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United States5162 Posts
On October 28 2011 21:44 couches wrote:
Police getting involved in a school fight? What a waste of resources.
So if the kid got the shit beat out of him at the store it's different then getting the shit beat out of you in a classroom? And it wasn't even a fight, the guy who got beat up did everything he could to avoid it. It's textbook assault.
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Throw the kid in prison and let some big mofucker take care of him... and his angus.
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To all those saying 'if he wasn't gay, not threadworthy' ...
It would be threadworthy if the only reason a kid was beaten up was because the kid was black, hispanic, white, gay, handicapped and the person doing it just hated said group. Hell, if it was a she and she got beaten up just because she was female, it would be threadworthy.
So to me ... you are ignorant jackasses just wanting to feel okay with beating up gay people - which, well - isn't okay.
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On October 28 2011 21:45 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 20:30 Scrimpton wrote:
If the kid wasn't gay this wouldnt have a thread.
People get beaten all the time for no reason, they are less important because they aren't in some minority? But he was gay. And you're greatly deluding yourself if you think gay kids getting creamed at school like this doesn't happen regularly. It does, and it's a serious issue. Basically, two things: 1) A physical assault like this is fucking horrible, no matter what kid it was done to 2) Gay kids at school are the victims of far more bullying in school than straight kids, so yes, it does matter that he's gay
But it doesn't matter
And you're greatly deluding yourself if straight kids getting creamed at school doesn't happen regularly, and like wise it's a serious issue
1)Yes getting attacked is pretty horrible
2)Fat kids, Kids of different race, nerds, geeks, are victims to similar bullying school compared gay kids, so no, don't consider gay on a special tier, they're not that special.
What I don't understand, gays want equality with us straights, and we don't mind that, so don't make each case into a special case because the victim is gay, being gay doesn't make them more special than the rest of us
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Why would you want to throw him in prison? He will come out even worse then he was, and he could have problems getting job > escalation of his bad behaviour. Throw him out of school, and give him some community work, and therapy.
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63 people: no punishment.
I bet they are the same people who yell of joy when homeless are sent 15 years in jail for stealing 100$.
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
On October 28 2011 21:55 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 21:45 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 20:30 Scrimpton wrote:
If the kid wasn't gay this wouldnt have a thread.
People get beaten all the time for no reason, they are less important because they aren't in some minority? But he was gay. And you're greatly deluding yourself if you think gay kids getting creamed at school like this doesn't happen regularly. It does, and it's a serious issue. Basically, two things: 1) A physical assault like this is fucking horrible, no matter what kid it was done to 2) Gay kids at school are the victims of far more bullying in school than straight kids, so yes, it does matter that he's gay But it doesn't matter And you're greatly deluding yourself if straight kids getting creamed at school doesn't happen regularly, and like wise it's a serious issue 1)Yes getting attacked is pretty horrible 2)Fat kids, Kids of different race, nerds, geeks, are victims to similar bullying school compared gay kids, so no, don't consider gay on a special tier, they're not that special. What I don't understand, gays want equality with us straights, and we don't mind that, so don't make each case into a special case because the victim is gay, being gay doesn't make them more special than the rest of us
Don't be dumb. My point 1 directly addressed that anyone getting creamed at school is a bad thing and serious. The point is gays get proportionately massively more bullying than straight kids.
Is the same true of black kids or whatever? Yes, also awful. But the point in hand is that the kid is gay and gays get an extremely tough time of it in schools.
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Just straight-up execute this guy. Nobody ever deserves an unprovoked beating like that. Ever. It doesn't matter if they're black, white, gay, straight, man, woman, religious or not. Nobody ever deserves a premeditated, unprovoked beating like that.
I sure hope anonymous finds out his name and address so they can ruin his life.
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On October 28 2011 21:59 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 21:55 Blasterion wrote:On October 28 2011 21:45 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 20:30 Scrimpton wrote:
If the kid wasn't gay this wouldnt have a thread.
