EPTAnti-Gay Slurs at BlizzCon concert? - Page 4
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konadora
Singapore66153 Posts
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Johnzee
United States216 Posts
The blogger specifically references Blizzard and links to the video in the first paragraph. | ||
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IMABUNNEH
United Kingdom1062 Posts
On October 28 2011 11:30 ChiffonAngel wrote: I see that asking for compassion is too much for some people. You've convinced me, I'll never insult anyone again in case people get the wrong idea! Like if I call someone a dickhead, and then a bunch of guys get mad at me because they have penises and dick is a rude way of saying penis. Sure it's not the CLOSEST comparison of what happened at Blizzcon, but it's not exactly that different. For someone who had a life as was linked about that gay dude, yes that's awful. It's horrible and the other people in that story should rightfully be condemned. But that doesn't mean every use of words like faggot are instantly homophobic and totally directed at all gay people in the world. People overreact and take things out of context. The reason people reply with "calm down, it's not supposed to be taken the way you're taking it" that so frustrates people is because there's no other rational reply. Do you want to be coddled from all offensive language used in any context ever? If he was specifically saying to someone who was gay "You're a faggot, you fucking queer faggot", then it would be bad and this kind of response would be appropriate. For what he said though? No the community response is entirely innapropriate. | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
But then again... they already censored him... so they only need to say that they're not affiliated with him and such. "cocksucker" does not mean that someone is a homosexual... it's just another funny word... | ||
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eohs
United States677 Posts
They are like I mean I dont even want to explain some of the lyrics. My point is this guy has NEVER acted like someone he isn't, he is very honest and doesn't cover up what he says in interviews or in real life. I am not justifying what he said at Blizzcon i am just saying Blizzard should know that he will not censor himself when he speaks. So I would blame blizzard more then him. Wouldnt expect much from him I have seen there band live lol was brutal. Just saying | ||
Akasha
United States261 Posts
I personally am not offended by his slurs however some people may be which is fine. They should privately tell Blizzard that they do not appreciate this type of videos at events they enjoy. | ||
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Aberu
United States968 Posts
On October 28 2011 11:37 Hyuzak wrote: I say it's just a joke, because it is. He's a dude from a metal band who is probably a little drunk talking about wow and obviously having fun, so stop being so anal in a non sexual situation. When someone hangs out with you, do these sensitive types just dodge the possibility of ever offending each other left and right? How boring. I would be so bored in a world where freedom of speech is bullied away by lawsuits and special interest groups. | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
 Anti-gay undeniably implies intent against gays, of which I see none. Insulting to gays, maybe? | ||
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VPCursed
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
I know a few gay people that use the gay references as an insult regardless... + Show Spoiler [Seriously] + On October 28 2011 11:29 Reyis wrote: i might get warned for a short post but 3 words for you.. get a life. Martyring :/ why do people do it... | ||
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
On October 28 2011 11:20 ChiffonAngel wrote: For all of you saying you don't get it. Take a moment to read the links in the first post. Specifically this one: http://vorpalbunnyranch.wordpress.com/2011/10/27/this-gaymers-story/ This is *one* person having the courage to once again try to explain why this isn't just "offensive" speech, but is hurtful. Try having some empathy for those who's lives have had to suffer from this kind of speech. I sympathize with him as his life seems extremely harsh (even that is an understatement), but it really seems as if he is too attached to this word. There are various over weight kids who were teased and called "fat" their entire lives, but does that mean that we should not use the word "fat" to describe things? I realize that being gay and being fat are a little different, but in both cases I would say that the people offended are letting a word have too much influence over them. I also understand that the word may just bring back horrible memories, and I am sorry about that but at the end of the day the majority of people would never interpret anything that man said as homophobic. Is it asking too much for people to approach language as context based, instead of strict definition? | ||
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P0ckets
United States430 Posts
Also he wasn't attacking gays or even gave his view on homosexuality. He probably for the most part was using the worse language he could think of to insult his mortal enemies. It's kind of like provoking a bull with red because it really pisses the bull off. Well WoW players really hate being called loser, pansy, gay, ect especially when fuck is thrown in there. Also there and thousands of WoW jokes out there that go a long with this type of stuff. I mean everyone has heard about the guys that play girls, the flack people get for playing girls and the thousands of jokes about it. | ||
