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Sgonzo
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada202 Posts
November 02 2011 18:26 GMT
#1041
anytime ive gotten into a fight with anybody of any race that wasnt my own i ahve used racial terms, not because i am a racist but because its the ehat of the moment you do in fact hate the person you are fighting you hate everything about them at that moment, but does that mean all my fights classify as hate crimes? because the reason the fight started has never ever been on the basis of race creed sexuality alone.

and the only reason why i wouldnt use racial terms against my own race is because you look kind of stupid calling another white boy a slack jawed red neck when you fighting him lol
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Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
November 02 2011 18:28 GMT
#1042
On November 03 2011 03:26 Sgonzo wrote:
anytime ive gotten into a fight with anybody of any race that wasnt my own i ahve used racial terms, not because i am a racist but because its the ehat of the moment you do in fact hate the person you are fighting you hate everything about them at that moment, but does that mean all my fights classify as hate crimes? because the reason the fight started has never ever been on the basis of race creed sexuality alone.

and the only reason why i wouldnt use racial terms against my own race is because you look kind of stupid calling another white boy a slack jawed red neck when you fighting him lol


So, you regularly get into fights with other races, you use racially charged language, and you hate everything about them...but you're not racist.

Well, my brief time in this thread has been a mind fuck. I think I'll be leaving now.
#2throwed
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
November 02 2011 18:29 GMT
#1043
my 2c (didnt watch vid/read 50 pages):

yes police involvement and 12-24 hours jail time is a great punishment

why? because it scares the living SHIT out of the bully and shows that individual that the laws of our world DO apply to him personally and that he better shape up or there will be more of that coming his way

i know this works because ive been thru it myself. believe me, a day in a tiny locked room ,without knowing WTF is gonna happen to you or how long you're gonna be there, is enough to put a big Reality Stamp over that bully part of your brain

well idk that for sure coz ive never been a bully but its pretty damn effective wake-up call in general
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0ceangam3r
Profile Joined November 2010
United States203 Posts
November 02 2011 18:34 GMT
#1044
wait... what year is it? seriously, that bully needs to go to juve or better yet adult prison where HE can get the same treatment and then some...
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Sgonzo
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada202 Posts
November 02 2011 19:24 GMT
#1045
On November 03 2011 03:28 Klondikebar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 03:26 Sgonzo wrote:
anytime ive gotten into a fight with anybody of any race that wasnt my own i ahve used racial terms, not because i am a racist but because its the ehat of the moment you do in fact hate the person you are fighting you hate everything about them at that moment, but does that mean all my fights classify as hate crimes? because the reason the fight started has never ever been on the basis of race creed sexuality alone.

and the only reason why i wouldnt use racial terms against my own race is because you look kind of stupid calling another white boy a slack jawed red neck when you fighting him lol


So, you regularly get into fights with other races, you use racially charged language, and you hate everything about them...but you're not racist.

Well, my brief time in this thread has been a mind fuck. I think I'll be leaving now.


trolling much? or just misunderstood me, i have fought more white people then any other race you fucking idiot i live in canada........ so you ignorantly paraphrasing me is fucking ridiculous, heres is clarification for those with single digit IQs i will fight anybody and use any insult trick mind game in the book to get an edge on them in the fight if that means i throw racial terms out when fighting thats the case..... when in every other aspect of my life i am so far from racist its ridiculous and im not the reverse racist where i treat people of other races with reverance or anything i treat them like what they are human beings who are just as flawed or perfect as anybody else and i let their actions dictate how i interact with them.
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Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
November 02 2011 19:30 GMT
#1046
3 days suspension means he got 3 days off the school or what?
Sgonzo
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada202 Posts
November 02 2011 19:31 GMT
#1047
On November 03 2011 03:34 0ceangam3r wrote:
wait... what year is it? seriously, that bully needs to go to juve or better yet adult prison where HE can get the same treatment and then some...