People get beaten all the time for no reason, they are less important because they aren't in some minority? But he was gay. And you're greatly deluding yourself if you think gay kids getting creamed at school like this doesn't happen regularly. It does, and it's a serious issue. Basically, two things: 1) A physical assault like this is fucking horrible, no matter what kid it was done to 2) Gay kids at school are the victims of far more bullying in school than straight kids, so yes, it does matter that he's gay But it doesn't matter And you're greatly deluding yourself if straight kids getting creamed at school doesn't happen regularly, and like wise it's a serious issue 1)Yes getting attacked is pretty horrible 2)Fat kids, Kids of different race, nerds, geeks, are victims to similar bullying school compared gay kids, so no, don't consider gay on a special tier, they're not that special. What I don't understand, gays want equality with us straights, and we don't mind that, so don't make each case into a special case because the victim is gay, being gay doesn't make them more special than the rest of us Don't be dumb. My point 1 directly addressed that anyone getting creamed at school is a bad thing and serious. The point is gays get proportionately massively more bullying than straight kids. Is the same true of black kids or whatever? Yes, also awful. But the point in hand is that the kid is gay and gays get an extremely tough time of it in schools.
lol don't raise the gays on a silver platter, kids get bullied it sucks, terrible, horrific things happen. But think to yourself, would it be newsworthy if the victim wasn't gay? School bullying, must be solved, but if the gays want equality they shouldn't always make themselves "special cases"
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On October 28 2011 21:59 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 21:55 Blasterion wrote:On October 28 2011 21:45 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 20:30 Scrimpton wrote:
If the kid wasn't gay this wouldnt have a thread.
People get beaten all the time for no reason, they are less important because they aren't in some minority? But he was gay. And you're greatly deluding yourself if you think gay kids getting creamed at school like this doesn't happen regularly. It does, and it's a serious issue. Basically, two things: 1) A physical assault like this is fucking horrible, no matter what kid it was done to 2) Gay kids at school are the victims of far more bullying in school than straight kids, so yes, it does matter that he's gay But it doesn't matter And you're greatly deluding yourself if straight kids getting creamed at school doesn't happen regularly, and like wise it's a serious issue 1)Yes getting attacked is pretty horrible 2)Fat kids, Kids of different race, nerds, geeks, are victims to similar bullying school compared gay kids, so no, don't consider gay on a special tier, they're not that special. What I don't understand, gays want equality with us straights, and we don't mind that, so don't make each case into a special case because the victim is gay, being gay doesn't make them more special than the rest of us Don't be dumb. My point 1 directly addressed that anyone getting creamed at school is a bad thing and serious. The point is gays get proportionately massively more bullying than straight kids. Is the same true of black kids or whatever? Yes, also awful. But the point in hand is that the kid is gay and gays get an extremely tough time of it in schools.
you are saying more gay kids get beaten up like its even relevent, its not. more women get raped than men, but is raping a guy any better or worse? no its just rape, its all bad.
by singling out the bully by saying "what you did was more bad because the victim was gay" we are supporting the notion that gay people are different to straight people, and that they need to be treated differently. we are agreeing with the bullys madness if not his method.
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The worst part of it, even more than the homophobic bullshit, is the people who just stood around and did nothing. Its not that they should be punished, but its still such a sad testimony on the apathy of people.
In so many ways this reminds me of the publicly spectated gang rape in california.
Also, I hope someone forces the school to take more concrete action. I can't imagine why anyone would question that this is assault and deserves a full prosecution. Bad things happen all over the world, to all sorts of people. Doesn't mean that we should ignore it and not punish it.
OMG where is the world going?
The kids are beating each other since the world is populated with humans. What so wrong?
Kids stuff beating and etc is absolutely normal imo.
The gay thing is a lot exaggerated.
In subsharan africa, in every warzone you can think of, children are often brutally raped and then killed. This has been going on since the world is populated with humans. Does that mean that if a little girl was brutally raped and killed in your school, its not a big deal and the perpetrator should get a 3 days suspension?