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On October 28 2011 11:42 Johnzee wrote: The blogger specifically references Blizzard and links to the video in the first paragraph. Yes, he says he read a comment on a blog that was talking about a video that was played at Blizzcon. What's Blizzard supposed to apologize for, again? | ||
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Arkless
Canada1547 Posts
On that note, try not to be so fuckin sensitive k? And use it within it's context. | ||
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Zostix
16 Posts
On October 28 2011 10:58 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: Are some people so sheltered that this came across as being some overwhelming issue? Many comedy skits are terribly racist, including against peoples that are already demonized by political agendas and propaganda, and no one makes the biggest issue ever out of stuff like that. :S EDIT: And do WoW players still inherently hate people just for playing the opposite coalition? @_@ A woman was assaulted after the concert for wearing an alliance shirt So yes Sadly | ||
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Arush
Canada80 Posts
Stop overeacting everytime uses slurs its not like he was trying to prove a point against homosexual.. The main point is that he wanted to express his pride playing horde in a game.... | ||
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VPCursed
1044 Posts
On October 28 2011 11:50 Zostix wrote: A woman was assaulted after the concert for wearing an alliance shirt So yes Sadly she was over dramatizing im sure. | ||
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Johnzee
United States216 Posts
On October 28 2011 11:45 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: Not this again Anti-gay undeniably implies intent against gays, of which I see none. Insulting to gays, maybe? To the folks I work with in academia, it's a short step from "insulting" to "anti". Could be they just don't understand the gamer mentality. I mean, here's this guy being passionate about a game to the point of profanity and what they perceive as homophobia and death threats. As gamers, we live with this every day and don't have two thoughts about it. It's just the nature of anonymity. Still it doesn't mean shouldn't give a damn about what other people think. I don't agree with my fellows "thin skin" and hypersensitivity/political correctness, but if I just write this off as nothing (not see it from their perspective), I'm really no better than they are if they choose not to try and come at it from our perspective. Thus my language and manner about using these terms has changed. TL;DR - writing this off as nothing is VERY tempting and may be correct, but it's not always correct. Still worth examining. | ||
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ChiffonAngel
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EtohEtoh
Canada669 Posts
On October 28 2011 11:20 ChiffonAngel wrote: For all of you saying you don't get it. Take a moment to read the links in the first post. Specifically this one: http://vorpalbunnyranch.wordpress.com/2011/10/27/this-gaymers-story/ This is *one* person having the courage to once again try to explain why this isn't just "offensive" speech, but is hurtful. Try having some empathy for those who's lives have had to suffer from this kind of speech. I read through it, and I want to say that words will mean different things to everyone. we're a very metaphorical species and one word can conjure the harshest images to some, the same word will be absolutely meaningless to the other, because people live different lives and experience different stuff. If people and companies had to back off for every single one of Pavlov's dogs, then we wouldn't have much of a language to communicate with now would we? the gaymer in that story, is unfortunately one of the outliers on the societal bell curve. For him the slurs thrown by the Cannibal Corpse singer have a much harsher impact, but he is just one person, where there are hundreds and thousands who do not share the same experience. Blizzard, nor the singer should be put under the gun. They meant no harm, and no harm was done, with the exception of a few. he's right, that slurs do hurt, and that they should be used less. But you don't just strip somebodies vocabulary. it happens naturally, and generation-ally. You tell kids in school about the harm slurs can cause, and you tell them stories like the one told by the guy in the link. In time, I bet you'll see faggot take on the same kind of place as nigger. people will be shocked by it's use. but it doesn't happen by campaigning against everyone who's said the slur, especially if they're from a time when it was the norm, they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks... you're not going to get any support if you're going nuts about something so harmless. He's a fucking death metal vocalist, being offensive is like his bread and butter. On October 28 2011 11:50 Zostix wrote: A woman was assaulted after the concert for wearing an alliance shirt So yes Sadly probably was assaulted because she was a woman lol, the alliance thing was most likely an excuse, we are talking about blizzcon right | ||
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