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Keanu i was wondering that myself. how can you be sure? of that i am clueless. Remember, we are under President Bush. And congress is also majority republican.
So yes, the ball will exist. But say the girl is kept at home as long as possible. she wont think anything of being loved. itll be normal. she wont experience pain, and there for wont appreciate the love she gets. when she finally goes out, itll hit her like a freight train. she wont appreciate the love she gets at home, because she will have taken it for granted, expecting it, but instead, she'll try to get over the overwhelming adversity she is faced with. and depending on a persons personality and strength, what will happen after that is up to her.
edit so many damn posts go by while i type. sigh. do you feel the same or is it just me?
if i was to have a gun pulled on me right now, i sure as hell would want to live because i still see life as worth living. but if i couldnt be comfortable being myself I.E. being disfigured, then it would cease to be worth living.
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thats disturbing i really feel bad for her and her parents
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god this is impossible to keep up with.
how do i think most people will react? I think people will feel the same as myself. People are shallow whether they like it or not. many people are very materealistic. Im definitely not the most guilty of that, either. there are people far more shallow than I. It would seem to me though that these people arent very likely to visit this site seeing as they dont play broodwar constantly. Polling i think would be a little biased given the field of voters? but its a good idea anyway.
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So yes, the ball will exist. But say the girl is kept at home as long as possible. she wont think anything of being loved. itll be normal. she wont experience pain, and there for wont appreciate the love she gets. when she finally goes out, itll hit her like a freight train. she wont appreciate the love she gets at home, because she will have taken it for granted, expecting it, but instead, she'll try to get over the overwhelming adversity she is faced with. and depending on a persons personality and strength, what will happen after that is up to her. this is an interesting thought and ive considered it before. If you love someone with the utmost of your capability, does it just become the default for them, if they have nothing to compare it to. And for some reason, im inclined to actually say no. It works for pain, anger, sadness, and everything else imo, but not for happiness. I think no matter what, we as people are designed from birth to understand the power of love. It is instinctual, not learned, and therefore someone will always enjoy and appreciate the act of being loved. They may not respond to it the same every day, but it still has a much value as the first time it was given.
I think either way she'll definately be hit by the freight train of pain once she gets a taste of the real world, which is impossible to avoid forever. But as most people ridiculed do, i think she'll survive it. Especially the longer its put off, i.e. teens. Nobody at 16 is gonna up and off themselves the moment they are treated poorly, they have too much experience of the opposite to live off of.
f i was to have a gun pulled on me right now, i sure as hell would want to live because i still see life as worth living. but if i couldnt be comfortable being myself I.E. being disfigured, then it would cease to be worth living. Thats fine. Its just imperative that it be put out of your heads that you need to make this decision for her. Whats so wrong with her killing herself at the right time once shes sick of it? Everyone who says they have the compassion to save her from feeling the pain in the first place doesnt have the compassion to ever treat her with an ounce of respect upon meeting her, i find this all very bizarre.
so many damn posts go by while i type. sigh. do you feel the same or is it just me? oh yea, bound to happen. I just get ready for the massive quoting so people know what im responding to. This is however my last post, i do need sleep afterall.
Out...
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i know i have no place whatsoever in saying she should die. however if she were my child i would feel guilty for putting her through the pain.
as for the actual girl, does she have a name btw? i wouldnt show her any disrespect, but at the same time no, i couldnt look at her. it would break my heart.
yeah i planned on going after reading your next post too.
thanks for the interesting conversation, honestly.
sorry to all those who may think "God why he have to post so god damn much." i realize its gotten a little excessive.
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moral of the story: dont do drugs when you're pregnant
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On December 15 2004 20:03 Gene wrote:
Keanu i was wondering that myself. how can you be sure? of that i am clueless. Remember, we are under President Bush. And congress is also majority republican.