In Congo and in Liberia (two examples I have worked with) teenagers are forced to become child soldiers. This has been going for ages, since the world is populated with humans. So if we take you and force you to serve in a military its not a problem?
You can try to hide your particular brand of homophobia under this veneer of "oh but it happens to everyone", but your bigotry is quite evident.
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On October 28 2011 22:04 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 21:59 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 21:55 Blasterion wrote:On October 28 2011 21:45 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 20:30 Scrimpton wrote:
If the kid wasn't gay this wouldnt have a thread.
People get beaten all the time for no reason, they are less important because they aren't in some minority? But he was gay. And you're greatly deluding yourself if you think gay kids getting creamed at school like this doesn't happen regularly. It does, and it's a serious issue. Basically, two things: 1) A physical assault like this is fucking horrible, no matter what kid it was done to 2) Gay kids at school are the victims of far more bullying in school than straight kids, so yes, it does matter that he's gay But it doesn't matter And you're greatly deluding yourself if straight kids getting creamed at school doesn't happen regularly, and like wise it's a serious issue 1)Yes getting attacked is pretty horrible 2)Fat kids, Kids of different race, nerds, geeks, are victims to similar bullying school compared gay kids, so no, don't consider gay on a special tier, they're not that special. What I don't understand, gays want equality with us straights, and we don't mind that, so don't make each case into a special case because the victim is gay, being gay doesn't make them more special than the rest of us Don't be dumb. My point 1 directly addressed that anyone getting creamed at school is a bad thing and serious. The point is gays get proportionately massively more bullying than straight kids. Is the same true of black kids or whatever? Yes, also awful. But the point in hand is that the kid is gay and gays get an extremely tough time of it in schools. you are saying more gay kids get beaten up like its even relevent, its not. more women get raped than men, but is raping a guy any better or worse? no its just rape, its all bad. by singling out the bully by saying "what you did was more bad because the victim was gay" we are supporting the notion that gay people are different to straight people, and that they need to be treated differently. we are agreeing with the bullys madness if not his method.
Exactly, If the gays really wanted equality they shouldn't expect special treatments, with that said, yeah assault is bad, sucks, horrible, and should be punished, and properly re-educated
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On October 28 2011 22:03 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 21:59 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 21:55 Blasterion wrote:On October 28 2011 21:45 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 20:30 Scrimpton wrote:
If the kid wasn't gay this wouldnt have a thread.
People get beaten all the time for no reason, they are less important because they aren't in some minority? But he was gay. And you're greatly deluding yourself if you think gay kids getting creamed at school like this doesn't happen regularly. It does, and it's a serious issue. Basically, two things: 1) A physical assault like this is fucking horrible, no matter what kid it was done to 2) Gay kids at school are the victims of far more bullying in school than straight kids, so yes, it does matter that he's gay But it doesn't matter And you're greatly deluding yourself if straight kids getting creamed at school doesn't happen regularly, and like wise it's a serious issue 1)Yes getting attacked is pretty horrible 2)Fat kids, Kids of different race, nerds, geeks, are victims to similar bullying school compared gay kids, so no, don't consider gay on a special tier, they're not that special. What I don't understand, gays want equality with us straights, and we don't mind that, so don't make each case into a special case because the victim is gay, being gay doesn't make them more special than the rest of us Don't be dumb. My point 1 directly addressed that anyone getting creamed at school is a bad thing and serious. The point is gays get proportionately massively more bullying than straight kids. Is the same true of black kids or whatever? Yes, also awful. But the point in hand is that the kid is gay and gays get an extremely tough time of it in schools. lol don't raise the gays on a silver platter, kids get bullied it sucks, terrible, horrific things happen. But think to yourself, would it be newsworthy if the victim wasn't gay? School bullying, must be solved, but if the gays want equality they shouldn't always make themselves "special cases"
What bullshit is this? Its assault because of the actions and its a hate crime because of the motivation. So you think racial equality means that if a race based hate crime happens we should ignore it because black people (or chinese people since you are from china) want equality so they shouldn't always make themselves special cases?
