1) Why do you care what society thinks of your choices? As a person, you're endowed with the right to make all of the fundamental decisions about your personal standards and behaviors. So why should we have notes on your preference here?
2) To my knowledge, nobody I know talks about sex all the time or rates people based on the number of times they've done it. What experiences do you have where you feel like,you cant keep away from the sex talk?
I don't think it really matters whether you've had sex or not. Certainly it doesn't matter what someone else thinks if you are a virgin or not a virgin.
I think sex is great, some of the better moments of my life have been had whilst having sex.
Sex is fun, it feels good, it feels natural, it feeels fulfilling... but is it necessary? I don't think so.
Honestly, I'm a point in my life where my longing isn't as much for sex, but for a meaningful relationship that is felt on both sides of the equation. I've had stints where I am totally into her, and she is totally into me... but never (not since junior high.... but she moved half way across the country after two years commited to one another) recently where we both are totally feeling one another.
So, no I don't really think Sex is overpowered. But I also didn't think Fungal growth, and used that almost as much. I guess my point is, relationships are much more important than sex, and as much as sex is fun, it isn't really what matters.
Although, GOOD sex can just change your whole perspective of the world... I dunno, maybe sex is OP.
1.) Sorry m8 but it IS the most important thing existing! You may ask: "Huh why´s that? ... There are so many other things more important like world peace, encounter new challenges etc pp" Well the answer is simple: Nothing of these things matter if no one is able to enjoy them because there are no more people. Low/negative birth/death ratios are (imho) the most threatening thing for the western economies
2.) not so serious point: matey, let me tell you one thing: once you tried it ... you know!
3.) Christ it´s the internet m8^^ ... Post likes yours indicate (as stated before) that the author is most likly saying: "Why everbody except me?????"
society is stupid , thats just how it is, alot of times the masses are easy manipulated just as in this case,
one of the first posts was that i ( yes im almost 20 and virgin ) was either ugly, bad whit women or gay, and im neither of those (just your average guy >.>), im just not actively seeking it because i have other prioritys right now, i got problems i need to take care of and it just hasnt happend for me, why do i need to have sex now?
but the same problem is there on alot of fields, for example: oww you play video games for a living... Nerd, loser,, i bet thats what most people would say (outside of tl) but really is that so wrong?
Ps to the guy that said people are either ugly, bad whit women or gay,,, you probaly watch to much jersey shore,,,
On August 31 2011 16:12 InTheCloudss wrote: society is stupid , thats just how it is, alot of times the masses are easy manipulated just as in this case,
one of the first posts was that i ( yes im almost 20 and virgin ) was either ugly, bad whit women or gay, and im neither of those (just your average guy >.>), im just not actively seeking it because i have other prioritys right now, i got problems i need to take care of and it just hasnt happend for me, why do i need to have sex now?
but the same problem is there on alot of fields, for example: oww you play video games for a living... Nerd, loser,, i bet thats what most people would say (outside of tl) but really is that so wrong?
Ps to the guy that said people are either ugly, bad whit women or gay,,, you probaly watch to much jersey shore,,,
First time Ive felt in a while that someone actually knows what they are talking about. (among this thread at least). lol
Most chicks, actually people want to be 'cool' and by achieving that they go clubbing, etc. I am 'good' looking and could excel somewhat easily in that environment. But personally I just dont like that atmosphere, Id rather talk with people in a intellectual form. Not to mention dealing with drunk peope. sigh. But actually learn something instead of shit just flying out my mouth.
Therefore, I read a lot of books and play video games and I am not considered 'cool' by the 'cool' people. But Id rather be the 'smartest' person in the world than the 'coolest'. I know that one day I will really find a girl that I will really like. Not picking some chick up from the bar/club that doesnt really have a mind just to have sex. Hell, if I really wanted sex that bad Id just go get a hooker, basically the same thing anyways.
Its not that having sex at an early age is bad or good. Its just that if you are 21 and have no experience in this field, your lack confidence will most likely protect your ego, thus keeping you from the necessary trial and error to build further competency in dealing with women. As a result, decreasing the probability of eventually finding a mate with good genetics to carry your future offspring, thus leading natural selection to favor someone else.
