Very similiar UFO sighting across the world - Page 16

OP wrote: I realize most UFO sightings are a hoax, but I think SOME these are convincingly real.

OP wrote: Open your mind.

On April 17 2011 01:34 bahl sofs tiil wrote:


Oh, I don't believe any of this crap is aliens. The only thing I find less plausible is that our current understanding of the universe is advanced enough to make a statement like "interstellar travel is simply never going to happen".

On April 17 2011 07:39 fight_or_flight wrote:
It is extremely dubious to try and understand alien motivations, and therefore any actions they may take. It may be like a kid trying to understand the motivations of an adult - not really possible.

For example, odds are if they are here, they've always been here. A millennium or two isn't very long on a galactic time scale.

On April 17 2011 07:32 Dagobert wrote:
Oh goodness.


I realise all UFO sightings are nonsense, but I think SOME people do not.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBUc_kATGgg

On April 17 2011 08:04 MidKnight wrote:


Religious folks try to use same argument as to why "God" from the Bible is so suspiciously primitive.

Sure, let's say we can't understand higher reasonings of civilizations million times more advanced than us, but if certain things don't make sense even to a relatively primitive race like us, they shouldn't make sense to higher beings either

On April 17 2011 08:09 Xanarial wrote:
I'm the first person to be skeptical when it comes to shit like this, but some of this stuff is unexplainable and downright scary. Saying that it's all "nonsense" and dismissing it all as ridiculous/impossible is simply stupid when thought about in hindsight.

On April 17 2011 08:30 Pixilated wrote:

If you really believe that these "sightings" are unexplainable, it's because you haven't sought an explanation. Find the date and time and location of each of these "sightings" (or if it's a particularly famous sighting, it might even have its own name), do a google search on it, and read the probably well evidenced naturalistic explanation for it. If the "sighting" doesn't even tell you a date or time and/or a location, then it's entirely useless as evidence. We would have no way of researching the "sighting", and no way of knowing whether or not it was just somebody with even rudimentary video editing skills posting their stuff on youtube to mess with people.

And if you search rigorously and still can find no explanation for it, then the stance you ought to take is "I cannot explain this video, and will therefore hold off on making any judgments until I acquire more information or new evidence that allows me to understand this," not "Oh shit it's aliens."

I'm the first person to be skeptical when it comes to shit like this, but some of this stuff is unexplainable and downright scary. Saying that it's all "nonsense" and dismissing it all as ridiculous/impossible is simply stupid when thought about in hindsight.

You've missed my point entirely. I don't believe in Aliens enough to allow me to justify these videos, and I don't pretend to. Instead I question how you can dismiss that which cannot be explained outright as most hoaxes can. It's good to be skeptical, and to question that which there is no reasonable evidence. But when it comes to Extraterrestrial Life, a subject that no one can be sure of, one way or the other, because of the lack of evidence, you should be skeptical to both sides, and weighing them up equally.

On April 17 2011 08:58 Thorakh wrote:
Concluding anything else than 'it is unexplainable' from an unexplainable thing is just plain idiotic. Yeah, sure, it might be that aliens are making fancy lights in our skies, randomly abducting people and mutilating cows, but that possibility is neligible. Government or hoax are a million times more likely than aliens.

So, untill aliens land in our backyards (which would actually provide credible evidence), all people that believe in these UFO stories are too opendminded (as in all crap gets in too).

We don't dismiss anything that cannot be explained as hoaxes. We're just saying it's a million times more likely that it's a hoax/government/weather thing than aliens.

On April 17 2011 08:58 Thorakh wrote:
Concluding anything else than 'it is unexplainable' from an unexplainable thing is just plain idiotic. Yeah, sure, it might be that aliens are making fancy lights in our skies, randomly abducting people and mutilating cows, but that possibility is neligible. Government or hoax are a million times more likely than aliens.

So, untill aliens land in our backyards (which would actually provide credible evidence), all people that believe in these UFO stories are too opendminded (as in all crap gets in too).

We don't dismiss anything that cannot be explained as hoaxes. We're just saying it's a million times more likely that it's a hoax/government/weather thing than aliens.

