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TheGreenBeret
Profile Joined June 2004
United Kingdom548 Posts
December 16 2004 03:14 GMT
#141
wow damn i thought noobsaibot was a good poster
SCFraser
Profile Joined May 2003
Canada1534 Posts
December 16 2004 03:42 GMT
#142
imRadu is the funniest poster on tl.net

Sucks to be that girl or her parents...

life is hard enough as a 6 ft tall relatively attractive white male who does well in school and was born in the suburbs...

i cant imagine living the life some people live.
but theres always a way to make youself happy. its all in your head, figuratively and literally.
i think that if someone is smart enough they can figure out how to make themselves happy no matter what. happyness is a chemical thing anyway right..
I want something good to die for, to make it beautiful to live.
xCx
Profile Joined October 2004
Poland123 Posts
December 16 2004 04:21 GMT
#143
That is really sad...I would never want to have a baby without face and never want to not have face...
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
December 16 2004 05:57 GMT
#144
I can't believe so many people are narrow minded enough to believe that she can't possibly be happy.
wtf was that signature
Vashp2
Profile Joined November 2004
63 Posts
December 16 2004 06:10 GMT
#145
OMFG!!!
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
December 16 2004 06:32 GMT
#146
On December 16 2004 12:14 TheGreenBeret wrote:
wow damn i thought noobsaibot was a good poster


apparently he is not.
Im back, in pog form!
raidern_br
Profile Joined November 2002
Brazil612 Posts
December 16 2004 06:35 GMT
#147
thats a sad story.... i know a little boy (he is the son of the woman that worked at the house of my cousin) that doesnt have the upper part of his legs.... i mean his legs "starts" at his knees...

thats really sad, i hope she can get fixed or something...
i have a doubt, doenst she have eyes? even eye sockets??
Gogogo
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
December 16 2004 06:41 GMT
#148
On December 16 2004 09:38 n00bsaibot wrote:
See this is where your lack of experience in living and being an adult begins Your short 14-18 years on this planet. Unfortunately i have lived on this earth for 22 years, and have a significant advantage on you when it comes to the reality of things


WTF you idiot, stop pulling asumptions out of your ass!, im 21 so i guess now you will say "oh i assumed you were 14 because of your posts" lol pathetic, and im the one who cant consider being wrong... you ARE wrong in this and you will not admitt it, and if you do its only because im posting this omfg...

I just concluded that stupid people assume everything... you also assume that i wouldnt be capable of killing that girl because i think id save her suffering, ofcourse i would you idiot, stop thinking you know more about myself than I do!


I think the discussion with you is over, you just showed how deeply dumb you are, you ask me for proof of why the world will treat that girl bad?, you are asking me to prove that the world is not pink... lol how idiotic is that.

Oh and your remark about god at the end... wtf was that "its like lying to god" LMFAO!, you are one sad person.
Im back, in pog form!
n00bsaibot
Profile Joined November 2004
United States1070 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-16 06:46:55
December 16 2004 06:44 GMT
#149
i asked you to prove that she would feel so badly that she would be better off dead, not to prove that people might treat her poorly. Im not trying to throw a scenrio at you which is impossible to prove. There are many ways to prove this, such as by showing evidence that disabled people live poor lives, interviews, suicide rates, homicide rates, etc. And if you cant find any, then tell me under what circumstances you recall hearing of such information, because surely you must have picked it up from somewhere. Your entire argument isnt based around your sole opinion of how you ASSUME someone will feel is it? I know its a lot to ask, cuz that might not be the easiest information to gather, but are you telling me its there nontheless? Normally im willing to just take someones word, but im not sure what yours is yet. So far all you have done is given your opinion and claimed it to hold as strong as fact. So give me another opinion, do you think there are statistics which validate your claims? Because there sure as hell are statistics and information which validate mine. And if need be, i'll find some, but in yet another test of honesty, do you honestly believe thats necessary? Do you think what i claim (stats and information that disabled people can and most often do enjoy life) does not exist?
You fuck cows in retrospect
88)GuMMi
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden720 Posts
December 16 2004 06:46 GMT
#150
face... OFF!!

:S
Puppy powaa
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
December 16 2004 06:49 GMT
#151
Its not the same to not be able to walk and to have no freaking face...

So what % of people without face (considering she is the worse case of that syndrome) commits suicde errr... cant find it on google, btw you evaded my whole post.
Im back, in pog form!
Servolisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States5241 Posts
December 16 2004 06:52 GMT
#152
On December 16 2004 15:32 baal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2004 12:14 TheGreenBeret wrote:
wow damn i thought noobsaibot was a good poster


apparently he is not.


He is.
wtf was that signature
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
December 16 2004 06:56 GMT
#153
On December 16 2004 15:52 Servolisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2004 15:32 baal wrote:
On December 16 2004 12:14 TheGreenBeret wrote:
wow damn i thought noobsaibot was a good poster


apparently he is not.


He is.


what can an ex-U.R.S.S. lizard know...
Im back, in pog form!
n00bsaibot
Profile Joined November 2004
United States1070 Posts
December 16 2004 06:58 GMT
#154
from now on, when i use the term disabled, i am referring to any extreme case of disability. I.e. totaly paralysis, hideos scarring, large scale deformation (like the child), and so forth.

