EPTDon't think they are out yet, it was live video. Someone is prolly transcribing as we speak.
[Old] The massacre in Norway - Page 114
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sidesprang
Norway1033 Posts
Don't think they are out yet, it was live video. Someone is prolly transcribing as we speak. | ||
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1ManArmy
Netherlands895 Posts
Was he granted permission? what kind of uniform is it? | ||
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
On July 25 2011 21:51 zeru wrote: The biggest serial killer in scandinavia killed 138 people and was released after 21 years and considered rehabilitated. where did you get the 138 number from? The wikipedia article says 22. | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On July 25 2011 22:19 Sfydjklm wrote: First of all there are no specifically designed tests to gauge beliefs. That's just silly. Secondary psychological tests rely on accessing patients subconscious reactions and basic knee jerk reactions. Both of which is pretty hard if the patient knows the way test goes. Surely it's an unlikely scenario for Breivik to be an evil genius that can beat the system but i am of the opinion that why risk it. And also your faith in "experts" is unfounded. US market was run by "experts." Chernobyl, Fukushima were handled by "experts" post crisis. Seriously, you watch too many movies. There will be no 'tests', rehabilitation is a progress over a very long time(in this case 21 years) closely monitored by neurologists, psychologists and god-knows-what-ists. Certain tests might occur during the period but only to complement the results from years and years of talks and observation. When they're done with him they'll know what he thinks before he does. That you speak of tests he may or may not beat just show that you don't understand the Scandinavian penal system. | ||
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sidesprang
Norway1033 Posts
On July 25 2011 22:42 1ManArmy wrote: He requested to appear in court wearing some sort of uniform. Anything known about this? Was he granted permission? what kind of uniform is it? He did, he was not granted permission. It was some sort of temple knight uniform that "his order" are supposed to have. I think it's described in the manifest. | ||
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BasedSwag
Algeria418 Posts
1441: Judge said the prosecution had requested complete isolation due to the risk of loss of evidence and because of the "extent and the character" of this case. So Mr Breivik will be in complete isolation until 22 August, meaning he will not be able to receive letters or visits, or use media. 1437: Judge: Police to investigate Mr Breivik's claim that there are two more cells in his organisation. 1435: Mr Breivik quoted by judge: Norwegian Labour Party was guilty of "mass import" of Muslims. 1432: Mr Breivik quoted by judge: Labour Party had to pay price of treason, Muslims were out to colonise the country. 1431: Judge says Mr Breivik said he wanted to send out a "sharp signal", accused ruling Labour Party of failing Norway. 1430: Judge continues: Mr Breivik has not pleaded guilty, argued he wanted to save Norway and western Europe from "cultural Marxism". 1428: Judge clarifies: Mr Breivik remanded in custody for eight weeks, four of them in complete isolation. From the BBC. | ||
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DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
Wow. Did you even read anything about him? He's against National Socialism, and is pro-Israel. He's pro-Israel is because he thinks Israel is anti-Muslim. He's also against National Socialism while talking just like a National Socialist except he's replaced "Jews" with "Muslims." Well okay you can believe whatever you want. Wow is right. | ||
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
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Neeh
Norway458 Posts
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Eurekastreet
1308 Posts
On July 25 2011 22:42 1ManArmy wrote: He requested to appear in court wearing some sort of uniform. Anything known about this? Was he granted permission? what kind of uniform is it? http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4183090.ece link Didn't wear a uniform when he was in the car so I doubt he could change in between. A journalist just asked the official, he said he personally didn't see him but the judge didn't allow for uniform in the court....so, no. Anyway, I like what they're doing, isolating him for the coming weeks, not showing him at all. The faster his sorry face is forgotten and the less we hear of him in the future, the better. Let him start getting bored to death in his cell as soon as possible. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 25 2011 22:43 Quotidian wrote: where did you get the 138 number from? The wikipedia article says 22. He was charged for 22 murders, he confessed 138. Some of the murders were too long ago to confirm the deathcause. Almost always the suspects are charged for less murders than they actually did because those are the ones they can prove 100%. That's all in the article, so you should try reading it more carefully | ||
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1ManArmy
Netherlands895 Posts
On July 25 2011 22:48 Neeh wrote: From the pictures taken while he was in the car, he wasn't wearing anything special. He might have changed his outfit in the courthouse? | ||
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Zalitara
Norway361 Posts
On July 25 2011 22:50 1ManArmy wrote: Doubt it, the judge denied his request.He might have changed his outfit in the courthouse? | ||
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Calm
Canada380 Posts
On July 25 2011 22:39 sidesprang wrote: custody with full isolation to 22. august regular custody up to 26.september Ban from letters, visitors, news and any other media for the whole time. If I got it correcty I'm not sure if anyone is a lawyer in Norway, but trials can take up to a year to start. Does that mean that the accused could be walking the streets again before his trial begins? | ||
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On July 25 2011 22:50 1ManArmy wrote: He might have changed his outfit in the courthouse? No he was only allowed to wear clothes given to him by the police afaik. | ||
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Eurekastreet
1308 Posts
It's probably silly but that makes me glad. Making that request means he probably believed they would give him any slack after what he did, just another sign of how delusional he must be. I hope the judge denial came as a slap in the face. | ||
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
On July 25 2011 19:56 zYwi3c wrote: ah ok. On TV in Poland, some ppl said, that he will be there only for 21 years, and was kinda angry of that statement :[ Whenever you hear something in the media, you should check it up before believing it. I thought that was something everybody did. Don't be naive. | ||
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
On July 25 2011 22:50 Shikyo wrote: He was charged for 22 murders, he confessed 138. Some of the murders were too long ago to confirm the deathcause. Almost always the suspects are charged for less murders than they actually did because those are the ones they can prove 100%. That's all in the article, so you should try reading it more carefully I read the norwegian entry which said nothing about 138 killed. He was tried and convicted for 22 murders, with a suspected 27 murders total. Serial killers very often inflate the number they have killed for various reasons, true or not, and people fascinated by the "mythos" of serial killers propagate this number until it becomes "fact" in things like wikipedia articles. A person can only be tried, convicted and sentenced according to known facts. We have a lot more facts about Breivik than we ever had about Arnfinn Nesset, and he will be tried accordingly. | ||
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Eurekastreet
1308 Posts
On July 25 2011 22:54 Longshank wrote: No he was only allowed to wear clothes given to him by the police afaik. http://www.lesoir.be/zc/vignettes475x300/mediastore/_2011/juillet/du_11_au_20/Breivik1.jpg Looks like a lacoste logo and a polo shirt. The "city clothes" he used to wear if I recall his diary correctly. Wouldn't have given him even that. | ||
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Sandermatt
Switzerland1365 Posts
On July 25 2011 22:47 -Archangel- wrote: Although personally I am against a death sentence, in the case of people like this guy I would make an exception. Actually death would be too easy, maybe some waterboarding each day until the rest of his life would suit him better. And a solitary for the rest of the time. And maybe some flaying Bolton style. What would this achieve, satisfy some revenge instincts? I can understand the desire for it still acting barbarian yourself will not undo what he did. What he did cannot be undone. Just lock him away so that he isn't a danger to anyone anymore. | ||
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