News: Local Family Has Daughter Born Without Face

On December 14 2004 10:05 s.taro wrote:
honestly why would you let her live, she is going to be living in pain for the rest of her life, say she's old enough to realize her own face how would she feel and all the surgeries she's going through.

On December 14 2004 09:54 (orky)oTTeR wrote:
Sweet.

On December 14 2004 10:21 Kobayashi wrote:


that's because the parents are selfish, they aren't considering her dauther's hapiness, they just don't want to feel guilty from killing their child

PS: yay,I'm gonna be flamed like there's no tomorrow

On December 14 2004 11:21 pirate cod wrote:
Kobayashi, that's because that was a stupid comment.

On December 14 2004 11:20 Orome wrote:


Have you ever made a good post here? Seriously, all the stupid remarks you made lately, first about korean penis size, now this, just fuck off.

On December 14 2004 14:33 SexyMedic wrote:
I'm not sure how the problem wasn't picked up on ultra sound, a reasonable guess would be a lack of prenatal care. This said, I don't think abortion was even an option. However, I don't know if a physical abnormality is really grounds for being put to death. Thousands of people live happy lives with terrible burns, scars and even mutations. Maybe this little girl can grow up to be happy too.

On December 14 2004 13:29 Tien wrote:
Its stupid because:

It's not that simple to just kill her.

First of all its illegal.
Second of all not everyone could bring themselves to murder an innocent child. Let alone their own.

On December 14 2004 10:21 Kobayashi wrote:


that's because the parents are selfish, they aren't considering her dauther's hapiness, they just don't want to feel guilty from killing their child

PS: yay,I'm gonna be flamed like there's no tomorrow

On December 14 2004 16:02 Kaotu wrote:
yes, lets kill anything that has a hard life! great plan!

thats why we should all take matters into our own hands when we become handicapped or disabled or something. suicide is a good plan. or just let your parents do it for you, even better.

you people are sick. You have no compassion. I hope someday you will have to look this girl in the face and tell her what you said about her as she was born. "Your parents should have killed you, you freak". Yes I am being a little over the top but your arguments are just ridiculous. Sit down and have a conversation with Hitler, you can probably learn more about your ideals from him.

and did this remind anyone else of that movie Vanilla Sky? I bet this girl will identify a lot with Tom in that movie when he loses his face. Or maybe not at all. In fact she will probably hate the movie as most did. But anyway...

On December 14 2004 15:52 n00bsaibot wrote:
babies born with no skin, or bones on the outside or something.. they usually just shrivel up and die in a few hours.

On December 14 2004 16:54 Hippopotamus wrote:


No, they're born with hard skin. *warning... disturbing pic* for those who wonder it looks like this. Notice the eyes are filled with blood, and the skin is cracked everywhere. What's worse is some bastards managed to keep one alive for 11 years.

Oh and I just figured out what the girl's face reminded me of, it reminded me of the stalker from Armies of Exigo.. (yes very insensitive, but that's what her face looks like)

On December 14 2004 16:52 Gene wrote:
yeah, cause committing suicide is the right answer. that wouldnt put the kid through even more mental anguish and maybe before she does that she'll drown in her own miseries.

i just saw the video, and to be completely insensitive but truthful her face looks nothing like human.

On December 14 2004 16:25 Kobayashi wrote:


I bet u like to see yourself as a kind, compassionate person... you're not. The point is not to kill a person, the point is to stop it before it becomes a suffering being.

On December 14 2004 17:28 Kaotu wrote:


yes, I'm really patting myself on the back over this one... Give me some credit, I'm awesome.

You are not in their shoes, you speak as someone who apparently doesn't have any friends who are disabled (blind, handicapped, or worse), which I have more than 1 of. This doesn't make me compassionate or kind, it makes me sensible. I am not an idiot enough to kill someone because I would find life hard in their shoes. Before they've experienced anything. Good call.

