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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
Killscreen
Profile Joined February 2012
188 Posts
June 30 2014 14:39 GMT
#10121
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 14:40:50
June 30 2014 14:39 GMT
#10122
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.

I really hope she breaks up with you and calls you a scumbag like you are.
I don't even know nor will I ever meet that girl i feel sorry for her having you ever enter her life

On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


You reek of someone thats never had a relationship before l0l. If you're dating someone(put a label on it for example) cheating is usually a bad thing, unless you decided on an open relationship, which most people arent cool with.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Killscreen
Profile Joined February 2012
188 Posts
June 30 2014 14:52 GMT
#10123
On June 30 2014 23:39 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.

I really hope she breaks up with you and calls you a scumbag like you are.
I don't even know nor will I ever meet that girl i feel sorry for her having you ever enter her life

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


You reek of someone thats never had a relationship before l0l. If you're dating someone(put a label on it for example) cheating is usually a bad thing, unless you decided on an open relationship, which most people arent cool with.


Again, how is it a "relationship" if they're not having sex? If I were dating a girl for a long period of time without having sex ( not that I ever would. Just seems stupid IMO ) I would not have any qualms about having sex with someone else, and I wouldn't expect the girl to not have sex either. That's just me though.. Agree to disagree.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44992 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 14:53:52
June 30 2014 14:52 GMT
#10124
On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


Being in an exclusive relationship does not necessarily equal sex all the time. You can certainly cheat on someone before you start having sex with them.

And yeah, SUINELLA sounds like a jerk when it comes to relationships :/

On June 30 2014 23:52 Killscreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:39 arb wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.

I really hope she breaks up with you and calls you a scumbag like you are.
I don't even know nor will I ever meet that girl i feel sorry for her having you ever enter her life

On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


You reek of someone thats never had a relationship before l0l. If you're dating someone(put a label on it for example) cheating is usually a bad thing, unless you decided on an open relationship, which most people arent cool with.


Again, how is it a "relationship" if they're not having sex? If I were dating a girl for a long period of time without having sex ( not that I ever would. Just seems stupid IMO ) I would not have any qualms about having sex with someone else, and I wouldn't expect the girl to not have sex either. That's just me though.. Agree to disagree.


lol it's not "agree to disagree" if you're exclusive. You break up with them if you want to see other people. You don't fuck/ sleep around like a douche.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Killscreen
Profile Joined February 2012
188 Posts
June 30 2014 14:57 GMT
#10125
On June 30 2014 23:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


Being in an exclusive relationship does not necessarily equal sex all the time. You can certainly cheat on someone before you start having sex with them.

And yeah, SUINELLA sounds like a jerk when it comes to relationships :/

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:52 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 arb wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.

I really hope she breaks up with you and calls you a scumbag like you are.
I don't even know nor will I ever meet that girl i feel sorry for her having you ever enter her life

On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


You reek of someone thats never had a relationship before l0l. If you're dating someone(put a label on it for example) cheating is usually a bad thing, unless you decided on an open relationship, which most people arent cool with.


Again, how is it a "relationship" if they're not having sex? If I were dating a girl for a long period of time without having sex ( not that I ever would. Just seems stupid IMO ) I would not have any qualms about having sex with someone else, and I wouldn't expect the girl to not have sex either. That's just me though.. Agree to disagree.


lol it's not "agree to disagree" if you're exclusive. You break up with them if you want to see other people. You don't fuck/ sleep around like a douche.

Well, guess I didn't catch the part where they promised each other to be celibate together
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 30 2014 14:58 GMT
#10126
On June 30 2014 23:57 Killscreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


Being in an exclusive relationship does not necessarily equal sex all the time. You can certainly cheat on someone before you start having sex with them.

And yeah, SUINELLA sounds like a jerk when it comes to relationships :/

On June 30 2014 23:52 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 arb wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.

I really hope she breaks up with you and calls you a scumbag like you are.
I don't even know nor will I ever meet that girl i feel sorry for her having you ever enter her life

On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


You reek of someone thats never had a relationship before l0l. If you're dating someone(put a label on it for example) cheating is usually a bad thing, unless you decided on an open relationship, which most people arent cool with.


