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Nqsty
United Kingdom118 Posts
put a bullet through he head and he'd be lucky, if it were an eye for an eye, he'd have 350 through his body. | ||
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Wivyx
Norway624 Posts
On July 23 2011 22:02 Maple Bass wrote: If that is going to be the case, then Norway's rule of law is in effect wrongly applied. You are basically saying you can predict the future in 21 years' time. To be more clear: He will get 21 years. Then, when his time is up they will evaluate if he's sane enough for society. I'm 'predicting' the future when I say: No. He is not. | ||
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aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
On July 23 2011 21:58 TheBanana wrote: I'm pretty sure picking up the people dying in the water is of more help than you slamming them on a forum for recording for 29 seconds while searching. Use your fucking brain and show some respect. I'm pretty sure they wasnt allowed to board the island right away... And I think its really important that they film/take photos of this stuff so that the world can really see how tragic this is. Dont blame the people who got on their boats and risked their life by drving to that island. | ||
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HerroPreaseTN
Norway71 Posts
Yes, sir, sorry. It just sickens me up so much that I have a hard time controlling my temper. Think I should rather get away from the toilet of human kind which is the Internet, and cool off  | ||
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Brundlefly
Norway56 Posts
http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/23/nyheter/solli_plass/politisperringer/bombe/17428182/ | ||
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Dr_Jones
Norway252 Posts
On July 23 2011 22:02 Maple Bass wrote: If that is going to be the case, then Norway's rule of law is in effect wrongly applied. You are basically saying you can predict the future in 21 years' time. When the politicians set the limit at 21 years they would have considered it for the most heinous of crimes - mass murder included. When they passed the forvaring statute then they would have intended it to be used for those who show no remorse and a desire to continue committing crimes upon their release (in a similar fashion to how parole is applied in the US). If that is the case, then why would a murderer who killed one person be eligible for release after 21 years, yet someone who killed 80 not be? Both the family of the one person and one person out of 80 are sharing the same grief. What if this gunman reforms and becomes a 'born-again' Christian like Ted Bundy? The point I am making is this - many here are defaulting to the view that he will be automatically receiving forvaring. In which case forvaring is just another term for punitive life sentence, if technically whether or not one gets forvaring depends on the severity of the crime rather than whether or not the criminal was rehabilitated. I think you need to read up on our judicial system before you make any kind of claim of knowledge on these matters. Besides, if you even begin to try to grasp the criminal psychological profile of this guy, then you might begin to understand he suffers from a number of classic psycopathic tendencies, and if I'm able to tell, then I'm sure as hell a trained individual will too. | ||
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
On July 23 2011 22:02 TheBanana wrote: A friend of my little sister was there, and no one has heard from her still. Another guy on the forum had 3 friends there, 2 is safe, last night they didn't know what happened to the third. I'm glad your friend decided not to go. Might have saved both your lives. Yes. One guy I know is safe at least. | ||
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Dr_Jones
Norway252 Posts
On July 23 2011 22:05 Brundlefly wrote: Seems like Oslo is on really high alert now. A whole square has just been evacuated after some guy ran into a cafe with a bag and ran out. http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/23/nyheter/solli_plass/politisperringer/bombe/17428182/ I just saw this, but it's been called off.... http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10080644 | ||
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zeru
8156 Posts
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
Here you have a crowd-sourced list of persons that are confirmed safe from the camp: https://www.facebook.com/groups/243954442294905?view=doc&id=244003952289954 People at hospitals are not included in the list. | ||
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TeWy
France714 Posts
On July 23 2011 22:03 Nqsty wrote: I don't understand how people can still talk about trials, lawyers, 21 years of jailtime, or even life sentence, this guy should be hanged, there should be no fucking question about it. put a bullet through he head and he'd be lucky, if it were an eye for an eye, he'd have 350 through his body. The guy is a socialist nemesis (in case he is as smart as some people pretend he is, which I doubt). Not only has he killed an incredible amount of them, but also in a verdict of diminished responsibility (which are tolerant socialist laws) he might not spend a single day in prison but only be in a mental hospital until he gets old enough. | ||
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durza
United States667 Posts
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Dali.
New Zealand689 Posts
On July 23 2011 22:01 HerroPreaseTN wrote: Of course it's of more help than slamming them of the forum, but how the fuck does that justify uploading the film on youtube for the whole world to see? Take your own advice. Visual exposure to such things makes us far more aware of the gravity and tragedy of the situation. Seeing those bodies on the shore line expresses more than text and is something which we shouldn't shy away from, even if it distresses us. | ||
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Dr_Jones
Norway252 Posts
Results as of now: Yes: 2'006 votes No: 5'674 votes Unsure: 158 votes | ||
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Maple Bass
22 Posts
On July 23 2011 22:03 Nqsty wrote: I don't understand how people can still talk about trials, lawyers, 21 years of jailtime, or even life sentence, this guy should be hanged, there should be no fucking question about it. put a bullet through he head and he'd be lucky, if it were an eye for an eye, he'd have 350 through his body. To clarify - I totally agree that this guy should get a life sentence - by life I mean literally life. However, I am also pointing out that if we are already presuming that he will get forvaring, then forvaring is basically a useless concept that should be recognised for what it really is - a life sentence. If forvaring means a reformed criminal who is no longer a threat to society, then it is possible that a murderer who killed one person will be eligible for release under forvaring just as a mass murderer who killed 10 people will be eligible for release under forvaring just as a mass murderer who killed 80 people will be eligible for release under forvaring. If forvaring just means someone who did something horrific cannot be eligible for release after 21 years of prison then Norwegian politicians should clarify their law and say in effect there is no 21 year limit and they may as well call forvaring a life sentence. So the point I am making is this - this guy deserves a life sentence. However, I daresay almost everyone who is presuming this guy will get forvaring has no understanding of the concept at all and are basically saying he will get it, even though we have no idea what kind of person he will be in 21 years' time. If he is reformed, then he will not get forvaring. My personal view is forvaring should be abolished and that Norway should just be straight-up and replace it with a life sentence law instead for serious crimes. | ||
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DeSam
Belgium84 Posts
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Dr_Jones
Norway252 Posts
On July 23 2011 22:09 TeWy wrote: The guy is a socialist nemesis. Not only has he killed an incredible amount of them, but also in a verdict of diminished responsibility (which are tolerant socialist laws) he might not spend a single day in prison but only be in a mental hospital until he gets old enough. As I have several friends working school holidays in such an institution, I can assure you this is not really an "upgrade" for him. In a place like that you actually have less freedom than in a normal prison, as well as being heavily medicated to keep you in a "calm, collective state". | ||
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dangerjoe
Denmark1866 Posts
On July 23 2011 22:12 DeSam wrote: why is he left alone on a camp with kids and a gun? Read the thread. | ||
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Dr_Jones
Norway252 Posts
On July 23 2011 22:12 DeSam wrote: why is he left alone on a camp with kids and a gun? Seriously, read the OP, then have a gander at some news sites, then perhaps come back to this thread with some insightful comments. Google is your friend. | ||
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Maple Bass
22 Posts
On July 23 2011 22:01 HerroPreaseTN wrote: Of course it's of more help than slamming them of the forum, but how the fuck does that justify uploading the film on youtube for the whole world to see? Do you think the news stations were acting unethically when 9/11 scenes were being broadcasted within the hour of the event then? | ||
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