On December 14 2004 16:44 taeWook wrote:
theres a reason for everything. my guess is, the parents took drugs, or other harmful substances during their lifetime. nothing in a "normal" human being's dna would cause something like this to happen. its always something from the outside, something detrimental to human conception, that would allow this kind of event.

in any case, its very sad.

u don't know me, u don't know who my friends are and what I've seen people close to me experience. So, sorry but your point is inexistent.

On December 14 2004 17:50 Kaotu wrote:
and you know me, that I am uncompassionate and unkind?

you attack me with overgeneralized and unbacked statements in order to validate your point, and then defend yourself by saying I don't know you?

n/m, think what u want, this isn't a big deal

but once again I hope you can one day have a conversation with this girl and tell her what you're telling us.

On December 14 2004 17:55 n00bsaibot wrote:
Its only nonexistent if hes wrong. Is he?

On December 14 2004 19:15 Eniram wrote:
Man, she's probably gonna go through a real tough life. Damn those horrible parents for not having an abortion.

On December 15 2004 08:26 VdP]TwistedEcho wrote:


wow, i do wonder how people can write something like this, i guess they haven't experienced anything similar, and the fact most people on this board are in their teens makes it harder to look at the bigger picture.

On December 15 2004 14:17 Vharox wrote:
I don't understand people who say "OMGZ LOZL SHE SHOULDA ABORTED~~ +_+".You guys resemble Hitler O; .... I mean do yall think all retarded/defected people should be killed? They are picked on everyday aren't they? For example, everyone that was born paralyzed should be executed b/c they will be made fun of b/c they can't play sports! that's so miserable!!!!!! Do you only think people with no defects should be able to live? If so you are such a fucking Nazi >_>

On December 15 2004 14:34 Gene wrote:
theres a rather distinguished line between being a little slow and having downs syndrome, and looking like an absolute freak of nature.

"30% chance my brother would have mental dissabilities" i woudlnt abort either. Its only a thirty percent chance. and its only a mental dissability, in society thats not a condemnation. that however, 80% of the people in this world would cringe upon seeing, myself included.

if i woke up one day and looked like that, i would shoot myself. not a single doubt about it.

On December 15 2004 15:49 b(O.o)p wrote:
i don't see why his (Kobayashi) comment was stupid either....the life this young girl has to live will be more like hell....believe me, kids are terrible at school and with THIS girl ... come on just figure out for yourself....jesus.

On December 15 2004 16:11 tree wrote:
no offense, their is no way this girl is ever going to live a normal life. plain and simple, i feel horrible for her too

On December 15 2004 16:26 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
YEP HAVING NO FACE IS DEFINITELY AN ADVANTAGE

On December 15 2004 16:31 baal wrote:
btw i wasnt joking i just found a good oportunity to mock believers, i dont know how they justify a girl having no face other than a sick bastard god, who likes to test people even when he already knew the outcome.

I honestly believe that baby should be put to death while se was born, did you see the video?, she is not only a monster that ofcourse will scare anyone and will be a mockery if she ever manages to go to school, but she has to breath helped by a tube, also she is eats DIRECTLY FROM HER STOMACH!...

Yeah i guess that girl is going to go to the mall with her fancy friends and when they decide to grab a bite it will be awesome when she pops out her feeding tube and ask her friends to chew her Chob-Suey and spit it in the tube!.

Why force this creature to taste such a bitterness that not many people in this world know only because you think she has a right to live, parents are suppoused to know what is better for their sons, and its their place to save their child an inmense suffering with no end, that girl will never taste happiness while she is aware she is an abomination.

Why force this creature to taste such a bitterness that not many people in this world know only because you think she has a right to live, parents are suppoused to know what is better for their sons, and its their place to save their child an inmense suffering with no end, that girl will never taste happiness while she is aware she is an abomination.

On December 15 2004 15:38 n00bsaibot wrote:
well good then, obviously you have nothing better to offer this world than your dashing good looks. If you havent noticed, theres a number of us here who have no problem with her at all. So why is your opinion the only valid one?