Again, how is it a "relationship" if they're not having sex? If I were dating a girl for a long period of time without having sex ( not that I ever would. Just seems stupid IMO ) I would not have any qualms about having sex with someone else, and I wouldn't expect the girl to not have sex either. That's just me though.. Agree to disagree.


lol it's not "agree to disagree" if you're exclusive. You break up with them if you want to see other people. You don't fuck/ sleep around like a douche.

Well, guess I didn't catch the part where they promised each other to be celibate together

are you and him the same person or are you both just trolls
i cant tell
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44992 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 15:21:59
June 30 2014 14:59 GMT
#10127
On June 30 2014 20:45 kekosaurus wrote:
Ok so I read a good amount of these posts and I feel that I needed to contribute with my recent failure.

+ Show Spoiler +

Little bit of background, I am a teacher in a university still in the early years of my life. Every year as you may know new students come and begin their studies. I teach on a predominately male course (Comp Sci) so women are few and far between where I work. Needless to say I have been doing this job for 4+ years now and I am really enjoying it.

Anyway September 2013 saw the arrival of the new students, difference being that one of these students was a rather attractive female, who at the time didn't really catch my attention. As the year went on I became more and more interested in her, as I found out more about her, and it seemed that she liked me too. We had similar interests and were begging to start opening up to one another.

Before anyone says that I shouldn't be looking into one of my students, then let me put this straight. I have no contractual limitations when forming a relationship with anyone in the university, and all people in the university are over the legal age etc etc. It is however frowned upon by the upper management as some groups have to be reorganised, but this doesn't take time at all.

So with this in mind I still was wary of how to approach the situation, because if all went well then we could see each other more often. However if I did miss read the signs then I could be faced with an awkward position in my job role. I decided to confide in my friend, who listened and agreed to help assess the situation and bring us closer together. For the first month this was great, we spent more time together and it was good fun.

Now for the depressive part. To say the least I am destroyed over all of this as I found out last night that my so called friend, had taken advantage of the situation (That I had to take things slower than people normally would due to work implications) and decided to begin dating her. I really have no clue what to do or where to turn to, because I still, especially now, can't tell her how I feel. He did say he would never tell her and he feels like an arsehole, however I just don't think that quite cuts it. Am I over reacting? SI there anything I can do about the cluster fuck of a mess I'm in now?

Finally to all who read this and replied, thank you for your time.


I'm also a university professor also with no contractual limitations towards dating my students, who also teaches a predominantly male subject (mathematics) and has also taught attractive females who I've noticed are attracted to me too because I'm also young just like you.

Don't. Do. It.

Even if you're not contractually obligated to not pursue them, it will create headaches for you. Your students won't trust you, rumors will spread, the faculty won't trust you, etc. Don't shit where you eat.

Also, how the hell do you have 0 posts? ( EDIT: Alaric explained to me )
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44992 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 15:00:22
June 30 2014 14:59 GMT
#10128
On June 30 2014 23:57 Killscreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


Being in an exclusive relationship does not necessarily equal sex all the time. You can certainly cheat on someone before you start having sex with them.

And yeah, SUINELLA sounds like a jerk when it comes to relationships :/

On June 30 2014 23:52 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 arb wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.

I really hope she breaks up with you and calls you a scumbag like you are.
I don't even know nor will I ever meet that girl i feel sorry for her having you ever enter her life

On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


You reek of someone thats never had a relationship before l0l. If you're dating someone(put a label on it for example) cheating is usually a bad thing, unless you decided on an open relationship, which most people arent cool with.


Again, how is it a "relationship" if they're not having sex? If I were dating a girl for a long period of time without having sex ( not that I ever would. Just seems stupid IMO ) I would not have any qualms about having sex with someone else, and I wouldn't expect the girl to not have sex either. That's just me though.. Agree to disagree.


lol it's not "agree to disagree" if you're exclusive. You break up with them if you want to see other people. You don't fuck/ sleep around like a douche.

