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BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1168 Posts
October 28 2011 11:19 GMT
#561
Every beating "accident" can be a hate crime. So atm I hate you for being you and being arrogant and I'd beat you. So that's a hate crime.
You are insulting the undeveloped monkeys around me so u are hating them => u got to be punished the right way. I think prison about 5 years would be enough for you the be glad and pleased with yourself.

Ye it would be nice.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1168 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-28 11:26:48
October 28 2011 11:25 GMT
#562
On October 28 2011 20:17 Holgerius wrote:
Sherlock and BlueStar, you two are not exactly giving me a good image of what life in Bulgaria is like here.

I have no understanding for the whole ''This ain't so bad, people get beat up all the time''-mentality whatsoever. Hearing such nonsense drops my faith in humanity quite a bit. It is never ok in any way to straight up assault someone like this, and just because it has happened plenty of times before, and will happen plenty of times in the future as well, doesn't make it any more acceptable.


You don't need to have hope for the humanity. Just read history. They have always been wars and fights and beating. It's just the way the world it is. When there is not enough aggression the tension is getting an edge and something big is happening. Like 9/11 and other kind of modern terrorism.
For god sake look what happened in Norway in one of the most peaceful country in the world...

Just think what are the preconditions for these happenings. The world haven't seen such things I believe.

And I'm not just talking - read books, history and etc think in your own mind and you will figure out one not so pleasant picture about the present and future day.

P.S. Stupid are people who doesn't teach the history and forgive the mistakes of the others before them. Look forward but have in mind what happened before.

So beating in school is one completely normal thing which many of the kids have faced one time or another.
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
Sherlock.
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria35 Posts
October 28 2011 11:27 GMT
#563
On October 28 2011 20:17 Holgerius wrote:
Sherlock and BlueStar, you two are not exactly giving me a good image of what life in Bulgaria is like here.

I have no understanding for the whole ''This ain't so bad, people get beat up all the time''-mentality whatsoever. Hearing such nonsense drops my faith in humanity quite a bit. It is never ok in any way to straight up assault someone like this, and just because it has happened plenty of times before, and will happen plenty of times in the future as well, doesn't make it any more acceptable.


I am not saying it is a good thing, it is just that all of you are overreacting.As some people said, its a normal bully going into violence. We don't know exactly what happened.The official opinion is that The bully was waiting for him in the classroom and then beat the crap out of him. Well, in that case the bully is fucking retarded. If he was at least a bit clever he would have waited for him outside, where less people can interfere. But that's only if that's the case. But there is another option (although it isn't so plausible) that the gay kid MAYBE provoked him in some way.Plus, getting beat is just another hard lesson in life. Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger, remember?
Stork,Bisu, Nal_ra,Flash / oGsMC, MaNa, Mvp
Scrimpton
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom465 Posts
October 28 2011 11:30 GMT
#564
If the kid wasn't gay this wouldnt have a thread.

People get beaten all the time for no reason, they are less important because they aren't in some minority?
Protoss is the only race with "pro" in it
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1168 Posts
October 28 2011 11:36 GMT
#565
On October 28 2011 20:30 Scrimpton wrote:
If the kid wasn't gay this wouldnt have a thread.

People get beaten all the time for no reason, they are less important because they aren't in some minority?

exactly mi thought...
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
Sideburn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
October 28 2011 11:37 GMT
#566
Gay student gets beaten up in classroom?

As tragic as this is... all i read is "Another pointless sensationalistic story gets posted to TL.net!"
Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
October 28 2011 11:40 GMT
#567
On October 28 2011 20:37 Sideburn wrote:
Gay student gets beaten up in classroom?

As tragic as this is... all i read is "Another pointless sensationalistic story gets posted to TL.net!"

What's sensationalistic about it? Do you even know what that word means?
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Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-28 11:48:46
October 28 2011 11:47 GMT
#568
Its funny to me how people are so misinformed about what a hate crime is. They take the words literally when it is a term with a very specific meaning. Its a lot like people who think theories in science are just wild guesses at what could be true. Just because your common speech use of a word means one thing doesnt mean that definition automatically applies to the term 'hate crime' (ie. not all crimes are hate crimes because they are hateful lol).
Sideburn
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
October 28 2011 11:51 GMT
#569
On October 28 2011 20:40 LurkersGonnaLurk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 20:37 Sideburn wrote:
Gay student gets beaten up in classroom?