On December 15 2004 16:48 n00bsaibot wrote:
Why force her to live your definition of happiness?

On December 15 2004 17:30 Element)LoGiC wrote:
Her face is like an asshole sifter, meaning that only those truly capable of loving will bother with her.

She will grow up to either a very nice or very bitter person, depending on how she reacts to getting ridiculed inevitably by younger children.

I think she will get a lot more out of life than most of us could comprehend...

Or less.

Good luck anyway, I think this is quite sad.

On December 15 2004 16:31 baal wrote:
btw i wasnt joking i just found a good oportunity to mock believers, i dont know how they justify a girl having no face other than a sick bastard god, who likes to test people even when he already knew the outcome.

I honestly believe that baby should be put to death while se was born, did you see the video?, she is not only a monster that ofcourse will scare anyone and will be a mockery if she ever manages to go to school, but she has to breath helped by a tube, also she is eats DIRECTLY FROM HER STOMACH!...

Yeah i guess that girl is going to go to the mall with her fancy friends and when they decide to grab a bite it will be awesome when she pops out her feeding tube and ask her friends to chew her Chob-Suey and spit it in the tube!.

Why force this creature to taste such a bitterness that not many people in this world know only because you think she has a right to live, parents are suppoused to know what is better for their sons, and its their place to save their child an inmense suffering with no end, that girl will never taste happiness while she is aware she is an abomination.

On December 15 2004 17:29 baal wrote:


Lets recapitulate, she has no face!, she has faced 14 cirugies and she will have a lot more with paintful recoveries, she has to eat directly from her stomach, she needs a tube to help her breath, she is so horrible that people will avoid even looking at her, her own parents cry her tragedy, if you think this girl has any chance to fit in anyones happiness description you have issues to face reality.

If a dog looses his 4 legs an act of MERCY is to kill it, because he will suffer for the rest of his life, you save the poor creature such a pain, they didnt kill her daughter because they couldnt bare such a responsability and they were a couple of cowards and her daughter has to pay with such a pain their lack of balls, killing that girl is not malicious, but pure mercy.

On December 15 2004 18:58 Liquid`Drone wrote:
she can sit on the internet all day and play poker

oh my I wanted to be cruel now but I'm too nice
I almost wish this was 3-4 years ago so I'd be a big enough asshole to post what I almost feel like posting
and now I'm going to get pm's asking me what I was going to post
but no sirees.

On December 15 2004 19:14 Liquid`Drone wrote:
what, do you think I choose to not be an asshole because of what people will think of me?

I don't because being one isn't nice.

On December 15 2004 19:17 n00bsaibot wrote:
and im surprised this was only mentioned once, but RECONSTRUCTIVE SURGERY. There are constant breakthroughs in medical science. And there are plenty of people who look half way fucked up, but better than her, and lead fine lives. Even though they said she needs another 30 possible surgeries, that was by todays science and capabilities. Plus she can just wear a mask, sort of like Vanilla Sky, if you ever saw that. Those things are HIGHLY effective. People will at least be able to tolerate her presence in school, while she fills her mind with knowledge of the stars, or whatever her future passion may be. Hell, she could solve her own problem of surgical appearance, invent some new techniques, and help millions in the future, all due to her wanting to cure herself. And even then, it may only require 10 surgeries for her to be able to socialize with the majority of idiots out there. Not every ugly person in the world has a horrible life. If she can just get passed phase 1. Shes fucking 2 years old, theres no telling how she'll look in 10 years with or without surgery. Hell her natural aging process could fix a few things unexpectedly.

The ignorance level here is truely astonishing. I mean, why do i even bother. I know im talking to people under the age of 18, who have shit for life experience or real world practical knowledge. I just need to know if ive changed the mind of even one person slightly? Otherwise ill just assume the intelligence gap is too great, and they lack the proper synaptic connections in their little heads to comprehend the possibilities of anything i say. Much like your video card cant handle DX9 without the proper features being built into it, you cant understand common sense when it is above your reach.

