EPTAnti-Gay Slurs at BlizzCon concert? - Page 3
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konadora
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Joobie
Canada5 Posts
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Geovu
Estonia1344 Posts
On October 28 2011 11:11 konadora wrote: they took down the uncensored :/ He's just raging a lot and its hilarious. If people can't understand that then I have lost faith in humanity. Calling someone a cocksucker or fag doesn't mean that that person is homophobic, lol. If you can't put that together by the number of times he says fuck AND the fact he's talking about WOW of all things... :| Also I swear that I've seen that video years ago it's def not something he made specifically for blizzcon 2011 i know that. edit: also i'm confused, in that blizzcon video he is just windmilling through the whole song, why no vocals lol. | ||
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Puph
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Glurkenspurk
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
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IMABUNNEH
United Kingdom1062 Posts
Sure it's offensive language, but people have to realise a few things. 1) Language evolves. Just as, for example, the word "gay" meant something different 50 years ago, it is being used in a different way half the time now. 2) It wasn't "hate speech" directed at gay people. He wasn't saying "All alliance are homosexual, and I despise you for that orientation!". He was saying "Alliance people suck!". 3) It was censored. If the specific language is something you find offensive, that is why it was censored. 4) I've seen language like that used on TV, in stage performances, in films, and it's not used as "I HATE GAYS" speech, but as a general insult. By the way, faggot is a type of food. Just saying. You have them at Christmas. Why are you offended by that? 5) Sometimes comedy can be "offensive" and not actually be offensive. Anyone from the UK watched Frankie Boyle? You'll know what I'm on about. | ||
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ChiffonAngel
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This is *one* person having the courage to once again try to explain why this isn't just "offensive" speech, but is hurtful. Try having some empathy for those who's lives have had to suffer from this kind of speech. | ||
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Arkless
Canada1547 Posts
On October 28 2011 11:18 IMABUNNEH wrote: Why is it my 2 gay mates who I watched it with laughed if it's SUPER OFFENSIVE? Sure it's offensive language, but people have to realise a few things. 1) Language evolves. Just as, for example, the word "gay" meant something different 50 years ago, it is being used in a different way half the time now. 2) It wasn't "hate speech" directed at gay people. He wasn't saying "All alliance are homosexual, and I despise you for that orientation!". He was saying "Alliance people suck!". 3) It was censored. If the specific language is something you find offensive, that is why it was censored. 4) I've seen language like that used on TV, in stage performances, in films, and it's not used as "I HATE GAYS" speech, but as a general insult. By the way, faggot is a type of food. Just saying. You have them at Christmas. Why are you offended by that? 5) Sometimes comedy can be "offensive" and not actually be offensive. Anyone from the UK watched Frankie Boyle? You'll know what I'm on about. ![[image loading]](http://british-pages-magazine.2342207.n2.nabble.com/file/n3358065/faggots.jpg) It is also a bundle of sticks/ slang for a ciggarette in the UK. | ||
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IMABUNNEH
United Kingdom1062 Posts
On October 28 2011 11:22 Arkless wrote: It is also a bundle of sticks/ slang for a ciggarette in the UK. Well "fag" is, not faggot though. That's just food  (and sticks!). | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
RL whining is worse than whining about a game. | ||
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Link_Drako
United States53 Posts
People need to stop playing the "Race", or "Gay" card. It's getting old and irritating. And getting uppity about this seems nothing more than someone looking for a reason to get mad at something. I say he is fine, and honestly, this video is hilarious. lol | ||
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
On October 28 2011 11:20 ChiffonAngel wrote: For all of you saying you don't get it. Take a moment to read the links in the first post. Specifically this one: http://vorpalbunnyranch.wordpress.com/2011/10/27/this-gaymers-story/ This is *one* person having the courage to once again try to explain why this isn't just "offensive" speech, but is hurtful. Try having some empathy for those who's lives have had to suffer from this kind of speech. If you don't like it, cover your ears and don't listen to it. You cannot censor comedy in the off chance that someone watching it gets offended. This was a joke interview with a death metal vocalist. | ||
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ZessiM
United Kingdom232 Posts
It would be a lot easier if people had some consideration and just didn't use certain words in public. | ||
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Reyis
Pitcairn287 Posts