Seriously what the heck is wrong with people like you. Try to put yourself in the victims shoes for a few minutes.
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On October 28 2011 22:04 redviper wrote:The worst part of it, even more than the homophobic bullshit, is the people who just stood around and did nothing. Its not that they should be punished, but its still such a sad testimony on the apathy of people. In so many ways this reminds me of the publicly spectated gang rape in california. Also, I hope someone forces the school to take more concrete action. I can't imagine why anyone would question that this is assault and deserves a full prosecution. Bad things happen all over the world, to all sorts of people. Doesn't mean that we should ignore it and not punish it. Show nested quote +OMG where is the world going?
The kids are beating each other since the world is populated with humans. What so wrong?
Kids stuff beating and etc is absolutely normal imo.
The gay thing is a lot exaggerated. In subsharan africa, in every warzone you can think of, children are often brutally raped and then killed. This has been going on since the world is populated with humans. Does that mean that if a little girl was brutally raped and killed in your school, its not a big deal and the perpetrator should get a 3 days suspension? In Congo and in Liberia (two examples I have worked with) teenagers are forced to become child soldiers. This has been going for ages, since the world is populated with humans. So if we take you and force you to serve in a military its not a problem? You can try to hide your particular brand of homophobia under this veneer of "oh but it happens to everyone", but your bigotry is quite evident.
He wasn't lying what he said, it happens to everyone, gays aren't special, they are as subjective to be bullied by other people as much as we are, we just have to discourage bullying at the roots, and re-educate the offenders, problem solved, gay or not gay, It does not really matter, People keep on making gay victims special cases. Doesn't really matter
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He could have easily killed him.
I really don't care if he did that because the kid was gay or not. I don't care if this is a hate crime or just a bullying case. Beating someone up like that is a violent crime and should not be tolerated. This kid deserve jail.
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On October 28 2011 22:05 Blasterion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 22:04 turdburgler wrote:On October 28 2011 21:59 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 21:55 Blasterion wrote:On October 28 2011 21:45 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 20:30 Scrimpton wrote:
If the kid wasn't gay this wouldnt have a thread.
People get beaten all the time for no reason, they are less important because they aren't in some minority? But he was gay. And you're greatly deluding yourself if you think gay kids getting creamed at school like this doesn't happen regularly. It does, and it's a serious issue. Basically, two things: 1) A physical assault like this is fucking horrible, no matter what kid it was done to 2) Gay kids at school are the victims of far more bullying in school than straight kids, so yes, it does matter that he's gay But it doesn't matter And you're greatly deluding yourself if straight kids getting creamed at school doesn't happen regularly, and like wise it's a serious issue 1)Yes getting attacked is pretty horrible 2)Fat kids, Kids of different race, nerds, geeks, are victims to similar bullying school compared gay kids, so no, don't consider gay on a special tier, they're not that special. What I don't understand, gays want equality with us straights, and we don't mind that, so don't make each case into a special case because the victim is gay, being gay doesn't make them more special than the rest of us Don't be dumb. My point 1 directly addressed that anyone getting creamed at school is a bad thing and serious. The point is gays get proportionately massively more bullying than straight kids. Is the same true of black kids or whatever? Yes, also awful. But the point in hand is that the kid is gay and gays get an extremely tough time of it in schools. you are saying more gay kids get beaten up like its even relevent, its not. more women get raped than men, but is raping a guy any better or worse? no its just rape, its all bad. by singling out the bully by saying "what you did was more bad because the victim was gay" we are supporting the notion that gay people are different to straight people, and that they need to be treated differently. we are agreeing with the bullys madness if not his method. Exactly, If the gays really wanted equality they shouldn't expect special treatments, with that said, yeah assault is bad, sucks, horrible, and should be punished, and properly re-educated
I could give a fuck less what the reason was for the premeditated, unprovoked CONCUSSIVE ASSAULT on a kid.