dude prison system is broken and you want him to have a felony charge which makes you essentially unemployable in the states from the age of 15 for some stupid kid shit? seriously if the kid wasnt gay nobody would give a flying fuck.
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 20:08:28
November 02 2011 20:07 GMT
#1048
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sotmh
Profile Joined May 2010
United States41 Posts
November 02 2011 21:18 GMT
#1049
On November 03 2011 04:31 Sgonzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 03:34 0ceangam3r wrote:
wait... what year is it? seriously, that bully needs to go to juve or better yet adult prison where HE can get the same treatment and then some...


dude prison system is broken and you want him to have a felony charge which makes you essentially unemployable in the states from the age of 15 for some stupid kid shit? seriously if the kid wasnt gay nobody would give a flying fuck.


Assault starts as a 1st degree misdemeanor in OH. Plus if he's charged as a juvenile his life won't be ruined and if it's a first offense he's likely to get probation. If he's old enough to be charged as an adult, well, don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
AlmightyJoker
Profile Joined August 2011
United States48 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 21:43:34
November 02 2011 21:36 GMT
#1050
doesn't matter if you ruin his life from age 15, a kid who would do that to a person just because he is gay isn't going to go very far in life anyway. i see plenty of guys like him on the side of the road holding "slow down" signs.
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
November 02 2011 21:41 GMT
#1051
The student should have fought back, seems so dumb to just stand there and piss your pants while someone is hammering away at you dozens of times. I just don't understand...
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Golbat
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States499 Posts
November 02 2011 21:54 GMT
#1052
I'm no tough guy, but if if that shit happened in a class I was in, I would have straight attacked that fucking big kid with whatever I could get my hands on. That piece of shit deserved jail time for what he did. Is there a phone number where we can call the school and tell them a three-day suspension is unacceptable?
Like why do u use an oven instead of a fire? Coz its fucking better at cooking, that doesnt mean you want the shit to burn.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 02 2011 22:02 GMT
#1053
On November 03 2011 06:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
The student should have fought back, seems so dumb to just stand there and piss your pants while someone is hammering away at you dozens of times. I just don't understand...


Are you kidding? Please watch the video again.

Anyways, if you're weaker, you usually can't fight back. As soon as you stop trying to protect yourself with your hands to hit back, you're hit harder. Have you even been in a fight before?
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 01:10:50
November 03 2011 01:05 GMT
#1054
On November 03 2011 07:02 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 06:41 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
The student should have fought back, seems so dumb to just stand there and piss your pants while someone is hammering away at you dozens of times. I just don't understand...


Are you kidding? Please watch the video again.

Anyways, if you're weaker, you usually can't fight back. As soon as you stop trying to protect yourself with your hands to hit back, you're hit harder. Have you even been in a fight before?
You think I'm dumb enough to comment without watching!?

It's not like the kid just entered the room and immediately got surprised jumped, it was pretty obvious the fellar was going to start attacking so he could have thrown the first punch. Or he could just fight back, even if he loses the fight the bully will think twice before repeating it in the future.

I've never been in a street fight but I have done boxing and wrestling. I know someone though who's been a streetfighter for a long time and destroyed people double his size let alone a small difference like that, it's not unheard of.
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
November 03 2011 11:12 GMT
#1055
On November 03 2011 06:54 Golbat wrote:
I'm no tough guy, but if if that shit happened in a class I was in, I would have straight attacked that fucking big kid with whatever I could get my hands on. That piece of shit deserved jail time for what he did. Is there a phone number where we can call the school and tell them a three-day suspension is unacceptable?


