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TL-Lio still! Mostly focussing on Classical Latin atm, though still watering my Norwegian & Finnish plants.
I still love the idea of memrise, however the latests changes concerning the editing of own wordlists really annoy me. As I need to learn my Latin - German lists according to my textbook, I make them myself but now I can't edit them unless I'm a curator. I already applied for it about 2 weeks ago, however I haven't even received a response yet. Pretty annoying.
But I still lay my hopes in the "new memrise" version that is going to come, even though I really dislike some of the ideas they want to implement (like the marketplace etc).
But anyways, the point-based system is a good thing for me as it really motivates me to get things done.
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I'm coming to the end of my Elementary German course (1026 words) which has been helpful for increasing my vocabulary. I think I know more words now that I did after four years at school.
The thing is, I know I haven't gone over every word I learnt then and I think there are probably 200~ words I haven't relearned. The elementary course is kind of flawed (you learn three days of the week, no months etc and "the" "he" "and" etc right at the end) and there were some really ambiguous translations or ones that just didn't make any sense - translating one acronym to another I don't recognise (DDR and DRG or something) or translating german to shortened or a German name "Staatsicherheit to Stasi" doesn't help an english person who has no idea what the Stasi is.
Either way, should I know make my own wordlists from things I pick up in news articles (more functional) or just move onto the next German course for a more general improvement?
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I do both. I keep plowing through the general vocab lists already available, but keep my own personal list of words I come across or want to learn for textbook/grammar reasons. My personal list is relatively small, so it's not enough to practice/learn alone from, but it's great for when you want to prioritize learning certain words.
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I also keep a personal list and go through the official vocabulary lists at the same time. When you create a new course, just put an underscore as the first character so that your course won't be visible to everyone else.
As for the official courses themselves, many have words in silly orders because of copyright concerns. Although collections of data are not copyrightable, creative arrangements of the data can be. As a result, courses have a "randomize" button. Unfortunately, this has been done in many cases where it wasn't necessary, and there are courses remaining on the site that arguably do violate someone's copyright.
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Thank you for this, excited to learn German ^_^
Oh, my account is - TL-JustJoshin :D
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Fuckkk I'm so bad. I am neglecting my garden. I should go water it now, just don't feel like it. Why motivation whyyyy.
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only some languages have sound.
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On September 18 2012 18:35 Flicky wrote:
I'm coming to the end of my Elementary German course (1026 words) which has been helpful for increasing my vocabulary. I think I know more words now that I did after four years at school.
The thing is, I know I haven't gone over every word I learnt then and I think there are probably 200~ words I haven't relearned. The elementary course is kind of flawed (you learn three days of the week, no months etc and "the" "he" "and" etc right at the end) and there were some really ambiguous translations or ones that just didn't make any sense - translating one acronym to another I don't recognise (DDR and DRG or something) or translating german to shortened or a German name "Staatsicherheit to Stasi" doesn't help an english person who has no idea what the Stasi is.
Either way, should I know make my own wordlists from things I pick up in news articles (more functional) or just move onto the next German course for a more general improvement?
what course was that?
thats a lot of complicated words that you only need when talking about germanys history.
Seems rather useless for a beginner course.
anyways, DDR is the abbreviation for eastern germany when it was seperated and stasi was their (not so) secret police.
you really dont need to know the full words, we germans love to string together a LOT of words to make a new one, not very beginner friendly.
anyways, i love the site, i always had problems with learning thing by heart. But this site does almost all the work for me, just have spend 30 minutes a day on it and success is guaranteed.
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On October 04 2012 01:43 LaNague wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 18:35 Flicky wrote:
I'm coming to the end of my Elementary German course (1026 words) which has been helpful for increasing my vocabulary. I think I know more words now that I did after four years at school.
The thing is, I know I haven't gone over every word I learnt then and I think there are probably 200~ words I haven't relearned. The elementary course is kind of flawed (you learn three days of the week, no months etc and "the" "he" "and" etc right at the end) and there were some really ambiguous translations or ones that just didn't make any sense - translating one acronym to another I don't recognise (DDR and DRG or something) or translating german to shortened or a German name "Staatsicherheit to Stasi" doesn't help an english person who has no idea what the Stasi is.
Either way, should I know make my own wordlists from things I pick up in news articles (more functional) or just move onto the next German course for a more general improvement? what course was that? thats a lot of complicated words that you only need when talking about germanys history. Seems rather useless for a beginner course.
It was just the Elementary German course that the website gives you if you say you want to learn german. It would've been nice to have them try and explain the suffixes and prefixes.
