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2011 Canadian Election - Page 24
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
liberal, lol... | ||
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IamAnton
Canada335 Posts
no just anti-separatist | ||
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
On May 03 2011 12:07 StoLiVe wrote: We vote for the party who seems the better for us. Most of the federal party don't give a shit about us *cough Harper *cough He already say he don't want us in the canada, but we give give money to him so he keep us but don't give us right Uh what? He has never once stated he didnt want quebec as part of Canada, that would be political suicide. Furthermore, Canada transfers money too quebec, not vice versa. Unless Im misunderstanding what you are trying to say? If so please clarify Quebec has better grants and more provincial control over just about any legislation in Canada. You literally have more special rights than that average Canadian. For example, Provincial grant for francophone parents who have more than one child. Nobody else did or will get that. It also happens to be true. Three quarters of it, that is. Hello healthcare reform, espionage legislature, and First Nations issues. I will give you abortion, though. All riding on the back of years of scandalous behaviour in Parliament What are you talking about? Healthcare reform is desperatly needed, unless you want to continue with 12 hour wait times in hospital beds. First nations issues have been a problem for 50 years, and remember there was a liberal government less than 8 years ago. Yet you seem to insuate that the conservative government created the problem and is making it worse? I'd like to see a source for that. As for your last statement about abortion and parliment I have no idea what point you are trying to make, so I will ignore it. | ||
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
On May 03 2011 12:20 Malikari wrote: Also, the french language translator sounds like Microsoft Sam yeah lol xD that,s why i'm listening in english I hate any kind of translator | ||
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Galleon.frigate
Canada721 Posts
On May 03 2011 12:18 Malikari wrote: Anyone watching Ignatieff's speech on CBC right now? The most human I've ever heard him sound. I think he's a decent guy, I wouldn't vote for him this election.... he should have run for parletment, takening a shadow ministry and serve for an election cycle before moving for the leadership. He's someone I'd want in politics for canada, but no where near the pm seat, and you see that today... well along with a few other issues | ||
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On May 03 2011 12:12 Glaven wrote: - So, lets say theoretically a mother is widowed and left with two young children and therefore cannot both care for her children and work? I guess maybe she should have thought of that first! I guess people with lower incomes should not have the pleasure of having children if they can't afford daycare! I guess people who come upon hard economic times should have planned better! - Wat, so you say 1.4 billion dollars is a drop in the bucket... but cutting 1.2 billion from healthcare should be vehemently opposed because "poor people shouldn't have children" (i'm paraphrasing). And where did you read that tax breaks are passed on to the consumer? - Wtf are you talking about - We could go on for days about military expenditure but the point is that believe it or not, new jets will not make us safer. The widowed woman's husband should have taken out a life insurance policy the minute he was responsible for dependents. And no, low-income people should NOT have the "pleasure of having children" if they can't afford it. I bought a dog 4 years ago, but before I did, I had to get a new job, work in it long enough to build up a savings account, and earn myself some job-security so that I could make the 10-15 year commitment of caring for him. If or when I decide to have children, I will ensure that I have the means, and the support to have as much of a chance of raising my children as possible, because that is my DUTY to society. I don't WANT to be a burden on society, and so I work towards making responsible decisions so that I don't have to lean on the public purse. Our healthcare system is a mess and it can't be sustained by tax-dollars alone. We have to seriously look at making reforms to our system and embrace a more european-style health-care system with a mix of public and private clinics to handle the inevitable influx of costs that are associated with our aging population. I mixed up the Kelowna accord with the Kyoto Protocol, I edited my post. There are very few things that will actually make us safer in this world. The world is a cruel place with a small percentage of extremely violent people who want to kill others in a grab for power and control. You're right that we could go on for days, but letting our air force fly around in old planes that are breaking down (much like our old leaky second-hand submarines the Liberals purchased) is not the correct decision either. | ||
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Legend`
Canada381 Posts
thought NDP would just edge the liberals with conservatives taking a majority, but not by that much. good to see the bloc collapse though - hopefully they disband | ||
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
you have to agree that those aren't mutually exclusive, that anti separatism can be anti democratic, in enforcing another group to stay in the country beyond their own will | ||
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