Well, guess I didn't catch the part where they promised each other to be celibate together


I guess I missed the part where you knew what a relationship was

You seem to think that sex is the only important factor in a successful relationship. You're wrong.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Killscreen
Profile Joined February 2012
188 Posts
June 30 2014 15:01 GMT
#10129
On June 30 2014 23:58 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:57 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


Being in an exclusive relationship does not necessarily equal sex all the time. You can certainly cheat on someone before you start having sex with them.

And yeah, SUINELLA sounds like a jerk when it comes to relationships :/

On June 30 2014 23:52 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 arb wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.

I really hope she breaks up with you and calls you a scumbag like you are.
I don't even know nor will I ever meet that girl i feel sorry for her having you ever enter her life

On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


You reek of someone thats never had a relationship before l0l. If you're dating someone(put a label on it for example) cheating is usually a bad thing, unless you decided on an open relationship, which most people arent cool with.


Again, how is it a "relationship" if they're not having sex? If I were dating a girl for a long period of time without having sex ( not that I ever would. Just seems stupid IMO ) I would not have any qualms about having sex with someone else, and I wouldn't expect the girl to not have sex either. That's just me though.. Agree to disagree.


lol it's not "agree to disagree" if you're exclusive. You break up with them if you want to see other people. You don't fuck/ sleep around like a douche.

Well, guess I didn't catch the part where they promised each other to be celibate together

are you and him the same person or are you both just trolls
i cant tell


Take a deep breath buddy, no reason to get angry here. Disagreeing is not disrespecting.
Killscreen
Profile Joined February 2012
188 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-30 15:03:35
June 30 2014 15:02 GMT
#10130
On June 30 2014 23:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:57 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


Being in an exclusive relationship does not necessarily equal sex all the time. You can certainly cheat on someone before you start having sex with them.

And yeah, SUINELLA sounds like a jerk when it comes to relationships :/

On June 30 2014 23:52 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 arb wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.

I really hope she breaks up with you and calls you a scumbag like you are.
I don't even know nor will I ever meet that girl i feel sorry for her having you ever enter her life

On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


You reek of someone thats never had a relationship before l0l. If you're dating someone(put a label on it for example) cheating is usually a bad thing, unless you decided on an open relationship, which most people arent cool with.


Again, how is it a "relationship" if they're not having sex? If I were dating a girl for a long period of time without having sex ( not that I ever would. Just seems stupid IMO ) I would not have any qualms about having sex with someone else, and I wouldn't expect the girl to not have sex either. That's just me though.. Agree to disagree.


lol it's not "agree to disagree" if you're exclusive. You break up with them if you want to see other people. You don't fuck/ sleep around like a douche.

Well, guess I didn't catch the part where they promised each other to be celibate together


I guess I missed the part where you knew what a relationship was

You seem to think that sex is the only important factor in a successful relationship. You're wrong.

Its not the only important factor, but it is the most important factor. Good sex is the foundation and a prerequisite of every good relationship.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
June 30 2014 15:03 GMT
#10131
On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?

Cheating isn't about sex, it's about deception on the relationship agreement (acknowledged or not).

Besides yes, you can be exclusive with someone you don't have sex with. Teens are doing it all the time.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44992 Posts
June 30 2014 15:04 GMT
#10132
On July 01 2014 00:02 Killscreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:57 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


Being in an exclusive relationship does not necessarily equal sex all the time. You can certainly cheat on someone before you start having sex with them.

And yeah, SUINELLA sounds like a jerk when it comes to relationships :/

On June 30 2014 23:52 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 arb wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.

I really hope she breaks up with you and calls you a scumbag like you are.
I don't even know nor will I ever meet that girl i feel sorry for her having you ever enter her life

On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


You reek of someone thats never had a relationship before l0l. If you're dating someone(put a label on it for example) cheating is usually a bad thing, unless you decided on an open relationship, which most people arent cool with.


Again, how is it a "relationship" if they're not having sex? If I were dating a girl for a long period of time without having sex ( not that I ever would. Just seems stupid IMO ) I would not have any qualms about having sex with someone else, and I wouldn't expect the girl to not have sex either. That's just me though.. Agree to disagree.


lol it's not "agree to disagree" if you're exclusive. You break up with them if you want to see other people. You don't fuck/ sleep around like a douche.

