rosebank is apparently now selling for 26 € for 2 cl. Such a shame they stoped making it.
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PandaCore
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany553 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 15:39:24
January 16 2014 15:36 GMT
#960
I recently wondered if there is something similar to a wine club for whisk(e)y. Like becoming a member and paying a monthly fee (probably pretty high compared to wine) and receiving a selected whisk(e)y each month in the mail.

If there is not, I was planning to set aside a few bucks each month and get a different bottle of whisk(e)y each month or bimonthly to grow my collection.

Also thanks to christmas and my visit to Dublin over new years, I stocked up on a few new ones:
Suntory Yamazaki - 12 years
The Singleton of Dufftown - 12 years
Jameson Distillery Reserve - 12 years
I has a flavor
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