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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
October 12 2011 00:57 GMT
#501
On October 12 2011 09:55 Rinrun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 09:05 sunprince wrote:
On October 12 2011 06:48 n.DieJokes wrote:
Whats it like to touch a girl? I heard they're soft


Warm and wet too.

So girls are perma-wet...


Only when The KY is around.

YES. A whole year on TL and that's the first time I got to use my name in a pun.
Sokalo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States375 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 01:02:46
October 12 2011 01:02 GMT
#502
On October 12 2011 09:57 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 09:55 Rinrun wrote:
On October 12 2011 09:05 sunprince wrote:
On October 12 2011 06:48 n.DieJokes wrote:
Whats it like to touch a girl? I heard they're soft


Warm and wet too.

So girls are perma-wet...


Only when The KY is around.

YES. A whole year on TL and that's the first time I got to use my name in a pun.

GOLDEN.

And dare I ask how you ended up with such a name anyway?
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
October 12 2011 01:08 GMT
#503
On October 12 2011 10:02 Sokalo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 09:57 The KY wrote:
On October 12 2011 09:55 Rinrun wrote:
On October 12 2011 09:05 sunprince wrote:
On October 12 2011 06:48 n.DieJokes wrote:
Whats it like to touch a girl? I heard they're soft


Warm and wet too.

So girls are perma-wet...


Only when The KY is around.

YES. A whole year on TL and that's the first time I got to use my name in a pun.

GOLDEN.

And dare I ask how you ended up with such a name anyway?


It's my initials, and my college nickname. Didn't have a car, so;

'Alright so we're meeting at *random girls house* for pre drinks at 7, ok?'

'Yeah but...who's bringing The KY?'

Was funny for about a week then just stuck.
sirachman
Profile Joined April 2011
United States270 Posts
October 12 2011 01:26 GMT
#504
I have also read this entire thread and found one post that stood out immensely.
On October 11 2011 02:14 MaliciousMirth wrote:
Ok after reading EVERY post on this thread I have come to the conclusion that (with the exception of a few who have gotten what they wanted or given advice about how to get it) NO WONDER WOMEN WONT DATE YOU!!!!!

Look, Im not trying to be a dick, but I think some of you need a little honest truth in your lives.......

-"Im just not a social person and it takes me a long time to get comfortable in social situations" Well no shit sherlock NO ONE is comfortable in most social situations especially when meeting a gaggle of new people! The reason it seems like some people can go out and mingle and be social without effort is that THEY HAVE PUT IN THE PRACTICE! Just like playing starcraft or any other game you are nervous as fuck when going online for the first time and you feel like shit when you get beat!! same thing in social situations (GOD DAMNIT PEOPLE BEFORE YOU GO ON A SELF BASHING-A-THON PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE MORE THAN ONCE AND SEE HOW EASY IT GETS!)

-"I just don't want a girlfriend/ I couldnt get one anyway"
you would be surprised at how well tuned a woman is to these kinds of things......A woman can smell desperation like a cheap cologne. They WILL pick up on it if you are showing self esteem problems, or any other self bashing technique that you guys are doing.....confidence is key here guys, and not the brash confidence that comes off as showy or douche baggy im talking about the "i dont give a fuk about what you think of me because I love me" THIS IS WHY THE GIRL GOES HOME WITH THE ASSHOLE, because he could give 2 shits about how she feels about him....girls love when a guy has his shit together and has his own life and really is interested in looking out for himself first!

-"Im stuck in the friend zone"
Yup! because you werent assertive enough and didnt let her know FROM THE GET GO that you wanted her in a way more than just friends. Seriously guys if you like a girl then grow some fuking balls and tell her!!!! You might not get the response you were initially looking for but at least you tried and then you can be friends with her like you were gonna end up doing in the first place and you will have the added benefit of knowing for sure where you stand so you can move on.

-"I cant get a date"
NUMBERS, NUMBERS, NUMBERS.....dating is a numbers game....Just like a sales job you have to make the calls in order to get results.....unless you are Brad Pitt, some other movie star, filthy rich, or just plain lucky YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET A YES OUT OF EVERY GIRL! The worst they can do is say no and how is that so bad? At least you tried! move on to her friend and her friend and her friend and sooner or later you will have that date!

-"I just cant seem to work up the guts to ask her"
You are putting the pussy on a pedestal!~!!!!!!! Yes you read that right. You are exalting something that should not be exalted. These women that you are chasing are JUST as socially awkward as you and they are people with paranoid thoughts and weird quirks JUST LIKE YOU!!!! Why would you get anymore nervous chatting with a female you met at the coffee shop, or wherever, than you would be talkin to a buddy you met watchin the game! Listen to what they say and ask a question about it......SHE WILL KEEP THE CONVERSATION GOING IF SHE IS INTO IT.....if shes not into it then she will probably give you nice hints that she isnt and you can take your coffee and go on with life....nothing lost!