As tragic as this is... all i read is "Another pointless sensationalistic story gets posted to TL.net!"

What's sensationalistic about it? Do you even know what that word means?


It's sensational because it's a total non-issue that is, in reality, a VERY tiny deal... shit like this and worse happens constantly. Yet it's framed in a sensational manner to garner more views and seem like a much bigger deal than it is.

Do you even know what this word means?
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
October 28 2011 11:55 GMT
#570
On October 28 2011 20:51 Sideburn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 20:40 LurkersGonnaLurk wrote:
On October 28 2011 20:37 Sideburn wrote:
Gay student gets beaten up in classroom?

As tragic as this is... all i read is "Another pointless sensationalistic story gets posted to TL.net!"

What's sensationalistic about it? Do you even know what that word means?


It's sensational because it's a total non-issue that is, in reality, a VERY tiny deal... shit like this and worse happens constantly. Yet it's framed in a sensational manner to garner more views and seem like a much bigger deal than it is.

Do you even know what this word means?

A mutual fight or some kid getting made fun of is a non-issue. A kid getting the shit beat out of him, and the 'meh' attitude that surrounds it is a very big issue. There is no reason it should be acceptable to beat the shit out of someone at any age.
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Maitolasi
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland441 Posts
October 28 2011 11:56 GMT
#571
Doesn't matter if he was gay or whatever the attackers motivation was. There's a clear video of him beating the guy. That's assault and it should be punished as such.
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
October 28 2011 12:03 GMT
#572
Charge him for committing an assault, and whatever punishment he gets from that. They have the video recording it won't be too hard to prove the bully's guilt.
norsK
Profile Joined April 2009
United States131 Posts
October 28 2011 12:08 GMT
#573
Holy Heartless Posters Batman...

Why would you defend something as horrific as a planned attack against any human being in a school.

Debate teams of the 2011's, please STFU on this issue.

NO TOLERANCE.
The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination - einstein
sorrowptoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1431 Posts
October 28 2011 12:15 GMT
#574
This is pretty silly to get kicked out for 3 days. Sounds pretty injust to me...
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
October 28 2011 12:19 GMT
#575
On October 28 2011 07:42 Millitron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 07:37 Whitewing wrote:
Hate crime, throw the kid in prison.

I don't like the term "Hate crime". Aren't all crimes hate crimes?



Of course not.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1921 Posts
October 28 2011 12:24 GMT
#576
...living in america... (I DO know that those "hate" crimes are committed all over the world, but in the US you actually have a term for everything). But instead of trying to raise people's social awareness the media and even governments keep partying in the public about the deaths of Bin Laden and Gaddafi (even showing pictures of the corpses in the news paper, times have changed)...

I think, psychologists call this "emotional blunting" and I think, we are all affected by this (hey, we're playing StarCraft and cheer about death animations of units, e.g.).
Of course it's in our own responsibilities to act accordingly (actually being able to distinguish between game and reality), but imo it's a very long term process that is very difficult to recognize, because the media (TV, newspapers, internet) are trying to catch one's eye with even more stunning news, showing even more intense violence (and news are accessible easily for children as well).
Due to this, I think, people passively tolerate much more violence and antisocial behaviour which leads to incidents like mentioned in the OP. It may be a bit far fetched, but just some of my thoughts...
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1921 Posts
October 28 2011 12:33 GMT
#577
wow I sure think a lot... ;>
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
October 28 2011 12:37 GMT
#578
The reason for the attack shouldn't figure into the punishment, nor should the status of either the attacker or victim. I think this should be treated as a pre-meditated assault, and should be met by the school with expulsion for each attacker involved, and police involvement.

A school can't be left to deal with assault in the same way a church shouldn't be the ones doling out punishment for child rape.
couches
Profile Joined November 2010
618 Posts
October 28 2011 12:44 GMT
#579
Police getting involved in a school fight? What a waste of resources.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 28 2011 12:45 GMT
#580
On October 28 2011 20:30 Scrimpton wrote:
If the kid wasn't gay this wouldnt have a thread.

People get beaten all the time for no reason, they are less important because they aren't in some minority?


But he was gay.

And you're greatly deluding yourself if you think gay kids getting creamed at school like this doesn't happen regularly. It does, and it's a serious issue.

Basically, two things:

1) A physical assault like this is fucking horrible, no matter what kid it was done to
2) Gay kids at school are the victims of far more bullying in school than straight kids, so yes, it does matter that he's gay
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