On August 31 2011 16:12 InTheCloudss wrote: society is stupid , thats just how it is, alot of times the masses are easy manipulated just as in this case,
one of the first posts was that i ( yes im almost 20 and virgin ) was either ugly, bad whit women or gay, and im neither of those (just your average guy >.>), im just not actively seeking it because i have other prioritys right now, i got problems i need to take care of and it just hasnt happend for me, why do i need to have sex now?
but the same problem is there on alot of fields, for example: oww you play video games for a living... Nerd, loser,, i bet thats what most people would say (outside of tl) but really is that so wrong?
Ps to the guy that said people are either ugly, bad whit women or gay,,, you probaly watch to much jersey shore,,,
First time Ive felt in a while that someone actually knows what they are talking about. (among this thread at least). lol
Most chicks, actually people want to be 'cool' and by achieving that they go clubbing, etc. I am 'good' looking and could excel somewhat easily in that environment. But personally I just dont like that atmosphere, Id rather talk with people in a intellectual form. Not to mention dealing with drunk peope. sigh. But actually learn something instead of shit just flying out my mouth.
Therefore, I read a lot of books and play video games and I am not considered 'cool' by the 'cool' people. But Id rather be the 'smartest' person in the world than the 'coolest'. I know that one day I will really find a girl that I will really like. Not picking some chick up from the bar/club that doesnt really have a mind just to have sex. Hell, if I really wanted sex that bad Id just go get a hooker, basically the same thing anyways.
yeah thats exactly what i meant,,, most of the time people are just not thinking for themself and instead only want to be 'cool', they steal because its cool, start random fights, pick on kids in school, heck your hole school life is about being cool nowadays,, and sex is just one of them cool just doesnt sound so cool to me anymore, il just go enjoy my tea, books and video games, and generally do what i want to do,,
On July 22 2011 11:38 heroyi wrote: "Why is everything about sex?" -40 year old virgin
what this has to do in a SC2 site is beyond me, but...
Everything is about sex because humanbeings are turning into animals were the primal needs are starting to take over. Only 50 years ago, sex was something private, beautiful and something one was ashamed of talking about only to be strictly between the two who made love. Nowadays, you see sex or sexiness / half naked women anywhere you look.
Since I was a small boy, I have been considered sort of a "ladies man", and as a civilized person I don't speak about what happens between two of the opposite sex beyond closed doors. And women themselves do not like this sex-revolution because women are looking for way more from a relationship than just sex, I guarantee you that. It's man who is degenerate.
The worst thing a woman knows is when you reduce her only to a sex-tool, rather than seeing the beautiful, humble, helpful and loving person she is. Thats why many guys sort of "fail" with women, and others are successful.
Man moves toward that which some scientists (Darwin) claim man originates from: monkeys.
Civilized behaviour decreases over time. Animalistic behaviour increases.
On July 22 2011 11:38 heroyi wrote: "Why is everything about sex?" -40 year old virgin
what this has to do in a SC2 site is beyond me, but...
Everything is about sex because humanbeings are turning into animals were the primal needs are starting to take over. Only 50 years ago, sex was something private, beautiful and something one was ashamed of talking about only to be strictly between the two who made love. Nowadays, you see sex or sexiness / half naked women anywhere you look.
Since I was a small boy, I have been considered sort of a "ladies man", and as a civilized person I don't speak about what happens between two of the opposite sex beyond closed doors. And women themselves do not like this sex-revolution because women are looking for way more from a relationship than just sex, I guarantee you that. It's man who is degenerate.
The worst thing a woman knows is when you reduce her only to a sex-tool, rather than seeing the beautiful, humble, helpful and loving person she is. Thats why many guys sort of "fail" with women, and others are successful.
Man moves toward that which some scientists (Darwin) claim man originates from: monkeys.
Civilized behaviour decreases over time. Animalistic behaviour increases.