On December 15 2004 19:15 Gene wrote:
you're right n00bsaibot. "stop dehumanizing -it-" good job.

btw im pretty sure Baal's first language wasnt english. Way to jump on understandable mistakes.

find people like you? people like you are as much a minority as black irishmen. Its a lot easier to say "Im understanding and i wont be cruel" over the internet than to actually come to terms with it in real life.

as for education, after going through the minimum of 40 - 45 surgeries, how much money do you think her family is going to have to send her to school? how will they afford anything but public education?

yes, because anyone not directly in line with you or heading in that direction lacks intelligence. spoken by a true genius.

yeah, you're scenario is pretty and all, but she has just the same probability of drowning in her misery. being made fun of. dwelling on it for all of her life. hating everyone in her world. hating living, being alive, and wishing she were dead. she could kill somebody else to release her feelings. she could do anything. i could come up with the most grim and illogical scenario just the same as you can draw your picture of perfect. but again, this world is not accepting of change.

I mean i could change my opinion and think your way but then again the pain and suffering shes going to go through is not something any human being should go through.

On December 15 2004 19:49 Gene wrote:
just to keep it simple, im not sure who said it
to feel love you must feel pain
to feel happiness you must feel sorrow


sorry i typed so much last post~

you dont think a disabled person has lost their mind, and killed people? out of all the millions of people in the world? do you really need me to find an example for you? go to that site to see the number of murders in the united states only. and you think they were all free from disability? that they were all cold blooded murders? that the only drive behind them was from their own insanity and not provoked by other people? seeing as theres such a thing as Voluntary Manslaughter, which in a sentence is "Being provoked or incited to kill by an action that would make an average man lose control." do you think disabled people werent taunted to the final straw?

hmm i dont know where this fits in for or against my arguement, but just so clear up, verbal taunts arent uh. "allowed" as an action to make oneself lose control.-- as per the law

On December 15 2004 19:15 Gene wrote:
you're right n00bsaibot. "stop dehumanizing -it-" good job.

btw im pretty sure Baal's first language wasnt english. Way to jump on understandable mistakes.

find people like you? people like you are as much a minority as black irishmen. Its a lot easier to say "Im understanding and i wont be cruel" over the internet than to actually come to terms with it in real life.

as for education, after going through the minimum of 40 - 45 surgeries, how much money do you think her family is going to have to send her to school? how will they afford anything but public education?

On December 15 2004 19:53 Gene wrote:
nope. kill me please. i for one am not strong enough as a person to not be able to go outside without being gawked at and made the center of attention. ive seen all of this world i want to. the only thing to hold me back from pulling the trigger are other people. in essense i live not for myself, but just to see certain people tomorrow. but when im terrible disfigured and have trouble getting around, i cant go see them and not feel uncomfortable. there is no reason for me to live.

On December 15 2004 19:57 Keanu_Reaver wrote:


they will get crazy government funding

So yes, the ball will exist. But say the girl is kept at home as long as possible. she wont think anything of being loved. itll be normal. she wont experience pain, and there for wont appreciate the love she gets. when she finally goes out, itll hit her like a freight train. she wont appreciate the love she gets at home, because she will have taken it for granted, expecting it, but instead, she'll try to get over the overwhelming adversity she is faced with. and depending on a persons personality and strength, what will happen after that is up to her.

f i was to have a gun pulled on me right now, i sure as hell would want to live because i still see life as worth living. but if i couldnt be comfortable being myself I.E. being disfigured, then it would cease to be worth living.

so many damn posts go by while i type. sigh. do you feel the same or is it just me?

On December 15 2004 20:03 Gene wrote:
Keanu i was wondering that myself. how can you be sure? of that i am clueless. Remember, we are under President Bush. And congress is also majority republican.