The guy who did it deserves to be severely beaten and jailed, regardless of his reasoning or his victim. It could have been a straight white male football player. WHO THE FUCK CARES? He premeditated an assault on a completely innocent person. Fuck you if you think he shouldn't be punished.
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On October 28 2011 22:08 redviper wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 22:03 Blasterion wrote:On October 28 2011 21:59 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 21:55 Blasterion wrote:On October 28 2011 21:45 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 20:30 Scrimpton wrote:
If the kid wasn't gay this wouldnt have a thread.
People get beaten all the time for no reason, they are less important because they aren't in some minority? But he was gay. And you're greatly deluding yourself if you think gay kids getting creamed at school like this doesn't happen regularly. It does, and it's a serious issue. Basically, two things: 1) A physical assault like this is fucking horrible, no matter what kid it was done to 2) Gay kids at school are the victims of far more bullying in school than straight kids, so yes, it does matter that he's gay But it doesn't matter And you're greatly deluding yourself if straight kids getting creamed at school doesn't happen regularly, and like wise it's a serious issue 1)Yes getting attacked is pretty horrible 2)Fat kids, Kids of different race, nerds, geeks, are victims to similar bullying school compared gay kids, so no, don't consider gay on a special tier, they're not that special. What I don't understand, gays want equality with us straights, and we don't mind that, so don't make each case into a special case because the victim is gay, being gay doesn't make them more special than the rest of us Don't be dumb. My point 1 directly addressed that anyone getting creamed at school is a bad thing and serious. The point is gays get proportionately massively more bullying than straight kids. Is the same true of black kids or whatever? Yes, also awful. But the point in hand is that the kid is gay and gays get an extremely tough time of it in schools. lol don't raise the gays on a silver platter, kids get bullied it sucks, terrible, horrific things happen. But think to yourself, would it be newsworthy if the victim wasn't gay? School bullying, must be solved, but if the gays want equality they shouldn't always make themselves "special cases" What bullshit is this? Its assault because of the actions and its a hate crime because of the motivation. So you think racial equality means that if a race based hate crime happens we should ignore it because black people (or chinese people since you are from china) want equality so they shouldn't always make themselves special cases? Seriously what the heck is wrong with people like you. Try to put yourself in the victims shoes for a few minutes.
Why would I want to make a special case, if I wanted equality? If I wanted equality with white people, I should let the situation be resolved as if I was a white kid, right? I mean If I really wanted equality, race wouldn't matter right?
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On October 28 2011 22:08 redviper wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 22:03 Blasterion wrote:On October 28 2011 21:59 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 21:55 Blasterion wrote:On October 28 2011 21:45 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 20:30 Scrimpton wrote:
If the kid wasn't gay this wouldnt have a thread.
People get beaten all the time for no reason, they are less important because they aren't in some minority? But he was gay. And you're greatly deluding yourself if you think gay kids getting creamed at school like this doesn't happen regularly. It does, and it's a serious issue. Basically, two things: 1) A physical assault like this is fucking horrible, no matter what kid it was done to 2) Gay kids at school are the victims of far more bullying in school than straight kids, so yes, it does matter that he's gay But it doesn't matter And you're greatly deluding yourself if straight kids getting creamed at school doesn't happen regularly, and like wise it's a serious issue 1)Yes getting attacked is pretty horrible 2)Fat kids, Kids of different race, nerds, geeks, are victims to similar bullying school compared gay kids, so no, don't consider gay on a special tier, they're not that special. What I don't understand, gays want equality with us straights, and we don't mind that, so don't make each case into a special case because the victim is gay, being gay doesn't make them more special than the rest of us Don't be dumb. My point 1 directly addressed that anyone getting creamed at school is a bad thing and serious. The point is gays get proportionately massively more bullying than straight kids. Is the same true of black kids or whatever? Yes, also awful. But the point in hand is that the kid is gay and gays get an extremely tough time of it in schools. lol don't raise the gays on a silver platter, kids get bullied it sucks, terrible, horrific things happen. But think to yourself, would it be newsworthy if the victim wasn't gay? School bullying, must be solved, but if the gays want equality they shouldn't always make themselves "special cases" What bullshit is this? Its assault because of the actions and its a hate crime because of the motivation. So you think racial equality means that if a race based hate crime happens we should ignore it because black people (or chinese people since you are from china) want equality so they shouldn't always make themselves special cases? Seriously what the heck is wrong with people like you. Try to put yourself in the victims shoes for a few minutes.