FYI, we never originated from monkeys. We shared a common primate ancestor with monkeys. Big difference in the distinction there. And its not "some" scientists. Its 97% across the globe.
Take a look, its in a book, reading rainbow!
Oh, btw, last time I checked the taxonomy table, humans are animals.
Kingdom: Animalia Phylum: Chordata Class: Mammalia Order: Primates Family: Hominidae Tribe: Hominini Genus: Homo Species: H. sapiens
On July 22 2011 11:38 heroyi wrote: "Why is everything about sex?" -40 year old virgin
what this has to do in a SC2 site is beyond me, but...
Everything is about sex because humanbeings are turning into animals were the primal needs are starting to take over. Only 50 years ago, sex was something private, beautiful and something one was ashamed of talking about only to be strictly between the two who made love. Nowadays, you see sex or sexiness / half naked women anywhere you look.
Since I was a small boy, I have been considered sort of a "ladies man", and as a civilized person I don't speak about what happens between two of the opposite sex beyond closed doors. And women themselves do not like this sex-revolution because women are looking for way more from a relationship than just sex, I guarantee you that. It's man who is degenerate.
The worst thing a woman knows is when you reduce her only to a sex-tool, rather than seeing the beautiful, humble, helpful and loving person she is. Thats why many guys sort of "fail" with women, and others are successful.
Man moves toward that which some scientists (Darwin) claim man originates from: monkeys.
Civilized behaviour decreases over time. Animalistic behaviour increases.
FYI, we never originated from monkeys. We shared a common primate ancestor with monkeys. Big difference. Its in a biology, book, look it up. And its not "some" scientists. Its 97% across the globe.
Scientists just as myself do not necessary have to agree with a theory when discussing it, thats the product of a college education - agree to disagree, whilst uneducated people think that scientific theories are "true" or "false", trying to discuss theories (which do many many times completely contradict eachother) with political arguing of the likes of Democrats -vs- Republicans. I don't agree with Darwin at all, I reject all levels of human association to monkeys, neanderthals or the like, but that is nevertheless what Darwin and many evolutionists do believe happened.
One book is often the result of studies done from one or a few scientists (in academia, usually between 2-5 scientists). And there are thousands of scientists out there who may have completely different views of the reality, so posting a book to proove a point is this kind of political reasoning I spoke about "what I say is true, looooook there is a book that agrees to what I say".
examples of Darwin critics calling "evolutionism" a metaphysical myth and what not. Louis Agassiz Wolfgang Smith Michael Denton Pierre Paul Grasse
On July 22 2011 11:38 heroyi wrote: "Why is everything about sex?" -40 year old virgin
what this has to do in a SC2 site is beyond me, but...
Everything is about sex because humanbeings are turning into animals were the primal needs are starting to take over. Only 50 years ago, sex was something private, beautiful and something one was ashamed of talking about only to be strictly between the two who made love. Nowadays, you see sex or sexiness / half naked women anywhere you look.
Since I was a small boy, I have been considered sort of a "ladies man", and as a civilized person I don't speak about what happens between two of the opposite sex beyond closed doors. And women themselves do not like this sex-revolution because women are looking for way more from a relationship than just sex, I guarantee you that. It's man who is degenerate.
The worst thing a woman knows is when you reduce her only to a sex-tool, rather than seeing the beautiful, humble, helpful and loving person she is. Thats why many guys sort of "fail" with women, and others are successful.
Man moves toward that which some scientists (Darwin) claim man originates from: monkeys.
Civilized behaviour decreases over time. Animalistic behaviour increases.
FYI, we never originated from monkeys. We shared a common primate ancestor with monkeys. Big difference. Its in a biology, book, look it up. And its not "some" scientists. Its 97% across the globe.