So yes, the ball will exist. But say the girl is kept at home as long as possible. she wont think anything of being loved. itll be normal. she wont experience pain, and there for wont appreciate the love she gets. when she finally goes out, itll hit her like a freight train. she wont appreciate the love she gets at home, because she will have taken it for granted, expecting it, but instead, she'll try to get over the overwhelming adversity she is faced with. and depending on a persons personality and strength, what will happen after that is up to her.
edit so many damn posts go by while i type. sigh. do you feel the same or is it just me?
if i was to have a gun pulled on me right now, i sure as hell would want to live because i still see life as worth living. but if i couldnt be comfortable being myself I.E. being disfigured, then it would cease to be worth living.
oh no, im sure she'll get government funding, bush or no bush (though maybe the guy should have chosen no bush, since that would have avoided this situation all together...that was kinda mean). but even if there's a chance she doesnt, since being picked on at school (oh man) seems to be the biggest reason people have for killing her, are you sure you want to kill her because she MIGHT have to go a public school? how silly!
or is it that you think inevitably she would get picked on in the adult world? do you think grown adults are going to go call her jacked-up juliana and take her milk money? even though im technically an adult, i'd probably take her milk money, i doubt anyone else would. she's going to have a lot of support, and she's going to have a lot of friends because...believe it or not...humans are, for the most part, good.
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omg no no no no..............
I feel very sad about that.
Why such things have to happen....
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On December 15 2004 20:14 n00bsaibot wrote:Show nested quote +So yes, the ball will exist. But say the girl is kept at home as long as possible. she wont think anything of being loved. itll be normal. she wont experience pain, and there for wont appreciate the love she gets. when she finally goes out, itll hit her like a freight train. she wont appreciate the love she gets at home, because she will have taken it for granted, expecting it, but instead, she'll try to get over the overwhelming adversity she is faced with. and depending on a persons personality and strength, what will happen after that is up to her. this is an interesting thought and ive considered it before. If you love someone with the utmost of your capability, does it just become the default for them, if they have nothing to compare it to. And for some reason, im inclined to actually say no. It works for pain, anger, sadness, and everything else imo, but not for happiness. I think no matter what, we as people are designed from birth to understand the power of love. It is instinctual, not learned, and therefore someone will always enjoy and appreciate the act of being loved. They may not respond to it the same every day, but it still has a much value as the first time it was given. I think either way she'll definately be hit by the freight train of pain once she gets a taste of the real world, which is impossible to avoid forever. But as most people ridiculed do, i think she'll survive it. Especially the longer its put off, i.e. teens. Nobody at 16 is gonna up and off themselves the moment they are treated poorly, they have too much experience of the opposite to live off of. Show nested quote +f i was to have a gun pulled on me right now, i sure as hell would want to live because i still see life as worth living. but if i couldnt be comfortable being myself I.E. being disfigured, then it would cease to be worth living. Thats fine. Its just imperative that it be put out of your heads that you need to make this decision for her. Whats so wrong with her killing herself at the right time once shes sick of it? Everyone who says they have the compassion to save her from feeling the pain in the first place doesnt have the compassion to ever treat her with an ounce of respect upon meeting her, i find this all very bizarre. Show nested quote +so many damn posts go by while i type. sigh. do you feel the same or is it just me? oh yea, bound to happen. I just get ready for the massive quoting so people know what im responding to. This is however my last post, i do need sleep afterall. Out...
If you ever start a religion, let me be your first desciple. You've communicated concisely what most people struggle to comprehend.
On a different note, I do not feel like there is such a thing as compassion. There is sympathy based on guilt, but compassion undiluted by a heavy conscience is a rarity of today. Compassion involves empathy and the ability to walk in another's shoes. Empathy is sympathy are so alike, yet sympathy is almost fleeting and in most people also subjective. True empathic individuals are also more impartial so they feel the same way about everything whereas those who are merely sympathetic are driven by prejudices.
Most people cannot know what it is like to walk in another's shoes, an ability that is important to forge a relationship between people of very disparate backgrounds. There is no co-existence, no sharing or compassion. There is only assimilation, subversion, and alienation.
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On December 14 2004 11:20 Orome wrote:Have you ever made a good post here?
actually, i dont really remember him ever making a good post, thought it was obvious by now 
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i live in FL, surprised i havnt heard about this yet.
sad for the parents, more so for the kid.
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Yeah she might have a happy life and people loving her and true friends who talk with her with no response (because she cant talk) without feeling pity...
probably after that we can all ride our pink ponys on the rainbow to the soft clouds....
My god n00bsaibot, critizicing my english and intelligence for fucks sake, i speak more languages than you do and anyone that knows me is aware than im 10 times smarter than your entire family will ever be so stfu.