On October 28 2011 10:29 Johnzee wrote: I went to BlizzCon last weekend and was in the crowd for the closing ceremony, featuring the now-named Level 90 Elite Tauren Chieftain opening up the show. Anyone who was there or who was watching it on the livestream probably saw this segment from George 'Corpsegrinder' Fisher, from the death-metal band Cannibal Corpse, just before he made an appearance on stage as a guest performer: *having trouble embedding video in the post, so links will have to do* + Show Spoiler + And here is the uncensored version, which has apparently been floating around the interwebs since 2008 (it even made an appearance on TL: (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=64926) + Show Spoiler + So when I saw it, what he was saying really went one ear and out the other. They censored the crap out of him, I don't play WoW anymore, was never big on faction pride anyway, and furthermore I don't listen to metal so I didn't know who this guy was. All I know is that he showed up during L90ETC's concert to make a cameo performance. That was last Saturday. Fast forward to today, when I found multiple posts on Facebook concerning Fisher's anti-Alliance rant. Some of my super-academic friends (two university professors concerned with history and gender studies, respectively) took some huge offense to this and were blaming Blizzard for basically promoting and condoning this guy (by letting him perform) who was using anti-gay slurs in this video they featured. Apparently they weren't alone: http://vorpalbunnyranch.wordpress.com/2011/10/27/this-gaymers-story/ http://gaygamer.net/2011/10/antigay_speech_at_blizzcon_201.html And it's made a big splash on the WoW Battle.net forums: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3424466243 Interesting that I can't find anything on TL about it, maybe everyone's real chill or just didn't notice the situation. I'm unsure where I stand on this, and I'm wondering what everyone else thinks about this too, particularly our gay community (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147829) Are my friends right, and Blizzard should be ashamed/apologize for allowing this guy to "represent" them during the concert at Blizzcon? Or was Blizzard without blame here, censoring his "speech" and using it only to incite some WoW faction passion for their concert? i might get warned for a short post but 3 words for you.. get a life. | ||
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ChiffonAngel
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On October 28 2011 11:25 Odal wrote: If you don't like it, cover your ears and don't listen to it. You cannot censor comedy in the off chance that someone watching it gets offended. This was a joke interview with a death metal vocalist. I see that asking for compassion is too much for some people. | ||
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On October 28 2011 11:20 ChiffonAngel wrote: For all of you saying you don't get it. Take a moment to read the links in the first post. Specifically this one: http://vorpalbunnyranch.wordpress.com/2011/10/27/this-gaymers-story/ This is *one* person having the courage to once again try to explain why this isn't just "offensive" speech, but is hurtful. Try having some empathy for those who's lives have had to suffer from this kind of speech. This link has zero relevance to Blizzcon. | ||
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Aberu
United States968 Posts
I really think that you could listen to any rant from Destiny on this subject, or his amateur debates about it, and you can understand that it's more important to take context into consideration when in a conversation. Honestly, why are they taking what the lead singer of cannibal corpse says as some official offensive decree from blizzard. Did a blizzard employee say it? No, the lead singer of a very offensive radical band that's washed up and has a bro front-lining it said that. On October 28 2011 11:30 ChiffonAngel wrote: I see that asking for compassion is too much for some people. If someone says something offensive to you, as an adult (which only adults should be watching blizzcon, and participating in it anyways, or kids with a supervising adult with them), if you go and kill yourself over it, then you have much bigger problems than the person saying things to you. If you really need the rest of the world to change just for you, then you ARE asking for too much. This is not what the LBGT community needs, a bunch of people complaining about a comedic-themed interview by a washed up death metal singer. It definitely doesn't need to bring counter-hatred to Blizzard (the best video game company in the world). | ||
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Hyuzak
United States33 Posts
On October 28 2011 10:50 chaoser wrote: The easiest way people excuse hateful language seeped in vitriol is by saying it's "just a joke". That not only tries to sidestep the issues being raised but also is an indirect way of saying "you're making a big deal out of nothing", effectively shutting down discussion. I say it's just a joke, because it is. He's a dude from a metal band who is probably a little drunk talking about wow and obviously having fun, so stop being so anal in a non sexual situation. | ||
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