Scientists just as myself do not necessary have to agree with a theory when discussing it, thats the product of a college education - agree to disagree, whilst uneducated people think that scientific theories are "true" or "false", trying to discuss theories (which do many many times completely contradict eachother) with political arguing of the likes of Democrats -vs- Republicans. I don't agree with Darwin at all, I reject all levels of human association to monkeys, neanderthals or the like, but that is nevertheless what Darwin and many evolutionists do believe happened.
sigh,, evolution is nowadays considered the standerd just as general relativity, it is not a fact but it is by far the best theory we have including creationism,, your are free to disagree and encouraged to think of other theory's or put it to the test. now lets not get off topic,,
On July 22 2011 11:38 heroyi wrote: "Why is everything about sex?" -40 year old virgin
what this has to do in a SC2 site is beyond me, but...
Everything is about sex because humanbeings are turning into animals were the primal needs are starting to take over. Only 50 years ago, sex was something private, beautiful and something one was ashamed of talking about only to be strictly between the two who made love. Nowadays, you see sex or sexiness / half naked women anywhere you look.
Since I was a small boy, I have been considered sort of a "ladies man", and as a civilized person I don't speak about what happens between two of the opposite sex beyond closed doors. And women themselves do not like this sex-revolution because women are looking for way more from a relationship than just sex, I guarantee you that. It's man who is degenerate.
The worst thing a woman knows is when you reduce her only to a sex-tool, rather than seeing the beautiful, humble, helpful and loving person she is. Thats why many guys sort of "fail" with women, and others are successful.
Man moves toward that which some scientists (Darwin) claim man originates from: monkeys.
Civilized behaviour decreases over time. Animalistic behaviour increases.
FYI, we never originated from monkeys. We shared a common primate ancestor with monkeys. Big difference. Its in a biology, book, look it up. And its not "some" scientists. Its 97% across the globe.
Scientists just as myself do not necessary have to agree with a theory when discussing it, thats the product of a college education - agree to disagree, whilst uneducated people think that scientific theories are "true" or "false", trying to discuss theories (which do many many times completely contradict eachother) with political arguing of the likes of Democrats -vs- Republicans. I don't agree with Darwin at all, I reject all levels of human association to monkeys, neanderthals or the like, but that is nevertheless what Darwin and many evolutionists do believe happened.
Definition of "Scientific Theory" != "Regular Theory"
Yes, evolution is a scientific theory. But so is the Theory of Gravity, and Atomic Theory. They are all theories. Theory in the scientific terms is stronger than a fact because it is supported by thousands of facts. You cant prove gravity exists because its not tangible, but a predictor equation like: is pretty hard to refute.
Nylon eating bacteria = evolution (nylon is a man invented synthetic material) AIDS = evolution of virus from primates to humans Different color skin from humans = evolution
The best thing creationists came up with irreducible complexity from bacteria flagellum and that was refuted.
On July 22 2011 11:42 ClysmiC wrote: I've always had the following view on sex: Save it till you meet your wife and it will be a million times more satisfying than it would be just hooking up with some random girls.
I think the point of this thread might have fallen between the cracks of some of the discussion taking place here.
The word I focus on the most in the title is "Society." We all know sex is fun (porn) and its important (reproduction), but the idea about looking at it in a social context brings up a different issue. I guess how I read the question is: Is sex too important in today's society? Important might be a bad word but I have a horrible vocabulary and if I think of the right word I'll change it.
What I think about with this question is more along the lines of how young adults are acting towards sex. I choose young adults for 2 reasons: 1. I'm one of them, I'm 19, and 2. They're the "next" generation as I see it (I kind of see the world as children [0-17], young adults [18~25], older adults [25~65], and seniors [65+]), so soon the young adults will be the main force in the workforce, voting more, and generally running the world. That might be a gross oversimplification of how the world works, but its how I've recently started seeing the world.
Anyway, the way I've noticed young adults treating sex as of late is scary to me. It seems like sex dominates people's minds in college (again, using college because I'm in college). I don't know how college was 30 years ago, and I don't know how it will be 30 years from now, but right now sex seems to be in everyone's top 3 priorities in college. I'm not saying this should change, but maybe the balance should shift a little (OP reference? eh, eh?). It seems like to the majority of students it goes: 1. Party, 2. Sex, 3. School, where 1 and 2 are interchangeable depending on what the person prefers. This isn't a bad list, I guess mine is similar, but the order and %'s involved frighten me. Of course I'm speculating here and I have no proof, but it seems like its a 40/40/20 split for these options.