So yes, the ball will exist. But say the girl is kept at home as long as possible. she wont think anything of being loved. itll be normal. she wont experience pain, and there for wont appreciate the love she gets. when she finally goes out, itll hit her like a freight train. she wont appreciate the love she gets at home, because she will have taken it for granted, expecting it, but instead, she'll try to get over the overwhelming adversity she is faced with. and depending on a persons personality and strength, what will happen after that is up to her.



edit so many damn posts go by while i type. sigh. do you feel the same or is it just me?


if i was to have a gun pulled on me right now, i sure as hell would want to live because i still see life as worth living. but if i couldnt be comfortable being myself I.E. being disfigured, then it would cease to be worth living.

On December 15 2004 20:14 n00bsaibot wrote:
this is an interesting thought and ive considered it before. If you love someone with the utmost of your capability, does it just become the default for them, if they have nothing to compare it to. And for some reason, im inclined to actually say no. It works for pain, anger, sadness, and everything else imo, but not for happiness. I think no matter what, we as people are designed from birth to understand the power of love. It is instinctual, not learned, and therefore someone will always enjoy and appreciate the act of being loved. They may not respond to it the same every day, but it still has a much value as the first time it was given.

I think either way she'll definately be hit by the freight train of pain once she gets a taste of the real world, which is impossible to avoid forever. But as most people ridiculed do, i think she'll survive it. Especially the longer its put off, i.e. teens. Nobody at 16 is gonna up and off themselves the moment they are treated poorly, they have too much experience of the opposite to live off of.

Thats fine. Its just imperative that it be put out of your heads that you need to make this decision for her. Whats so wrong with her killing herself at the right time once shes sick of it? Everyone who says they have the compassion to save her from feeling the pain in the first place doesnt have the compassion to ever treat her with an ounce of respect upon meeting her, i find this all very bizarre.

oh yea, bound to happen. I just get ready for the massive quoting so people know what im responding to. This is however my last post, i do need sleep afterall.

Out...

yeah, you're scenario is pretty and all, but she has just the same probability of drowning in her misery. being made fun of. dwelling on it for all of her life. hating everyone in her world. hating living, being alive, and wishing she were dead. she could kill somebody else to release her feelings. she could do anything. i could come up with the most grim and illogical scenario just the same as you can draw your picture of perfect. but again, this world is not accepting of change.

On December 14 2004 11:20 Orome wrote:


Have you ever made a good post here?

On December 16 2004 01:47 baal wrote:
Yeah she might have a happy life and people loving her and true friends who talk with her with no response (because she cant talk) without feeling pity...

probably after that we can all ride our pink ponys on the rainbow to the soft clouds....


My god n00bsaibot, critizicing my english and intelligence for fucks sake, i speak more languages than you do and anyone that knows me is aware than im 10 times smarter than your entire family will ever be so stfu.

Attacking a person instead of the ideas is the first sign when someone who is frustrated and do not know how to refutate things, i could call you a sassy hipocrit christian but i didnt because i can do better than that... and also because the people that i want to hear that already know what you are.

returning to the discussion, having a perfect brain is the biggest problem if she would be retarded she probably wouldnt realize the cold hard reality, but she will be, and it doesnt matter how pink you wish the world would be, it will not be anything near to pink for her.

If i could kill that girl with no repercutions (jail) id gladly do it, same as sacrificing a dog with no legs, its human, its pathetic how people hide their fears and justify them in the most ridiculous way, i hope smart ppl realize how this people are hipocrits.



BTW drone say what you have to say, if saying something harsh makes you an asshole so be it, but don be someone you are not

On December 16 2004 12:14 TheGreenBeret wrote:
wow damn i thought noobsaibot was a good poster

On December 16 2004 09:38 n00bsaibot wrote:
See this is where your lack of experience in living and being an adult begins Your short 14-18 years on this planet. Unfortunately i have lived on this earth for 22 years, and have a significant advantage on you when it comes to the reality of things

On December 16 2004 15:32 baal wrote:


apparently he is not.

On December 16 2004 15:52 Servolisk wrote:


He is.