On April 17 2011 09:12 Xanarial wrote:


Tbh you're not qualified to say that "it's a million times more likely that it's a hoax/government/weather thing than aliens."

I'm not trying to convince you that these are Aliens or that there is sufficient evidence to say that they exist, I'm trying to say that nothing is certain and having an open mind is the best way to consider videos like this. But hey, ignorance is bliss right?

ridiculous.

im not saying aliens are to blame for anything, but saying the government did it is just as idiotic. why would the government be randomly mutilating animals and randomly cutting holes in the ground with lazer persission?

and you would think that throwing the public into a mass panic by blowing up top secret missiles over a city would be the last thing the government would want.

and i doubt its the military either. why the hell would the millitary want flying object that light up the entire sky? in order to give away there position to the enemy like jackasses? id think not.

On April 17 2011 09:26 Thorakh wrote:
Having your mind open too much will make crap fall into it (like those videos). Also, how many times have we seen real evidence of aliens? And now think of how many times people have debunked 'UFO' sightings. Yeah, that's right, I'm pretty sure the chances of it being aliens are MUCH smaller than the chance of it being hoax/government/weather/anything else human or nature related.

But sure, keep having your mind open so that this sort of crap can fall into it

The day aliens land and/or governments around the world acknowledge they exists is the day there will be enough credible evidence to suggest aliens may actually visit earth.

On April 17 2011 09:26 Thorakh wrote:
Having your mind open too much will make crap fall into it (like those videos). Also, how many times have we seen real evidence of aliens? And now think of how many times people have debunked 'UFO' sightings. Yeah, that's right, I'm pretty sure the chances of it being aliens are MUCH smaller than the chance of it being hoax/government/weather/anything else human or nature related.

But sure, keep having your mind open so that this sort of crap can fall into it

The day aliens land and/or governments around the world acknowledge they exists is the day there will be enough credible evidence to suggest aliens may actually visit earth.

ROFL! Nowhere did I say the government mutilates cows or blows up missilies above cities. It's all about possibility. What's more likely, an insane person cutting up some cows or motherfucking aliens showing dem cows whos boss? What's more likely, some weird weather phenomenom or badass aliens joyriding through our skies? Seriously...

On April 17 2011 07:55 heishe wrote:
Reading these kinds of threads is always pretty funny.

In German there is a nice little phrase concerning "open-mindedness" that not many people know - "Absolut offen oder eher nicht ganz dicht?". There's no way to translate that literally, but I can try to explain it: The phrase uses the property of the attributes in that sentence to make a nice word play on people with supposed "absolutely open minds" by implying that they are in fact just idiots.




Comparing our outlook on science to that of times when people still believe the earth was flat is like comparing physics to religion.

Back then when people were wondering about the physical properties of the world they live in, they were simply making wild assumptions and unfounded statements about all kinds of stuff without having any kind of logically sound framework behind it. Today if we make any statements at all concerning physics, they are based on rigorous logical methods and most importantly, math. And once we make these statements, today we actually have the tools to prove or disprove them, which people "back then" (it's a lose timeframe, but think pre-middle ages era) simply didn't have.

And because of that we most certainly have reason to be "arrogant enough" to conclude that for now, faster than light travel is probably impossible and will be for the infinite future. Of course, anyone in their right minds is going to agree that there is a chance that we have in fact left a couple of things undiscovered which may give rise to new physical phenomena which can be used for FTL travel, but that acknowledgement is like the one when you acknowledge that you might in fact die if you cross that street in front of you.

But to understand this all those "alien-believers" would actually have to have a solid knowledge in physics (and to an extent, astrophysics), which they don't. There is very sound and solid evidence speaking against everything they believe in, but trying to make them understand that is like trying to teach human language to apes.

On April 17 2011 07:55 heishe wrote:
Comparing our outlook on science to that of times when people still believe the earth was flat is like comparing physics to religion.

And because of that we most certainly have reason to be "arrogant enough" to conclude that for now, faster than light travel is probably impossible and will be for the infinite future. Of course, anyone in their right minds is going to agree that there is a chance that we have in fact left a couple of things undiscovered which may give rise to new physical phenomena which can be used for FTL travel, but that acknowledgement is like the one when you acknowledge that you might in fact die if you cross that street in front of you.