Now this leads me back to my original idea of what the thread is asking. I say a 40/40/20 split with school taking the 20 is horrible for society. I would prefer to see something more to a 70/15/15 split with school in the number one spot. I think sex, and partying/drinking/drugs, are extremely OP in society. Sex and partying has become the main goal for most students.* This could be a problem, but since I cannot compare this to my experience with college 30 years ago, for obvious reasons, I have no idea how this will effect the world once my generation becomes the most powerful generation.
* = This is what I observe at my university (University of Arizona). Again, its just what it feels like to me. All my numbers are made up, none of my points can be proven, but I'm willing to argue any of them, or explain in more detail if need be.
Just live your life, and stop caring about what you are supposed to do to prove that you are a real whatever.
If you have your first girlfriend when you are 35, it's fine.
Sex is not over-rated, sex is not rated at all. Or rather it's rated by idiots. Sex is a part of what make us humans, it is the closest and the most intimate you can get to someone. It's not a game, and it's not entertainment. And seriously, stop worrying.
On August 31 2011 17:05 TerlocSG wrote: I think the point of this thread might have fallen between the cracks of some of the discussion taking place here.
The word I focus on the most in the title is "Society." We all know sex is fun (porn) and its important (reproduction), but the idea about looking at it in a social context brings up a different issue. I guess how I read the question is: Is sex too important in today's society? Important might be a bad word but I have a horrible vocabulary and if I think of the right word I'll change it.
What I think about with this question is more along the lines of how young adults are acting towards sex. I choose young adults for 2 reasons: 1. I'm one of them, I'm 19, and 2. They're the "next" generation as I see it (I kind of see the world as children [0-17], young adults [18~25], older adults [25~65], and seniors [65+]), so soon the young adults will be the main force in the workforce, voting more, and generally running the world. That might be a gross oversimplification of how the world works, but its how I've recently started seeing the world.
Anyway, the way I've noticed young adults treating sex as of late is scary to me. It seems like sex dominates people's minds in college (again, using college because I'm in college). I don't know how college was 30 years ago, and I don't know how it will be 30 years from now, but right now sex seems to be in everyone's top 3 priorities in college. I'm not saying this should change, but maybe the balance should shift a little (OP reference? eh, eh?). It seems like to the majority of students it goes: 1. Party, 2. Sex, 3. School, where 1 and 2 are interchangeable depending on what the person prefers. This isn't a bad list, I guess mine is similar, but the order and %'s involved frighten me. Of course I'm speculating here and I have no proof, but it seems like its a 40/40/20 split for these options.
Now this leads me back to my original idea of what the thread is asking. I say a 40/40/20 split with school taking the 20 is horrible for society. I would prefer to see something more to a 70/15/15 split with school in the number one spot. I think sex, and partying/drinking/drugs, are extremely OP in society. Sex and partying has become the main goal for most students.* This could be a problem, but since I cannot compare this to my experience with college 30 years ago, for obvious reasons, I have no idea how this will effect the world once my generation becomes the most powerful generation. .
I wish that 40/40/20 spit were true. The guys who place sex and party ahead of school are dumb. We all should be thankful that they are that dumb. There will be way less competition later on. "In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women." How do you make money without resorting to the way of Tony Montana? Be good at school.
Hell, if I really wanted sex that bad Id just go get a hooker, basically the same thing anyways. That statement is wrong in so many ways! Sex is not just about having sex for the sake of it, it's about emotions, lust, pleasure, attraction and passion. Going to a hooker certainly wont give those things. And who's to say you can't go to a bar, meet a girl, have a interesting conversation and then go home and have a good time ( he he ).
If people think that going to a bar and meeting a girl is all about having sex, then they either have a wrong view of it or they know the wrong people.