The point Im trying to make here is that alot of you guys are stuck in this pity party world that you have made for yourselves about how I suck doing this thing or that thing, when the fact of the matter is that most of you guys have much higher IQ's than average and have all the necessary skills and equipment to get lots of pussy! ( If you can spend 120 in game days figuring out how to micro/macro your way out of diamond and platinum league challenges in starcraft then you can sure as fuk figure out how to talk to women) If pussy is what you want then get off your computer tonight, take a shower, do some manscaping, put on a nice shirt and go out and be nervous and awkward and weird, until you no longer feel nervous and awkward and weird.

Quoted for intense truth.
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
October 12 2011 01:42 GMT
#505
Pretty intense truth indeed.

I could also add that once you get the self confidence thing down, you can look at bad dates in a slightly different perspective. I like to think of them as a way to find out more about myself.

Meeting new people, and going out on dates in particular helps me learn:
-What I want, particularly from a romantic partner.
-Equally, what I don't want (e.g. the OP's date's self centred complaining)
-How I want to act around others, or simply be generally. Which actions, or lines of conversation felt natural? Which felt forced?

Everything we do is about learning how to better ourselves. Don't pity yourself just because something didn't work out the way you wanted it to, spend your energy learning how to make it work next time!
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
October 12 2011 02:07 GMT
#506
On October 12 2011 01:44 FlamingForce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 06:22 Jayjay54 wrote:
On October 11 2011 06:11 RobbybabyDTF wrote:
On October 11 2011 05:50 Matoo- wrote:
On October 11 2011 05:32 Capped wrote:
On October 11 2011 05:22 Jayjay54 wrote:
I sincerely, SINCERELY hope u r trollin
While im in a fully committed relationship engaged to be married sex is overrated, i'd rather give myself a hand job to be perfectly honest, its faster and gets the job done ^_^

Holy shit I could agree with the "sex is overrated" part in the extent that unlike some men out there I wouldn't waste half of my waking time trying to get laid or managing a shitty gf that I just keep around for sex - I'd rather focus on improving my life, then get a great gf and proceed to have sex all the time - but God, I would NEVER take a self hand job over "real" sex.


What he's saying is that when your with the same girl for months and you have sex quite often it just eventually gets less exciting to the point where you are like fuck it I'd rather just jerk it haha. I remember thinking that with my last girlfriend after about 3 months. This especially happens if the girl doesn't like switching it up trying something new every once in a while


I can totally see that (happened to me as well) and I guess thats why there is affairs and stuff. but then again sex is essentual and so should it be.

procreating was meant in a way that it's humanity's number one objective. Ok maybe number three after eating and drinking. we were programmed to have sex. and I like it that way.

and yes I am away of weird stuff. but this usually still involves another person. and than technically it is sex (no matter what gender and how many feet are involved) and better than being by yourself. I'd say that as soon as you enjoy stuff by yourself more than with a stranger or just somebody else, something is wrong with your libido. maybe eat more fruit...


My libido is quite fine, I'm an introvert and I generally despise people

I despise people, too. We should hang out.
I'll call Nada.
Carnagath
Profile Joined July 2010
230 Posts
October 12 2011 02:50 GMT
#507
Well, I'm introverted, incapable of small talk, short tempered and often hostile towards people I don't know (but really open, loyal and honest towards people I know and like). About 95% of the people I meet, regardless of their gender, have no hobbies or passion about anything, they just work, eat, sleep, fuck and think they will live forever. That's infuriating to me, I just don't understand it. I often feel like I'm surrounded by zombies. That severely limits the pool of people that I'd like to spend more than 2 consecutive hours with, and by extention my dating pool. I'm also not a "one night stand" kind of person. Tried it, I wanted more, she didn't, it was extremely fucking painful, fuck that. To be honest, I've come to turns with those things and don't really care anymore. The only thing that deeply hurts me and keeps me up at night is that I am completely crazy about kids. I am the best uncle in the whole world, and I would kill to have children of my own. Too bad.
"If you can chill, chill". -Tyler
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
October 12 2011 03:06 GMT
#508
On October 12 2011 11:50 Carnagath wrote:
Well, I'm introverted, incapable of small talk, short tempered and often hostile towards people I don't know (but really open, loyal and honest towards people I know and like). About 95% of the people I meet, regardless of their gender, have no hobbies or passion about anything, they just work, eat, sleep, fuck and think they will live forever. That's infuriating to me, I just don't understand it. I often feel like I'm surrounded by zombies. That severely limits the pool of people that I'd like to spend more than 2 consecutive hours with, and by extention my dating pool. I'm also not a "one night stand" kind of person. Tried it, I wanted more, she didn't, it was extremely fucking painful, fuck that. To be honest, I've come to turns with those things and don't really care anymore. The only thing that deeply hurts me and keeps me up at night is that I am completely crazy about kids. I am the best uncle in the whole world, and I would kill to have children of my own. Too bad.