wow i suddenly got a vision of the whole of the internet/4chan picking up the phone whenever they find some news they disgaree with and making hundreds of individual calls to complain and sway the result...dishing out justice... eventually people will be afraid to commit crimes incase they get spotlighted on the internet.......THE NEW KIRA.......!!
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meatbox
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia349 Posts
November 06 2011 03:42 GMT
#1056
On November 02 2011 18:51 FireEagle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 18:44 meatbox wrote:
On October 31 2011 02:17 KlaCkoN wrote:
On October 30 2011 08:21 meatbox wrote:
On October 30 2011 07:43 iamahydralisk wrote:
On October 30 2011 07:35 meatbox wrote:
On October 30 2011 07:19 iamahydralisk wrote:
On October 30 2011 07:14 meatbox wrote:
On October 29 2011 15:14 Dfgj wrote:
On October 29 2011 14:45 meatbox wrote:
Look at this terrible American attitude towards punishment for crime, quite disappointing to see the majority wanting to see a teenager placed in prison, you're all worse than him...

The child's sense of morals were instilled by his parents, you can't blame a 15 year old, someone who can be so easily manipulated, for such a crime. He was obviously influenced by someone, be it his parents or bad company.

The right punishment would be a suspension, during that period a psychological correction facility should accommodate for his misplaced sense of morality.

At 15 I was quite capable of thinking for myself, thanks. It's his own fault for not only harboring such prejudices, but acting aggressively on them.

Is it HIS fault for harbouring such prejudices? Really? He was obviously influenced by someone, a jail sentence would ruin any hope of future that he had... Bullies need the most help, not their victims.

Yes, it IS his fault because 15 is plenty old enough to know that beating the shit out of someone just because they are harmlessly and insignificantly different from you is a bad thing to do. You should really quit barking up this tree cause it's gonna get you absolutely no where.

Didn't expect to get through to anyone, had no expectations to begin with, sending a 15 year old to jail is cruel, unfair on the child, he'll spend a majority of his life there when there are clearly better and cheaper alternatives, anyway more government expenditure per capita is given to prisoners than public school students, what a fucked up world.

He's going to "spend a majority of his life there?" What? lol. Stop acting like he killed someone or something. He deserves to be removed from society for a while so he can learn what he did wrong. If he doesn't get a sizable punishment for this, he'll probably just keep doing it until he does.

The child will learn nothing from going to prison, prison is for adults not children, to think 70% believe a charge should be laid...

The mother of the victim said it wasn't a hate crime and wanted the administration to be fired for not dealing with the issue earlier, there were warning signs.

Counselling would be the best outcome for both parties, any criminal sentence would limit career choices, all Government jobs require no criminal records, and a future of petty crimes, being in and out of prison is the most likely future if the forumites of TL have their way...

If a random person went up to you on the street and hit you in the head until you passed out would "counseling" be an appropriate punishment?
Then why does a 15 year old child deserve less protection from violence under the law than an adult man? Beating a child is a _worse_ crime than beating an adult not the other way around, the perpetrator should definitely face criminal charges and be punished to whatever extent american law usually punishes cretins who beats innocent people senseless for the fun of it.

You've missed the point here, the bully is a minor, end of, your argument fails, and I'm quite surprised that a fellow forumite who hails from Sweden is supportive of a minor doing time.

I recall a case from Sweden where two young boys killed another boy, they were under the age of 10. As a result, both boys were given free counselling, one of them turned out fine, like any other sane member of society, the other was deemed dangerous. Fancy turning a child who killed another child into a model citizen from counselling, if the same was done for less severe cases, the world would be a much better place...


As far as I know the justice system in America, this can be charged as a hate crime and go to federal court. And I think that is what should happen, because an example should be given. Only with strong measures prejudices can be changed. And it's fine to put a bully to rot in jail just for a dozen of years if it will be for the greater good.

The justice system in America is unjust, about time Americans admitted this fact. Prisoners cost the state more than school students, sucks to be an American I tells you!

My advice, move to Australia where the lifestyle is relaxed and the opportunities are better. Seriously anyone can make money here, drop out in Grade 10, pick up a trade from TAFE and you'll be earning millions in 10 years time, not bad , and there are relatively no bullying cases from down under like there is in the states...
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