Attacking a person instead of the ideas is the first sign when someone who is frustrated and do not know how to refutate things, i could call you a sassy hipocrit christian but i didnt because i can do better than that... and also because the people that i want to hear that already know what you are.
returning to the discussion, having a perfect brain is the biggest problem if she would be retarded she probably wouldnt realize the cold hard reality, but she will be, and it doesnt matter how pink you wish the world would be, it will not be anything near to pink for her.
If i could kill that girl with no repercutions (jail) id gladly do it, same as sacrificing a dog with no legs, its human, its pathetic how people hide their fears and justify them in the most ridiculous way, i hope smart ppl realize how this people are hipocrits.
BTW drone say what you have to say, if saying something harsh makes you an asshole so be it, but don be someone you are not 
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Norway28707 Posts
it was just a joke which wouldve been funny but also very mean
and im not doing the whole "life goes on but not for her ROFL" deal in response to deaths anymore. (well, occasionally. )
actually I sorta regret not posting the joke now cause well
it wouldve been funny
but now I've built it up too much
so I'm not going to.
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That is so sad... That poor baby.. At least she has a loving and caring family that will always be there for her..
Wish her the best.
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wow... i've never seen anything like that before.. Kind of looks like the predator in the arnold movie.
but in all seriousness that sucks  good luck to her and her family.
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On December 16 2004 01:47 baal wrote:Yeah she might have a happy life and people loving her and true friends who talk with her with no response (because she cant talk) without feeling pity... probably after that we can all ride our pink ponys on the rainbow to the soft clouds.... My god n00bsaibot, critizicing my english and intelligence for fucks sake, i speak more languages than you do and anyone that knows me is aware than im 10 times smarter than your entire family will ever be so stfu. Attacking a person instead of the ideas is the first sign when someone who is frustrated and do not know how to refutate things, i could call you a sassy hipocrit christian but i didnt because i can do better than that... and also because the people that i want to hear that already know what you are. returning to the discussion, having a perfect brain is the biggest problem if she would be retarded she probably wouldnt realize the cold hard reality, but she will be, and it doesnt matter how pink you wish the world would be, it will not be anything near to pink for her. If i could kill that girl with no repercutions (jail) id gladly do it, same as sacrificing a dog with no legs, its human, its pathetic how people hide their fears and justify them in the most ridiculous way, i hope smart ppl realize how this people are hipocrits. BTW drone say what you have to say, if saying something harsh makes you an asshole so be it, but don be someone you are not See this is where your lack of experience in living and being an adult begins ( i bet the idea of sign language never even dawned upon you). You find this whole idea that she can actually enjoy some facets of life to be completely impossible. You base this on one thing only. Your short 14-18 years on this planet. For some reason you think that is enough to make you the authority on how the world works, how people treat each other, and whens a good time to die. Unfortunately i have lived on this earth for 22 years, and have a significant advantage on you when it comes to the reality of things, and i can say with certainty, that this person has a chance at life. And i can go on to name examples of people (basically anyone with an extreme deformation) to show that they lived, by choice, and are glad they are alive and not dead. You however can offer absolutely not one shred of anything whatsoever to the contrary, all you can do is pose hypothetical situations in which you guess someone might be uncomfortable enough to live, from your perspective. But when are you gonna get it through your head that your perspective is quite simply wrong?
From that conclusion, everything else you say on the matter is completely void. The reason i attack your person instead of your ideas, is because your ideas are so ridiculously absurd, and your mentality so disgracefully unacceptable, that i feel it is the only way to communicate with you. Now, you can either make a real case for yourself, or stfu. You want to sit there and say we're all living in a dream world of unicorns and rainbows, prove it. Show me how you can prove life is so miserable for a disabled person, that they'd be better off dead. If you cant in any way show this to be true other than "i say its true damnit!", then just go away, for you arent really part of this discussion, but rather an ignorant troll who cant stand being wrong.
And on that note, do you even consider the possibility that you could be wrong? This will be your ultimate sign of intelligence. But when you start sliding and dipping into the utter BULLSHIT zone, by saying you'd gladly kill her, i think its time we all put on our ignore mode, because face it baal, we both know you wouldn't do shit. Try as you might to lie to everyone else here, we know whats going on in your head, theres no point in saying these things, its like lying to god.
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feeling sry for her.
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