I used to be this way. Then I got over myself.

Honestly, I know it sounds like I'm being a dick to you, but this belief that you're somehow better than the rest of earth's population is obviously making you miserable. How well do you know that 95% of people you meet? You'd be surprised to know that the majority of people out there are interesting and intelligent in their own ways, with hopes and aspirations just like us. You can never see that though because of your preconceived notions about everybody around you.

Once you open up and really start talking to somebody and enjoying their company, you'll learn things about them that will surprise you.
Spiffeh
Profile Joined May 2010
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 03:17:58
October 12 2011 03:17 GMT
#509
I notice high quality people don't usually flaunt their lives when you first meet them, they're trying to get to know you rather than showing you how interesting they are. It can come across that they're boring or have no passions, but you don't usually get that info right off the bat unless you blatantly ask them. Just give it time and most of all, give them a chance. Being judgmental is the quickest way to sever any friendships before they even exist.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
October 12 2011 04:35 GMT
#510
This kind of thread are always the same it's not even funny:

- One guy complains he doesn't have a girlfriend and its obvious it is the same reasons always: insecure, asocial and/or needy. He presents his story and some are "me too" while others are "what the fuck are you doing ??".

- People with a little more experience and let's say tougher skins (?) comes over and tell him to stop being a pussy (more or less):
*Stop caring so much
*Number game/Lot of fishs
*Be a baller
Often it's done a bit agressively though, like they are angry at their old self maybe ?

- Original guy get a bit offended or doesn't believe in it or take the advice from someone that has no clue but his ideas are a lot more acceptable and it's comforting.

- Same post 2 weeks later.

Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
October 12 2011 04:42 GMT
#511
On October 12 2011 11:50 Carnagath wrote:
Well, I'm introverted, incapable of small talk, short tempered and often hostile towards people I don't know (but really open, loyal and honest towards people I know and like). About 95% of the people I meet, regardless of their gender, have no hobbies or passion about anything, they just work, eat, sleep, fuck and think they will live forever. That's infuriating to me, I just don't understand it. I often feel like I'm surrounded by zombies.


Sorry but that is pretty dumb.
Sure people are often bored by their job and their routine but they still have some passions and hobby (and sometime a cool job they like).
On top of that since they are kinda bored they are actually often happy when someone is interested in what they do.

But do not misunderstand it, people week life being a bit dull isn't the same as them being dull.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Mute
Profile Joined August 2010
United States67 Posts
October 12 2011 05:03 GMT
#512
I have read through this whole thread and I have never seen more inaccurate and self-defeating attitudes in my life. How can people who are so methodical, critical, and intelligent with one thing (gaming) be so irrational and uncritical with another (dating/women). It boggles my mind.

I could write a 50 page post in response to all of the inaccurate things I have read in this thread.

But I only have time for now to dispel the biggest one right now:

"I'm a nice guy and I don't get why girls don't like me." That is why they don't like you. This doesn't mean you have to be a jerk either. Let me explain. When you are the nice guy, you do things to try to "win over" the woman. By doing this you demonstrate that you are on a lower level than her. You may perceive the girl's reaction to your kindness as bitchy or stuck-up, but in reality you told her through your actions that you are below her level.

Here's the key: You are the prize, not her. Let me explain it this way. A rich person doesn't have to tell you they are rich. If someone tries to impress you with possessions/money they are most likely up to their eyeballs in debt. It's the same thing with women. A valuable man doesn't need to prove his worth to the woman. Be confident. Challenge them. Call them out on their bullshit. Call them out on their irrationality. Don't give them your attention unless they deserve it. Make them prove themselves to you, rather than proving yourself to them. That stuck-up bitch suddenly becomes a friendly, caring, and beautiful woman.
sunprince
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2258 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 05:16:05
October 12 2011 05:14 GMT
#513
On October 12 2011 09:55 Rinrun wrote:
So girls are perma-wet...


Certain places usually are, at least, if you're doing your job right.

On October 12 2011 09:57 The KY wrote:
Only when The KY is around.

YES. A whole year on TL and that's the first time I got to use my name in a pun.


Epic win.
IamBoIt
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia18 Posts
October 12 2011 05:20 GMT
#514
I dated a girl for about 10 months, gave her everything I could and it wasn't quite enough for her. Obviously the wrong girl.