Well, guess I didn't catch the part where they promised each other to be celibate together


I guess I missed the part where you knew what a relationship was

You seem to think that sex is the only important factor in a successful relationship. You're wrong.

Its not the only important factor, but it is the most important factor. Good sex is the foundation and a prerequisite of every good relationship.


And now I leave you alone in your own little world.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Killscreen
Profile Joined February 2012
188 Posts
June 30 2014 15:05 GMT
#10133
On July 01 2014 00:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 00:02 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:57 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


Being in an exclusive relationship does not necessarily equal sex all the time. You can certainly cheat on someone before you start having sex with them.

And yeah, SUINELLA sounds like a jerk when it comes to relationships :/

On June 30 2014 23:52 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 arb wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.

I really hope she breaks up with you and calls you a scumbag like you are.
I don't even know nor will I ever meet that girl i feel sorry for her having you ever enter her life

On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


You reek of someone thats never had a relationship before l0l. If you're dating someone(put a label on it for example) cheating is usually a bad thing, unless you decided on an open relationship, which most people arent cool with.


Again, how is it a "relationship" if they're not having sex? If I were dating a girl for a long period of time without having sex ( not that I ever would. Just seems stupid IMO ) I would not have any qualms about having sex with someone else, and I wouldn't expect the girl to not have sex either. That's just me though.. Agree to disagree.


lol it's not "agree to disagree" if you're exclusive. You break up with them if you want to see other people. You don't fuck/ sleep around like a douche.

Well, guess I didn't catch the part where they promised each other to be celibate together


I guess I missed the part where you knew what a relationship was

You seem to think that sex is the only important factor in a successful relationship. You're wrong.

Its not the only important factor, but it is the most important factor. Good sex is the foundation and a prerequisite of every good relationship.


And now I leave you alone in your own little world.

Really? You disagree with that? Wow, okay then. Thanks for leaving me
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44992 Posts
June 30 2014 15:09 GMT
#10134
On June 30 2014 07:56 Najda wrote:
So sort of a dumb question that I know I'm overthinking, how do I go about getting a second date? Went on a first date with a girl, sort of just a "get to know eachother" sort of thing, walked around on the beach for a bit and got some ice cream. She seems interesting enough that a second date would be worth it but I'm terrible at texting and don't really know how to arrange it. She said she is busy all week working but wants to hang out again but left it kind of open.


Text or call her after her busy week is over (or as it's ending) and ask her if she'd like to go do X with you. Figure out what X is beforehand. Be open and flexible with her schedule. Just be straightforward and nice about it
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18104 Posts
June 30 2014 15:09 GMT
#10135
On June 30 2014 23:52 Killscreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:39 arb wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.

I really hope she breaks up with you and calls you a scumbag like you are.
I don't even know nor will I ever meet that girl i feel sorry for her having you ever enter her life

On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


You reek of someone thats never had a relationship before l0l. If you're dating someone(put a label on it for example) cheating is usually a bad thing, unless you decided on an open relationship, which most people arent cool with.


Again, how is it a "relationship" if they're not having sex? If I were dating a girl for a long period of time without having sex ( not that I ever would. Just seems stupid IMO ) I would not have any qualms about having sex with someone else, and I wouldn't expect the girl to not have sex either. That's just me though.. Agree to disagree.


Newsflash: the world does not revolve around having sex, and you can have an exclusive relationship without sex.

That you consider it impossible says more about you than anything else really. Unless SUINELLA's gf agreed that he could go elsewhere for sex, it's cheating. And everything he has said so far indicates that he hasn't talked about it with her and he knows he's cheating on her. He just doesn't give a shit... which makes him a giant twat.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
June 30 2014 15:14 GMT
#10136
On July 01 2014 00:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 00:02 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:57 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


Being in an exclusive relationship does not necessarily equal sex all the time. You can certainly cheat on someone before you start having sex with them.

And yeah, SUINELLA sounds like a jerk when it comes to relationships :/

On June 30 2014 23:52 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 arb wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.