On December 15 2004 19:22 Gene wrote:


yes, because anyone not directly in line with you or heading in that direction lacks intelligence. spoken by a true genius.

yeah, you're scenario is pretty and all, but she has just the same probability of drowning in her misery. being made fun of. dwelling on it for all of her life. hating everyone in her world. hating living, being alive, and wishing she were dead. she could kill somebody else to release her feelings. she could do anything. i could come up with the most grim and illogical scenario just the same as you can draw your picture of perfect. but again, this world is not accepting of change.

On December 16 2004 21:37 Casper... wrote:
maybe she could climb a mountain
or maybe walk on water
or possibly cure lepers
please

no face

On December 16 2004 21:18 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:
I'd just like to note that Stephen Hawking lived a completely healthy life for a good while, he didn't become severely handicapped until well into his life and long after he found his passion. He should be disregarded because he found reason to live BEFORE he became what he is now.

I only believe that the truly mentally retarded, the ones who are basically vegetables, have no point to live. There are 2 boys at my school who can't walk, talk, listen, don't respond to anything you do. Basically all they do is drool all over themselves. I have even talked to their care takers and they agree the 2 boys really have no reason to live besides their parents would feel guilty. These are the ones who shouldn't be put through it.

This girl, though I highly doubt she will, CAN live a happy life. She would just need to be sheltered from society for a good portion of it.

and n00bsaibot, don't use things like "she could cure cancer" and shit like that. That just makes baal pull something equally as farfetched out of his ass. Be realistic. Siddhartha Gautama(aka Gautama Buddha) lived quite a happy life in solitude. You can even say she can find somebody and whatnot. Let's not claim she will do something that would make her the most influential person in the modern world, it makes the discussion more stupid than it already is.

On December 17 2004 00:23 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:
I never said she would be the next Siddhartha, I said Siddhartha gautama lead a happy life in solitude. I am not claiming she will revolutionize religion, I am claiming she can live a happy life in solitude if she goes about it properly.

It is quite realistic, a good number of people have done it *shrugs*.

On December 17 2004 12:30 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:
Buddha was outside almost his whole life. to be in solitutde does not mean to live inside your house o.O

On December 17 2004 20:27 n00bsaibot wrote:
she will still be choosing to live in solitude. She can join the public if she wants, nobody is gonna deport her to some private island because they cant stand looking at her. Not sayin its gonna be easy, but if she moves to my apartment complex, and becomes my neighbor, she'll have at least one person who wont hate her, and thus wont have to hide from everyone.

Teroru, please dont join this topic with comments like all fags are going to hell, you just aid the opposing sides argument by making it look like anyone with a rational thought is also an idiot. You see, you believe fags are going to hell, that makes you an idiot. I dont want an idiot aggreeing with me, it makes me look bad. Further more you obviously have this desire to let it be known you think this by bringing it up here of all places, and trying to disguise it as a simple example, when really youre probably just itching for a homophobic gay-bash romp on a friday night. Thanks though.

I also find it somewhat humorous that baal can blow up at me for claiming to know what goes on in his mind, yet he gets free reign to say exactly what goes through the mind of the person at hand.

On December 17 2004 20:16 Gene wrote:

chosen solitude is different from forced solitude.

teroru, have you ever seen Runaway Jury? it seems everyone on this forum has seen every movie ever. You never have, but in that post you reminded me of that police officer who kept going "ALL SHE WANTS IS A HANDOUT"

On December 17 2004 21:46 n00bsaibot wrote:
this is the internet you realise, and with an all text message, with no smilies, or italics present in the original post, and no previous history with you, its pretty easy to take someone for what they say. Had this conversation taken place in person, i doubt i would have slipped up the same way. Granted perhaps i should not have jumped on you so quickly after already admitting i didnt know you, but someone comes up in this thread using the terms niggers & fags, and i think its understandable how i got mixed up.

On December 17 2004 20:35 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:
Why would he want a gay bash? He is gay...

And biblically, all gays that act on their homosexual tendencies are going to hell.

Yup...