+ Show Spoiler +
So shit got intense like the week before we even started going out. New experience for me because most of my previous relationships were slowest of slow in the progression along the relationship spectrum. If you sort of get what I mean. Anyhow, after we had got around to doing everything we felt comfortable with the relationship just started to get stale and boring. She started to demand more and more and more and I just started getting over it... It was cutting into my gaming time you know

Anyhow, eventually we broke it off after about 3 months of pain and trying to make it work. It was weird because whenever we were together, in person, it was great, but whenever we weren't it was pretty shocking (talking about the end of the relationship).

Anyhow, we broke up, she's going out with a drop-kick (smokes weed, dropped out of HS etc.) and I finally realise how much of a slut she is. It's weird how we can't see the falliabilities in a person when they are keeping you sexually stimulated. I wanted to say 'in love' but I'd be bullshitting myself if I actually thought I was in love with her.
SojuTerran
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada16 Posts
October 12 2011 05:36 GMT
#515
I date to get a lay. No need ti get in a relationship in my age, My philosophy + Show Spoiler +
"fuck all the bitches while your young"
darr3n
Profile Joined June 2010
101 Posts
October 12 2011 05:41 GMT
#516
I barely see really self-confident and intelligent women. When I hear blabla from women it always turns me down.

There was quite a funny story at a party, where I kicked a women by accident and she wanted a beer for that. We slept together that night, but when I wanted more the day after, she refused me.
I dont really know what I did wrong, I guess she was just not into something more serious than a one-night-stand.
I'm melting
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
October 12 2011 05:54 GMT
#517
On October 12 2011 14:03 Mute wrote:
I have read through this whole thread and I have never seen more inaccurate and self-defeating attitudes in my life. How can people who are so methodical, critical, and intelligent with one thing (gaming) be so irrational and uncritical with another (dating/women). It boggles my mind.

I could write a 50 page post in response to all of the inaccurate things I have read in this thread.

But I only have time for now to dispel the biggest one right now:

"I'm a nice guy and I don't get why girls don't like me." That is why they don't like you. This doesn't mean you have to be a jerk either. Let me explain. When you are the nice guy, you do things to try to "win over" the woman. By doing this you demonstrate that you are on a lower level than her. You may perceive the girl's reaction to your kindness as bitchy or stuck-up, but in reality you told her through your actions that you are below her level.

Here's the key: You are the prize, not her. Let me explain it this way. A rich person doesn't have to tell you they are rich. If someone tries to impress you with possessions/money they are most likely up to their eyeballs in debt. It's the same thing with women. A valuable man doesn't need to prove his worth to the woman. Be confident. Challenge them. Call them out on their bullshit. Call them out on their irrationality. Don't give them your attention unless they deserve it. Make them prove themselves to you, rather than proving yourself to them. That stuck-up bitch suddenly becomes a friendly, caring, and beautiful woman.

Completely agree with your post, except I have a slight issue with the terminology you used. There is a vast difference between a wimp and a nice guy. A wimp is what you mentioned... Someone who attempts to "win over" a girl. On the other hand, a nice guy is just someone who's genuinely nice and caring. It's entirely possible to be a "nice" guy while still being confident and demonstrating that you're at or above a girl's power level.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
DanCaek
Profile Joined July 2011
Lebanon71 Posts
October 12 2011 05:54 GMT
#518
Have a girlfriend for 2 years and half now.
Sex is over rated. I have never enjoyed cuddling and watching a movie so much before.
We've never had a fight fight. If you're constantly fighting with your significant other. Leave them. Don't be jealous. You'll hurt yourself and your relationship. Sometimes being apart from each other makes you realize how much you miss each other (Or don't really give a damn). Sex is still over rated. Don't get me wrong. It's an awesome experience. Just not something you'd prioritize over stability. Anyone who think "SEX WITH CRAZY GIRL IS HOT", is crazy as well. It's not and it will only get you in trouble, because crazy people are crazy. Stop trying to be cool. It only makes you look pathetic.
Peace
Anything unrelated to elephants
TyrantPotato
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1541 Posts
October 12 2011 05:56 GMT
#519
I date in the same manner i play starcraft.

I load up battlenet press find match get into a game.

Then 6 pool.

Because when you 6 pool there are only 3 outcomes.

The first is that you fail miserably and the game ends right then and there. no time wasted press find match again.

The second is that you completely get what you want, you have a blast of a time before the game is over and you are left completely satisfied. press find match again.

The third one is why i 6 pool in the first place. there is one day going to be that game where you match up with someone doing the same thing to you.

6 pooling.

And when two people 6 pool one another, well its usually the most intense game you could ever play. it'll either be the most intense action filled 5 minutes of your life, or the longest closest most insane game ever one that'll never end, or one that you'll look back and think im glad i played that.

Forever ZeNEX.
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
October 12 2011 06:00 GMT
#520
How's my dating life?

Well, they call me DE HOOVER. (Double-Ended Hoover!)

KEKEKE
Happiness only real when shared.
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