I really hope she breaks up with you and calls you a scumbag like you are.
I don't even know nor will I ever meet that girl i feel sorry for her having you ever enter her life

On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


You reek of someone thats never had a relationship before l0l. If you're dating someone(put a label on it for example) cheating is usually a bad thing, unless you decided on an open relationship, which most people arent cool with.


Again, how is it a "relationship" if they're not having sex? If I were dating a girl for a long period of time without having sex ( not that I ever would. Just seems stupid IMO ) I would not have any qualms about having sex with someone else, and I wouldn't expect the girl to not have sex either. That's just me though.. Agree to disagree.


lol it's not "agree to disagree" if you're exclusive. You break up with them if you want to see other people. You don't fuck/ sleep around like a douche.

Well, guess I didn't catch the part where they promised each other to be celibate together


I guess I missed the part where you knew what a relationship was

You seem to think that sex is the only important factor in a successful relationship. You're wrong.

Its not the only important factor, but it is the most important factor. Good sex is the foundation and a prerequisite of every good relationship.


And now I leave you alone in your own little world.

Go read this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/273445-dating-hows-your-luck?page=501#10020

Basically:
Emotional and/or Intellectual connection + Sexual connection = A dating relationship.
Just emotional + Intellectual connection = Friendship.

So yeah sexual connection is a necessary ingredient to a dating relationship.

On June 30 2014 15:08 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 13:59 Xiphos wrote:
On June 30 2014 13:47 GiveMeCake wrote:
Again, honestly the responses have all been really thought provoking... damn...

If you guys want an update on the situation, I'm in hell. Here is update #3 share in my pain please!

She is going around telling everyone that I am gay at work because I didn't sleep with her that night. She isn't telling anyone the facts at all either. Worse, I found out about another guy (outside of work) that she has been seeing, who apparently she doesn't like but she 'can't make him go away.' To me this means she is actively hooking up with him because he is Mr. Wrong, and more over, confirms that this girl is a complete nympho.

So after she called me gay in front of everyone, I completely shunned her out, as I felt angry as hell because I couldn't defend my self. I was trapped at work with 4 hours left in my shift.

I went straight to the liquor store last night and drank my self to sleep, but not before getting some friendly texts from her. Confusing shit. This morning I went into work again, and things were completely different. She was texting with me, and was flirting with me again, as if nothing had happened.

She sent me 2 messages today at 4 o'clock asking me to take her on a date, but I didn't respond, I just avoided the question. Before that she asked me in person what I was doing tonight and I laughed and said 'I don't know."

I want to sleep with her so bad, but she's against everything I stand for. I'm also heavily insulted and stressed out. Now she has put a clock on me and has brought the entire office into this game of hers. I am SCREWED. I have no choice but to take her out and bang her, and I know it's going to be a HUGE disappointment.

Also, I found out she has had a drink every night since the night we went on our date (last Wednesday).

FML! WTF is wrong with people these days, I'm honestly such a nice guy, I try so hard to please everyone.



But you are not genuine.

You see, you are only being nice because you are expecting something in return.

This renders to two effects:

1. They know that deep inside you are not "honestly such a nice guy" but simply being one for selfish reasons. If you are truly nice, you wouldn't expect anything in return because its what you want.

2. Since they know that they can just walk all over you and you still remain nice means that they can exploit this tendency of yours to their advantage.

So what you need to do is to change your attitude into something more attractive. And you can do it either of the following two ways:

1. You can stop acting bitter afterward and play the "nice guy" as genuinely as possible, this means to truly internalize the ingenuity of your kindness and show only real happiness when you try to help them. You will be a "Jesus-esque" character.

2. You can go swing the other direction. By showing absolute bitterness toward everything. That you should prove other people that you are no longer their pushovers and begin to handle yourself properly by not being taken advantage of. You are a beast in the jungle, its you vs all the external environmental obstacles, artificial or biological.

At the very end: If you are TRULY willing to take yourself to the next level of improvement, this is something you need to think about. And the more you improve, the higher will the quality of your dating experience be.

The.Choice.Is.Yours.


Sorry, but what is it that he is "expecting" that makes him not a nice guy? I agree that he shouldn't think that he should do well just because he's 'a nice guy' in the cosmic sense, but he's at least shown enough forbearance to prove that he's not just putting on a nice guy act and then expecting sex or a relationship. He's probably not 'a nice guy', but he's probably a normal guy.