On May 03 2011 12:21 Darpa wrote: Uh what? He has never once stated he didnt want quebec as part of Canada, that would be political suicide. Furthermore, Canada transfers money too quebec, not vice versa. Unless Im misunderstanding what you are trying to say? If so please clarify Quebec has better grants and more provincial control over just about any legislation in Canada. You literally have more special rights than that average Canadian. For example, Provincial grant for francophone parents who have more than one child. Nobody else did or will get that. What are you talking about? Healthcare reform is desperatly needed, unless you want to continue with 12 hour wait times in hospital beds. First nations issues have been a problem for 50 years, and remember there was a liberal government less than 8 years ago. Yet you seem to insuate that the conservative government created the problem and is making it worse? I'd like to see a source for that. As for your last statement about abortion and parliment I have no idea what point you are trying to make, so I will ignore it. Yes he say he don't care about quebec. If you watch the vote result in quebec almost anybody vote for conservative here. I aggre they give us money but we are usefull for him with the electricity and with the potential of the gas from shale | ||
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
Goodbye to public healthcare, the cbc, social programs, any hope we had for strong environmental policy... Hello to megaprisons, more military spending, lower corporate taxes, concentrated power and further assault on democratic traditions. | ||
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
On May 03 2011 12:25 StoLiVe wrote: Yes he say he don't care about quebec. If you want to see that almost nobody vote for conservative here. I aggre they give us money but we are usefull for him with the electricity and with the potential of the gas from shale Can you source that statement? Because if its true I would really like to know. That would be appalling. But you are contradicting yourself? first you are saying that he doesnt want you, then saying he wants you for shale gas and electricity? Which is it  | ||
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Xafnia
Canada874 Posts
On May 03 2011 12:22 Nemireck wrote: The widowed woman's husband should have taken out a life insurance policy the minute he was responsible for dependents. And no, low-income people should NOT have the "pleasure of having children" if they can't afford it. I bought a dog 4 years ago, but before I did, I had to get a new job, work in it long enough to build up a savings account, and earn myself some job-security so that I could make the 10-15 year commitment of caring for him. If or when I decide to have children, I will ensure that I have the means, and the support to have as much of a chance of raising my children as possible, because that is my DUTY to society. I don't WANT to be a burden on society, and so I work towards making responsible decisions so that I don't have to lean on the public purse. So you think child that has irresponsible parents doesn't deserve to be properly fed? | ||
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Dawski
Canada435 Posts
On May 03 2011 12:24 Roe wrote: you have to agree that those aren't mutually exclusive, that anti separatism can be anti democratic, in enforcing another group to stay in the country beyond their own will i would be pro-separatist if they would accept that if they leave they would have to take their fair share of the national debt, thats why i hate Quebec as a province (not the people) they get the most rights/get money thrown at them on a platter, canada doesnt get money from Quebec we just give it to them | ||
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
If you're anti-me, why can't I just leave? Paradox. | ||
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Freaky[x]
Canada995 Posts
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Adaptation
Canada427 Posts
On May 03 2011 12:27 caradoc wrote: Well, we now live in a fascist state. Goodbye to public healthcare, the cbc, social programs, any hope we had for strong environmental policy... Hello to megaprisons, more military spending, lower corporate taxes, concentrated power and further assault on democratic traditions. Woa woa. Calm the **** down. healthcare and the cbc is not going anywhere. You will still have hockey night in canada, don't worry. Yes it sucks that the military will get that much money when it could have went to environmental&energy improvement. Lower corporate taxes is not as bad as it seems, if it can help enterprise grow in canada this will be important. One thing for sure, the Bloc went from 44 to 3, which effectively shows that the seperatist movement of quebec is truly a thing of the past. Goodbye the bloc. | ||
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Kolvacs
Canada1203 Posts
On May 03 2011 12:30 Freaky[x] wrote: canada has just said ... money is worth more than anything else in the world and rich people deserve better and more things than middle / lower class Or they said that they want a government that is concerned about the economy. - People are blowing this shit WAY our of proportion. This isn't the first Conservative Majority EVER. | ||
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Toads
Canada1795 Posts
On May 03 2011 12:28 Darpa wrote: Can you source that statement? Because if its true I would really like to know. That would be appalling. But you are contradicting yourself? first you are saying that he doesnt want you, then saying he wants you for shale gas and electricity? Which is it I don't see he don't want us. I say he don't care about us There's what i'm talming about : http://www.globalmontreal.com/Layton Harper differ Quebec Constitution priority/4677022/story.html Quebec is not in the constitution and he do not want the quebec in it | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
On May 03 2011 12:30 Freaky[x] wrote: canada has just said ... money is worth more than anything else in the world and rich people deserve better and more things than middle / lower class Not me, I didn't vote Conservative! | ||
Falling
Canada11575 Posts
On May 03 2011 12:17 antelope591 wrote: Kinda funny how harper gains total power while obamas heading for a second term in the states. Arent we supposed to be the liberal socialists? Lol. Well we'll see how things pan out in the next couple of years. Can always go across the border if things really get bad altho I doubt they will Actually, personally, I see the Democrats as a touch further right than even our Conservatives. As far as I'm concerned, Americans don't have a left party, just right and ultra-right. | ||
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