try to put yourself in a white teenage male victims shoes, telling him that his pain isnt as bad because what happened to him doesnt happen to many other white kids
On October 28 2011 22:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 22:05 Blasterion wrote:On October 28 2011 22:04 turdburgler wrote:On October 28 2011 21:59 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 21:55 Blasterion wrote:On October 28 2011 21:45 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 20:30 Scrimpton wrote:
If the kid wasn't gay this wouldnt have a thread.
People get beaten all the time for no reason, they are less important because they aren't in some minority? But he was gay. And you're greatly deluding yourself if you think gay kids getting creamed at school like this doesn't happen regularly. It does, and it's a serious issue. Basically, two things: 1) A physical assault like this is fucking horrible, no matter what kid it was done to 2) Gay kids at school are the victims of far more bullying in school than straight kids, so yes, it does matter that he's gay But it doesn't matter And you're greatly deluding yourself if straight kids getting creamed at school doesn't happen regularly, and like wise it's a serious issue 1)Yes getting attacked is pretty horrible 2)Fat kids, Kids of different race, nerds, geeks, are victims to similar bullying school compared gay kids, so no, don't consider gay on a special tier, they're not that special. What I don't understand, gays want equality with us straights, and we don't mind that, so don't make each case into a special case because the victim is gay, being gay doesn't make them more special than the rest of us Don't be dumb. My point 1 directly addressed that anyone getting creamed at school is a bad thing and serious. The point is gays get proportionately massively more bullying than straight kids. Is the same true of black kids or whatever? Yes, also awful. But the point in hand is that the kid is gay and gays get an extremely tough time of it in schools. you are saying more gay kids get beaten up like its even relevent, its not. more women get raped than men, but is raping a guy any better or worse? no its just rape, its all bad. by singling out the bully by saying "what you did was more bad because the victim was gay" we are supporting the notion that gay people are different to straight people, and that they need to be treated differently. we are agreeing with the bullys madness if not his method. Exactly, If the gays really wanted equality they shouldn't expect special treatments, with that said, yeah assault is bad, sucks, horrible, and should be punished, and properly re-educated I could give a fuck less what the reason was for the premeditated, unprovoked CONCUSSIVE ASSAULT on a kid. The guy who did it deserves to be severely beaten and jailed, regardless of his reasoning or his victim. It could have been a straight white male football player. WHO THE FUCK CARES? He premeditated an assault on a completely innocent person. Fuck you if you think he shouldn't be punished.
you managed to read the exact opposite of what he said, quite the accomplishment
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On October 28 2011 22:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 22:05 Blasterion wrote:On October 28 2011 22:04 turdburgler wrote:On October 28 2011 21:59 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 21:55 Blasterion wrote:On October 28 2011 21:45 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 20:30 Scrimpton wrote:
If the kid wasn't gay this wouldnt have a thread.