And, OP, you're probably underestimating the extent that the rest of your office notices the antics of this girl, if you're telling the truth.


Expecting other people to be NICE back to him DESPITE the fact that "He's probably not 'a nice guy', but he's probably a normal guy."
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Killscreen
Profile Joined February 2012
188 Posts
June 30 2014 15:14 GMT
#10137
On July 01 2014 00:09 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 23:52 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 arb wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.

I really hope she breaks up with you and calls you a scumbag like you are.
I don't even know nor will I ever meet that girl i feel sorry for her having you ever enter her life

On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


You reek of someone thats never had a relationship before l0l. If you're dating someone(put a label on it for example) cheating is usually a bad thing, unless you decided on an open relationship, which most people arent cool with.


Again, how is it a "relationship" if they're not having sex? If I were dating a girl for a long period of time without having sex ( not that I ever would. Just seems stupid IMO ) I would not have any qualms about having sex with someone else, and I wouldn't expect the girl to not have sex either. That's just me though.. Agree to disagree.


Newsflash: the world does not revolve around having sex, and you can have an exclusive relationship without sex.

That you consider it impossible says more about you than anything else really. Unless SUINELLA's gf agreed that he could go elsewhere for sex, it's cheating. And everything he has said so far indicates that he hasn't talked about it with her and he knows he's cheating on her. He just doesn't give a shit... which makes him a giant twat.

Sex is the single most important drive in all sexually reproducing life. Every emotion we experience is optimized towards reproducing. I think sex plays a more important part in the world than you think.

Anyway, where I'm from, exclusivity isn't assumed. IE, unless explicitly agreed to, dating/sex in itself does not imply exclusivity.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44992 Posts
June 30 2014 15:17 GMT
#10138
On June 30 2014 13:47 GiveMeCake wrote:
Again, honestly the responses have all been really thought provoking... damn...

If you guys want an update on the situation, I'm in hell. Here is update #3 share in my pain please!

She is going around telling everyone that I am gay at work because I didn't sleep with her that night. She isn't telling anyone the facts at all either. Worse, I found out about another guy (outside of work) that she has been seeing, who apparently she doesn't like but she 'can't make him go away.' To me this means she is actively hooking up with him because he is Mr. Wrong, and more over, confirms that this girl is a complete nympho.

So after she called me gay in front of everyone, I completely shunned her out, as I felt angry as hell because I couldn't defend my self. I was trapped at work with 4 hours left in my shift.

I went straight to the liquor store last night and drank my self to sleep, but not before getting some friendly texts from her. Confusing shit. This morning I went into work again, and things were completely different. She was texting with me, and was flirting with me again, as if nothing had happened.

She sent me 2 messages today at 4 o'clock asking me to take her on a date, but I didn't respond, I just avoided the question. Before that she asked me in person what I was doing tonight and I laughed and said 'I don't know."

I want to sleep with her so bad, but she's against everything I stand for. I'm also heavily insulted and stressed out. Now she has put a clock on me and has brought the entire office into this game of hers. I am SCREWED. I have no choice but to take her out and bang her, and I know it's going to be a HUGE disappointment.

Also, I found out she has had a drink every night since the night we went on our date (last Wednesday).

FML! WTF is wrong with people these days, I'm honestly such a nice guy, I try so hard to please everyone.



I'm thinking... this:



If she's against "everything you stand for" and is as crazy as you say, don't sleep with her. It's often hard for the brain to win over the dick, but it'll only complicate things for you if you give in to her.

Also, be straightforward with her. Don't dodge her texts or give her ambiguous answers. Keep telling her No.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
SUINELLA
Profile Joined April 2014
Italy0 Posts
June 30 2014 15:24 GMT
#10139
On July 01 2014 00:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 00:02 Killscreen wrote:

You seem to think that sex is the only important factor in a successful relationship. You're wrong.

Its not the only important factor, but it is the most important factor. Good sex is the foundation and a prerequisite of every good relationship.