On a similar note, does anyone know a text site that will teach me german grammar? I mostly learn during breaks at work so the audio courses aren't so good. I've been really slacking on finishing my Michel Thomas. Even if it's just simple things to keep me up to date. My pronunciation is still intact from school, my vocabulary is improving and my word recognition is... developing but if my grammar is drops off then most of that is moot. I know trying to talk to people is one of the best ways for it but I can't get away with that at work.
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bookmarked and made it my starting page.
Gonna use this to expand my japanese vocabulary, thanks dude!
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Omg this is amazing and fun. Why havent i looked into this sooner.
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Anyone having questions about german, feel free to PM me and I try to help.
however I don't know the exact grammar rules. german grammar is full of irregular or confusing stuff, IMO its best learned through listening/reading a ton and after a while you instinctively do it right (thats actually how babys learn it)
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Just got on to this, but I'm a little confused with how to use it in the best way. When learning a language that uses a different alphabet is it better to begin with learning the foreign alphabet or go straight into vocab?
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Whenever I get one wrong, it goes to the definition page for the word in question, and then I hit enter and it goes to the next exercise, but for that next exercise all of the hotkeys are disabled until I click on the screen. I like memrisisising without using mouse 
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I'm really lookin forward to memrise 1.0 right now. The old version has annoyed me so much these days - not only that my application for becoming a curator has now been unanswered for three weeks but the contant downtime of the site because of the leaderbord etc was really annoying. I know it's a beta and I've been using it long enough now to kinda get used to it but ... yeah, I had two important Latin exams on Monday and Thursday and the fact that memrise refused to work properly for almost the entire weekend was really bad timing :D
On October 04 2012 18:47 Flicky wrote:
It was just the Elementary German course that the website gives you if you say you want to learn german. It would've been nice to have them try and explain the suffixes and prefixes.
On a similar note, does anyone know a text site that will teach me german grammar?
Concerning the German grammar - I'll have a look for some useful sites, otherwise feel free to pm me aswell, as I will be a German teacher soon. If your only need atm is to get to know the differences between the prefixes better, I will have a look into this part first. If you are as advanced as being able to tell which part of grammar is your 'worst', it might help a lot 
On October 06 2012 13:18 Artifice wrote:I like memrisisising without using mouse
That's actually one of the things I already suggested to the memrise staff as a possible improvement - you should feel free to do so as well! I would love to use memrise by hotkeys only, however there are some that just refuse to work properly sometimes.
On October 06 2012 13:08 Smokincoyote wrote:
Just got on to this, but I'm a little confused with how to use it in the best way. When learning a language that uses a different alphabet is it better to begin with learning the foreign alphabet or go straight into vocab?
This might be a part of personal preference. For some people it might be useful to integrate learning the new alphabet by learning new vocab already, whilst others might prefer doing it one after another. My personal preference would be the mixture, however, if you are completely new to it I would suggest starting out by learning the alphabet - and the keyboard layout connected to it - first and then, if you notice this being inappropriate for you, switching to the other option.
Hope you will have a lot of fun and will rack up lots of points
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I find myself spending time on memrise instead of gaming, which is awsome.
Anyone know about how many new words is realistic to aim for per day?
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On October 06 2012 22:24 theJob wrote:
I find myself spending time on memrise instead of gaming, which is awsome.
Anyone know about how many new words is realistic to aim for per day?
Not too many, maybe 5 - 15. If you get too enthusiastic and start learning too much you'll 'burn out' very soon and youll just quit. At least, thats what happens to alot of people.
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On October 06 2012 22:24 theJob wrote:
I find myself spending time on memrise instead of gaming, which is awsome.
Anyone know about how many new words is realistic to aim for per day?
I've been learning 30 a day for a while. I read users at memrise saying that learning 30 is about the highest sustainable amount you can get. Any more and you won't remember enough. 30 has been working well for me.
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Just started using memrise, but I can not click continue after the exercise when the scoreboard shows up, any idea's? I tried it with both Firefox and Internet Explorer.
Also add me to the TL list, TL-Neddal (Korean)
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On October 06 2012 22:24 theJob wrote:
I find myself spending time on memrise instead of gaming, which is awsome.
Anyone know about how many new words is realistic to aim for per day?
really depends on the language imo.
If you're doing something that's hard for you I'd go with something like 10 or 15 a day or do something else (like studying grammar for an hour) per day. I'm going with that right now for Japanese and it works pretty well. I started out doing a looot of words per day because of motivation and the thought of getting good as fast as possible but that's really troublesome later on. You'll still get back online seeing your garden telling you you've got 100 wilting plants after 24hours and that's just annoying :p
If you're doing something easier like trying to improve your english or learning something that is somewhat related to something you've already done I'd probably go with a bunch more. Maybe 20 or 25?
But that's just my take on that one. You'll figure out what fits your style yourself I guess, just try something you think might work for 1 or 2 weeks straight and afterwards you'll know whether or not it's really working :p
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