People get beaten all the time for no reason, they are less important because they aren't in some minority? But he was gay. And you're greatly deluding yourself if you think gay kids getting creamed at school like this doesn't happen regularly. It does, and it's a serious issue. Basically, two things: 1) A physical assault like this is fucking horrible, no matter what kid it was done to 2) Gay kids at school are the victims of far more bullying in school than straight kids, so yes, it does matter that he's gay But it doesn't matter And you're greatly deluding yourself if straight kids getting creamed at school doesn't happen regularly, and like wise it's a serious issue 1)Yes getting attacked is pretty horrible 2)Fat kids, Kids of different race, nerds, geeks, are victims to similar bullying school compared gay kids, so no, don't consider gay on a special tier, they're not that special. What I don't understand, gays want equality with us straights, and we don't mind that, so don't make each case into a special case because the victim is gay, being gay doesn't make them more special than the rest of us Don't be dumb. My point 1 directly addressed that anyone getting creamed at school is a bad thing and serious. The point is gays get proportionately massively more bullying than straight kids. Is the same true of black kids or whatever? Yes, also awful. But the point in hand is that the kid is gay and gays get an extremely tough time of it in schools. you are saying more gay kids get beaten up like its even relevent, its not. more women get raped than men, but is raping a guy any better or worse? no its just rape, its all bad. by singling out the bully by saying "what you did was more bad because the victim was gay" we are supporting the notion that gay people are different to straight people, and that they need to be treated differently. we are agreeing with the bullys madness if not his method. Exactly, If the gays really wanted equality they shouldn't expect special treatments, with that said, yeah assault is bad, sucks, horrible, and should be punished, and properly re-educated I could give a fuck less what the reason was for the premeditated, unprovoked CONCUSSIVE ASSAULT on a kid. The guy who did it deserves to be severely beaten and jailed, regardless of his reasoning or his victim. It could have been a straight white male football player. WHO THE FUCK CARES? He premeditated an assault on a completely innocent person. Fuck you if you think he shouldn't be punished.
Exactly! It Doesn't matter! It's an assault and should be resolved as such. Nobody should gives half a crap that the victim was gay, they should resolved the issue as what it is
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
On October 28 2011 22:04 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2011 21:59 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 21:55 Blasterion wrote:On October 28 2011 21:45 marvellosity wrote:On October 28 2011 20:30 Scrimpton wrote:
If the kid wasn't gay this wouldnt have a thread.
People get beaten all the time for no reason, they are less important because they aren't in some minority? But he was gay. And you're greatly deluding yourself if you think gay kids getting creamed at school like this doesn't happen regularly. It does, and it's a serious issue. Basically, two things: 1) A physical assault like this is fucking horrible, no matter what kid it was done to 2) Gay kids at school are the victims of far more bullying in school than straight kids, so yes, it does matter that he's gay But it doesn't matter And you're greatly deluding yourself if straight kids getting creamed at school doesn't happen regularly, and like wise it's a serious issue 1)Yes getting attacked is pretty horrible 2)Fat kids, Kids of different race, nerds, geeks, are victims to similar bullying school compared gay kids, so no, don't consider gay on a special tier, they're not that special. What I don't understand, gays want equality with us straights, and we don't mind that, so don't make each case into a special case because the victim is gay, being gay doesn't make them more special than the rest of us Don't be dumb. My point 1 directly addressed that anyone getting creamed at school is a bad thing and serious. The point is gays get proportionately massively more bullying than straight kids. Is the same true of black kids or whatever? Yes, also awful. But the point in hand is that the kid is gay and gays get an extremely tough time of it in schools. you are saying more gay kids get beaten up like its even relevent, its not. more women get raped than men, but is raping a guy any better or worse? no its just rape, its all bad. by singling out the bully by saying "what you did was more bad because the victim was gay" we are supporting the notion that gay people are different to straight people, and that they need to be treated differently. we are agreeing with the bullys madness if not his method.
Gay kids ARE different, because they get picked on disproportionately. Do we wish this wasn't the case? Yes.
If, in a world that wasn't this one currently, gays don't get bullied all the time and in this instance the kid just HAPPENED to be gay, I'd completely agree with you.
But we live in a world where gay kids do get picked on disproportionately, and it doesn't help to sweep it under the mat by saying "they want equality, this should be treated like nothing else", because gay kids DO get treated differently, all around the world.
It isn't irrelevant that he's gay, because gay bullying is a specific and awful problem.
Just take a look at any of the teen suicide rates. To all the gays who attempt/commit suicide because of their mistreatment by their peers, this is a very serious issue.
Unless you're suggesting that vastly higher suicide rates aren't something we should be looking at, because gays are no different.
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