And now I leave you alone in your own little world. [/QUOTE]

You are wrong, actually sex is the prerequisite of every good relationship.

Regarding the fact that we didn't yet have sex and so i'm not really cheating is just a bad justification that not even me could imagine ahah. We are dating and i think there is a lot of love going on, so cheating this girl is cheating even if she is not yet ready for having sex
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44992 Posts
June 30 2014 15:35 GMT
#10140
On July 01 2014 00:14 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 00:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On July 01 2014 00:02 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:59 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:57 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.


So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


Being in an exclusive relationship does not necessarily equal sex all the time. You can certainly cheat on someone before you start having sex with them.

And yeah, SUINELLA sounds like a jerk when it comes to relationships :/

On June 30 2014 23:52 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:39 arb wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:15 SUINELLA wrote:
i think i did another big mistake

At the gay pride in Venezia i met a friend of mine who was with other two girls, they challenged me and him to remove our clothes and french-kiss, and we did that, then we challenged them and they refused because they are straight, so in the end i started kissing and touching one of them, and my friend the other... well after some time the girls said me that they are flatmates of the girl that im dating and they would tell her. F*** this bad luck and these stupid people.

Anyway i have good news, it seems that she is getting more open to the idea of having sex, and some days ago we got near to that, finally.

I really hope she breaks up with you and calls you a scumbag like you are.
I don't even know nor will I ever meet that girl i feel sorry for her having you ever enter her life

On June 30 2014 23:39 Killscreen wrote:
On June 30 2014 23:31 Cynry wrote:
[quote]

So, you cheat on basically everyone you date, are an overall asshole, and when you get busted it's all on bad luck and stupid people. The way you show yourself here is getting better and better...


How can you cheat on someone you aren't having sex with? Not trying to be a dick here, but is it common to be exclusive with a person you're not sleeping with where you are from?


You reek of someone thats never had a relationship before l0l. If you're dating someone(put a label on it for example) cheating is usually a bad thing, unless you decided on an open relationship, which most people arent cool with.


Again, how is it a "relationship" if they're not having sex? If I were dating a girl for a long period of time without having sex ( not that I ever would. Just seems stupid IMO ) I would not have any qualms about having sex with someone else, and I wouldn't expect the girl to not have sex either. That's just me though.. Agree to disagree.


lol it's not "agree to disagree" if you're exclusive. You break up with them if you want to see other people. You don't fuck/ sleep around like a douche.

Well, guess I didn't catch the part where they promised each other to be celibate together


I guess I missed the part where you knew what a relationship was

You seem to think that sex is the only important factor in a successful relationship. You're wrong.

Its not the only important factor, but it is the most important factor. Good sex is the foundation and a prerequisite of every good relationship.


And now I leave you alone in your own little world.

Go read this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/273445-dating-hows-your-luck?page=501#10020

Basically:
Emotional and/or Intellectual connection + Sexual connection = A dating relationship.
Just emotional + Intellectual connection = Friendship.

So yeah sexual connection is a necessary ingredient to a dating relationship.


Oh ffs don't try to validate that nonsense. You've posted someone else's opinion; cool. Dating someone doesn't require sex. Are you really saying any girlfriend or boyfriend anyone's ever had *doesn't count* unless they've slept together? Or that your girlfriend doesn't *really* become your girlfriend until you've had sex? That's ridiculous, and it's just trying to play off semantics, because what the hell is an exclusive "friendship"? A relationship doesn't start at sex; there are countless other intimate moments and flirting and dating that you've agreed not to perform with others.

If you agree to be in an exclusive relationship with someone, and you end up sleeping around, you've cheated. Period. That's not an opinion; you're literally breaking the agreement between you and your partner. That's what it means to be cheating in a relationship.

If you're unhappy with the arrangement of the relationship (whether sex is expected or not expected or anything else is lacking), you should talk to your partner and try sorting things out. If they can't be sorted out, you should break up with them for whatever reasons, and then move on to fucking other people. You don't cheat on your significant other first and then pretend it's validated just because your dick is in charge.

Sex is extremely important to many relationships, but wanting to have sex with other people just because it's sex doesn't override the commitments you make in an exclusive relationship.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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