On December 17 2004 22:05 SickofLife wrote:


I haven't even read the whole thread, but, wow, what a distortion of the way things are now, according to the Bible. According to the Bible, homosexuality is no worse than me lying to you. If I lie, do I go to hell? Not necessarily. Just because they sin doesn't mean they are damned (though they probably are heathens [I've recently become fond of that word]) that doesn't mean every gay man, or woman is an unbeliever, and is doomed to hell.

On December 18 2004 01:07 wishterran wrote:
yeah it is pretty sad.

also... all heterosexuals should commit suicide? that is really stupid. also, i have many friends who are gay, so don't think i am just bashing you.

of course peoples likes and dislikes differ on everything, that does not mean anyone should commit suicide. anybody.

Hell, if i lived by your rules, i'd tell you to all commit suicide. It boggles the mind how any heterosexual cannot wish to end his life. You're fucking heterosexual. Might as well be born without a face. ;(

On December 17 2004 22:05 SickofLife wrote:


I haven't even read the whole thread, but, wow, what a distortion of the way things are now, according to the Bible. According to the Bible, homosexuality is no worse than me lying to you. If I lie, do I go to hell? Not necessarily. Just because they sin doesn't mean they are damned (though they probably are heathens [I've recently become fond of that word]) that doesn't mean every gay man, or woman is an unbeliever, and is doomed to hell.

But with people like baal posting in this thread, you are very right in understanding ur misunderstanding.

And the difference between sidharta and this girl its that this girl is "forced" to live in solitude, she can have a life through the internet as eri said and thats what will probably happen but death before she even has concience is a better choice imo, probably because i have a very different concept of death of most of you...

On December 18 2004 19:27 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
no offense but i don't evben look at a girl unless she sparks my fancy in a club for instance. mind you i have fucked up tastes but anything over 12 stone is goin to turn me off and i think it's a totally realistic viewpoint that less advantaged peoples are treated 'worse' than others. too bad but that's life i'm a fucking ugly little shit but i have an ounce of common sense and if someone's goodlooking (dont care about age - and this is a totally new discussion altogetjer) i'll fucking want to bone them no matter what they say and no matter how they act.

On December 18 2004 21:42 Teroru wrote:


Lucky for me, i share your view. I want to fuck at least 80% of bw players.

i bet ur included.

On December 18 2004 19:52 n00bsaibot wrote:
I dont feel like finding it, but were you not saying earlier that youd be perfectly happy even killing the girl now that shes alive and 2 years old? If all you ever meant was abortion, then i would probably aggree with you, as i support abortion in instances where children are born into unloving homes (i.e. kids having kids) for the same reasons you think this person will have a miserable life. Although the key there is the lack of love and desire for the child, at least this kid has parents who do actually want her, and a likely plethora of people who feel sorry for her, and whether or not its pity, will treat her kindly.

However, you continue to maintain this idea that she is forceably disallowed from participating in society. Explain this. What do you see happening when she walks out the front door and goes to the grocery store at age 33?

On December 19 2004 02:00 imRadu wrote:
baaal so you would take your own life if you had an accident that left you with no face?

On December 19 2004 06:58 n00bsaibot wrote:
Exactly imRadu. What if you were rich baal, and had lived a rich life, and already had friends, a wife, and even kids. Would you kill yourself then? You think your kids are gonna hate you? Stare, whisper, and snicker? Even your wife? I mean there is this thing called love out there, which for many people defies all boundaries. Maybe your wife would leave you, (although a real woman wouldnt), but your kids, you know theyll always love you. And you still have your money mansion and cars.

i would kill myself when suffering is all i have ahead.

On December 19 2004 03:17 baal wrote:


Ofcourse i do, i will do it without hessitation, i'd do it also if i had for example AIDS id live as far as the disease starts getting real ugly, or even terminal cancer, i would kill myself when suffering is all i have ahead.

On December 19 2004 15:56 Eniram wrote:


Wow, you're either a liar, or a really really weak person.