But then again with the society as it is today, many people will stupid and ignorant enough to go out with the sole purpose of "banging some chick". But fortunatly not all people are like that.
So what im saying, is that many people have sex for the wrong reasons, and therefore it might be somewhat misunderstood by many what sex is really about. So no sex is not OP, just misunderstood due to media and what not.
On August 31 2011 17:05 TerlocSG wrote: I think the point of this thread might have fallen between the cracks of some of the discussion taking place here.
The word I focus on the most in the title is "Society." We all know sex is fun (porn) and its important (reproduction), but the idea about looking at it in a social context brings up a different issue. I guess how I read the question is: Is sex too important in today's society? Important might be a bad word but I have a horrible vocabulary and if I think of the right word I'll change it.
What I think about with this question is more along the lines of how young adults are acting towards sex. I choose young adults for 2 reasons: 1. I'm one of them, I'm 19, and 2. They're the "next" generation as I see it (I kind of see the world as children [0-17], young adults [18~25], older adults [25~65], and seniors [65+]), so soon the young adults will be the main force in the workforce, voting more, and generally running the world. That might be a gross oversimplification of how the world works, but its how I've recently started seeing the world.
Anyway, the way I've noticed young adults treating sex as of late is scary to me. It seems like sex dominates people's minds in college (again, using college because I'm in college). I don't know how college was 30 years ago, and I don't know how it will be 30 years from now, but right now sex seems to be in everyone's top 3 priorities in college. I'm not saying this should change, but maybe the balance should shift a little (OP reference? eh, eh?). It seems like to the majority of students it goes: 1. Party, 2. Sex, 3. School, where 1 and 2 are interchangeable depending on what the person prefers. This isn't a bad list, I guess mine is similar, but the order and %'s involved frighten me. Of course I'm speculating here and I have no proof, but it seems like its a 40/40/20 split for these options.
Now this leads me back to my original idea of what the thread is asking. I say a 40/40/20 split with school taking the 20 is horrible for society. I would prefer to see something more to a 70/15/15 split with school in the number one spot. I think sex, and partying/drinking/drugs, are extremely OP in society. Sex and partying has become the main goal for most students.* This could be a problem, but since I cannot compare this to my experience with college 30 years ago, for obvious reasons, I have no idea how this will effect the world once my generation becomes the most powerful generation. .
I wish that 40/40/20 spit were true. The guys who place sex and party ahead of school are dumb. We all should be thankful that they are that dumb. There will be way less competition later on. "In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women." How do you make money without resorting to the way of Tony Montana? Be good at school.
Maybe its worse than 40/40/20, but I wouldn't say by much. There are still some requirements for college. Most frats have some level of academic standing that must be upheld. I will agree they don't want the 20 to be a 20, but I believe there is some effort that needs to be put in. And I agree, they are dumb, and that's why I'm scared. I don't know how college was 30 years ago, so I don't know if this is unique to our time, but if it is unique, and these dumb people are able to create a net to all support each other into the job market, it would be scary to see how fast America deteriorates.
I like your quote though, and I've heard it before, and have started living by it kind of. It's hard for me to look into the future and see things working out well (I'm just a pessimist, which I hate...). I hope you're right though, the dumb will fall out and the smart will succeed. My sample size is also very small, only my school and friends from high school that went to other in-state schools, so I don't know what the out look of America actually looks like. I really hope the number of people looking to make the world a better place is growing rather than dwindling.
I think everything before sex is better than the act itself.
But that is not the point of this thread, I know. The fact that society is hyping sex stems from the fact that it is not intstantly accessible to a lot of people at first, I guess. That makes it a hot item. For me, personally, sex is never a goal in itself. My relationship with my girlfriend, and having fun with her is the goal. Sex is just an option.
And to everyone that is a virgin for longer than they'd wish to be: Sex will make you just as happy as a kiss, only difference is it feels like masturbating. So stop focussing on having sex for the first time, and enjoy kisses and romance and all.
Dunno if I get called a pussy for this, and I really don't care. It's my reality and living my life with these convictions makes me feel great .