Not being able to walk is not the same as not having a face, ok.
Having no face is not the same as being covered in flaming thermite plasma.
You fuck cows in retrospect
n00bsaibot
Profile Joined November 2004
United States1070 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-16 07:01:34
December 16 2004 07:00 GMT
#155
Here, lets play a game, for each thing you name that she cannot do (and thus why her life is not worth living), i will name something of value she can do.

edit: and ill have to respond tommorrow because valve just released a new cs:s map, which i must now go play the shit out of.
You fuck cows in retrospect
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
December 16 2004 07:09 GMT
#156
that "game" is stupid, because ill say:

She CANT speak ------------- she CAN play barbies
She CANT eat ---------------- she CAN play Xbox...
She CANT go to school----- she CAN write a poem.


yeah that compensate what she cant do... way to go lol.
Im back, in pog form!
n00bsaibot
Profile Joined November 2004
United States1070 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-16 07:49:52
December 16 2004 07:47 GMT
#157
i said i would name something of value....

1) So she cant eat food through her mouth, yet
She could cure cancer

2) she CAN go to school.
She can also self-study and advance upon the teachings of einstein and steven hawking

3) Its not known whether or not she can speak, even though shes already making vocal noises, however
She can take up mountain climbing and explore new regions of the world

Wow, im really starting to feel sorry for you. You must live in a very blique(sp) world of total bordome if you honestly cant think of anything for her to do thats more fun than xbox or barbies.
You fuck cows in retrospect
0_0
Profile Joined April 2004
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-12-16 09:26:35
December 16 2004 09:20 GMT
#158
Wow, this is really sad . But I don't think anyone has the right to decide her fate other than herself. I mean, there are lots of disabled/handicapped people who have done things with there lives, Helen Keller, Stephen Hawking(n00bsaibot mentioned), etc. I mean, if she gets to be 30, and decides her life is pointless, then she can kill herself, but I guess its like being blind from birth, you can't miss what you've never had, none the less, this is very sad .

edit: I mean, think of Helen Keller, she was blind + deaf, with basically no way to communicate with the outter world, and she overcame that. Who is to say that this girl cannot overcome this, perhaps with proper lessons, surgery, or maybe new innovations in genetics, it will be possible.
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
December 16 2004 11:46 GMT
#159
On December 15 2004 19:22 Gene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2004 19:17 n00bsaibot wrote:
and im surprised this was only mentioned once, but RECONSTRUCTIVE SURGERY. There are constant breakthroughs in medical science. And there are plenty of people who look half way fucked up, but better than her, and lead fine lives. Even though they said she needs another 30 possible surgeries, that was by todays science and capabilities. Plus she can just wear a mask, sort of like Vanilla Sky, if you ever saw that. Those things are HIGHLY effective. People will at least be able to tolerate her presence in school, while she fills her mind with knowledge of the stars, or whatever her future passion may be. Hell, she could solve her own problem of surgical appearance, invent some new techniques, and help millions in the future, all due to her wanting to cure herself. And even then, it may only require 10 surgeries for her to be able to socialize with the majority of idiots out there. Not every ugly person in the world has a horrible life. If she can just get passed phase 1. Shes fucking 2 years old, theres no telling how she'll look in 10 years with or without surgery. Hell her natural aging process could fix a few things unexpectedly.

The ignorance level here is truely astonishing. I mean, why do i even bother. I know im talking to people under the age of 18, who have shit for life experience or real world practical knowledge. I just need to know if ive changed the mind of even one person slightly? Otherwise ill just assume the intelligence gap is too great, and they lack the proper synaptic connections in their little heads to comprehend the possibilities of anything i say. Much like your video card cant handle DX9 without the proper features being built into it, you cant understand common sense when it is above your reach.


yes, because anyone not directly in line with you or heading in that direction lacks intelligence. spoken by a true genius.

yeah, you're scenario is pretty and all, but she has just the same probability of drowning in her misery. being made fun of. dwelling on it for all of her life. hating everyone in her world. hating living, being alive, and wishing she were dead. she could kill somebody else to release her feelings. she could do anything. i could come up with the most grim and illogical scenario just the same as you can draw your picture of perfect. but again, this world is not accepting of change.


Exactly, its a 50/50 chance. And people want to have her killed? That's absolute bullshit. I cringed when I saw her, and even though I"m not Christian or anything, I thought the line about "God gives us only what we can carry" mildly appropriate, maybe if they weren't Christian they would dump her in a dumpster or something, you know?
too easy
FrEaK[S.sIR]
Profile Joined October 2002
2373 Posts
December 16 2004 12:18 GMT
#160
I'd just like to note that Stephen Hawking lived a completely healthy life for a good while, he didn't become severely handicapped until well into his life and long after he found his passion. He should be disregarded because he found reason to live BEFORE he became what he is now.

I only believe that the truly mentally retarded, the ones who are basically vegetables, have no point to live. There are 2 boys at my school who can't walk, talk, listen, don't respond to anything you do. Basically all they do is drool all over themselves. I have even talked to their care takers and they agree the 2 boys really have no reason to live besides their parents would feel guilty. These are the ones who shouldn't be put through it.

This girl, though I highly doubt she will, CAN live a happy life. She would just need to be sheltered from society for a good portion of it.

and n00bsaibot, don't use things like "she could cure cancer" and shit like that. That just makes baal pull something equally as farfetched out of his ass. Be realistic. Siddhartha Gautama(aka Gautama Buddha) lived quite a happy life in solitude. You can even say she can find somebody and whatnot. Let's not claim she will do something that would make her the most influential person in the modern world, it makes the discussion more stupid than it already is.
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