On May 03 2011 11:54 Dawski wrote: Very happy with this, finally a majority government that can actually get something done.
That something will, sadly, be nothing good, if you're a woman, a minority, are planning on getting sick, or care about your privacy. Or the integrity of our democracy, come to think of it.
That is pure sensationalist crap. Normally I am fairly accomodating for peoples opinions, but that is just slander and offensive to almost any democratic Canadian.
On other note. I'm actually fairly proud of quebec Canada atm. They finally voted for a federal party, I really hope that it will strengthen some of the ties there.
how is that offensive to a democratic canadian? it's ironic how the thing he's talking about is offensive to a democratic canadian, yet you say the fact that he's saying it is offensive. please make a better argument.
On May 03 2011 12:00 Nemireck wrote: The Kelowna accord was a farce from the beginning. The Liberal government never had ANY intention of actually following through with their commitments, and in fact, our emissions ROSE every single year since signing the accord. Our country only emits 2% of the world's green-house gases, and without countries like India, China, and the USA on board, ANY agreement like the Kelowna accord is a waste of time.
Just so you know, the Kelowna Accord and the Kyoto Protocol are two different things.
YAY! Conservative majority!! And GG to the bloc and the liberal party. They dead. Time to write my MP about all the social policies I disagree with though.
On May 03 2011 11:56 Kralic wrote: Majority government is a good thing, it will bring stability to our Country for the term which we need desperately. If the Country is in trouble at the end of this term I will eat crow.
The fact that the Conservatives were slammed for purchasing fighter jets the Liberals promised the Joint Task Force nations we would purchase once the project is complete.
The fact we are in debt all due to the Conservatives that took over and found so many books that were not kept clean from the past government.
I just fail to see how having a majority government is a bad thing when they have kept us going through out the recession.
The liberals did not help them selves by making Iggy their leader anyway. NDP got lucky the Liberals made such a poor choice tbh.
stability at the cost of what, though? chaos in a non-democratic government is much more welcomed by me than a stable, corrupt one.
On May 03 2011 12:05 StoLiVe wrote: Now I really want to change my country. I don't want to see harper to be in the lead of the country
i guess i'll have to speed up my plans of moving to Japan, i had kinda wanted to wait till the radiation dissipated a bit, but i'd rather take the radiation.
On May 03 2011 11:58 Darpa wrote: On other note. I'm actually fairly proud of quebec Canada atm. They finally voted for a federal party, I really hope that it will strengthen some of the ties there.
We vote for the party who seems the better for us. Most of the federal party don't give a shit about us *cough Harper *cough
He already say he don't want us in the canada, but we give give money to him so he keep us but don't give us right
On May 03 2011 11:54 Dawski wrote: Very happy with this, finally a majority government that can actually get something done.
That something will, sadly, be nothing good, if you're a woman, a minority, are planning on getting sick, or care about your privacy. Or the integrity of our democracy, come to think of it.
That is pure sensationalist crap. Normally I am fairly accomodating for peoples opinions, but that is just slander and offensive to almost any democratic Canadian.
It also happens to be true. Three quarters of it, that is. Hello healthcare reform, espionage legislature, and First Nations issues. I will give you abortion, though. All riding on the back of years of scandalous behaviour in Parliament.
On May 03 2011 11:44 Steel wrote: This is depressing
I can't believe you'd vote conservative after all the FACTS that have been presented about the Conservative government...or the Liberal Government.
What facts? Harper is doing a pretty good job in my opinion. The alternatives are either an unproven party with pro-union tendencies, or a cynical Conservative lite party with populist tendencies.
In 2007, Harper cut $1.2 Billion for quality national childcare.
He never kept his promise to cut the $1.4 billion in tax breaks he gives to oil companies
The Kelowna accord was a $5 billion breakthrough agreement to improve the quality of health and education for Canada's First Nation's Peoples. Harper canceled it in 2006, immediately after taking office
Harper cut science research funding by $138 Million
Stephen Harper wants to buy 65 stealth fighter jets with 29 billion of our dollars?
Idk just look it up there's worthy articles everywhere
Good, why should I have to pay for other people's children? If you can't afford to care for them, use birth control.
1.4 billion is a drop in the bucket, and helps to keep our gas prices low.
The Kelowna accord was a farce from the beginning. The Liberal government never had ANY intention of actually following through with their commitments, and in fact, our emissions ROSE every single year since signing the accord. Our country only emits 2% of the world's green-house gases, and without countries like India, China, and the USA on board, ANY agreement like the Kelowna accord is a waste of time.
Cuts to science and research were indeed unfortunate
Ya, we should never update our military equipment. We should cut all spending and equip our Canada geese with hellfire missiles to defend our country.
Get real.
Your funny xD conservative is against birth controle. So how can it work
No they aren't. Do you even know what the parties actually stand for?
While people who vote conservative are represented by a large religious base, even most religious institutions are no longer discouraging the use of birth control (although abortion is opposed, Harper has promised not to bring up that issue, or Gay marriage for that matter).
There are bigger issues to be dealt with; skyrocketing government spending forced on us by the liberals and NDP when the recession hit, the ballooning size of our government, the exponentially increasing costs of our health care system that can not by sustained by tax-dollars alone, senate reform, our ridiculous immigration system... The list goes on, and the conservatives are in a better position than any of the parties on the left when it comes to making the decisions that MUST be made in all of these areas.
On May 03 2011 12:00 Nemireck wrote: The Kelowna accord was a farce from the beginning. The Liberal government never had ANY intention of actually following through with their commitments, and in fact, our emissions ROSE every single year since signing the accord. Our country only emits 2% of the world's green-house gases, and without countries like India, China, and the USA on board, ANY agreement like the Kelowna accord is a waste of time.
Just so you know, the Kelowna Accord and the Kyoto Protocol are two different things.
Fuckin eh GG... You're absolutely right I mixed them up.
On May 03 2011 11:44 Steel wrote: This is depressing
I can't believe you'd vote conservative after all the FACTS that have been presented about the Conservative government...or the Liberal Government.
What facts? Harper is doing a pretty good job in my opinion. The alternatives are either an unproven party with pro-union tendencies, or a cynical Conservative lite party with populist tendencies.
In 2007, Harper cut $1.2 Billion for quality national childcare.
He never kept his promise to cut the $1.4 billion in tax breaks he gives to oil companies
The Kelowna accord was a $5 billion breakthrough agreement to improve the quality of health and education for Canada's First Nation's Peoples. Harper canceled it in 2006, immediately after taking office
Harper cut science research funding by $138 Million
Stephen Harper wants to buy 65 stealth fighter jets with 29 billion of our dollars?
Idk just look it up there's worthy articles everywhere
Good, why should I have to pay for other people's children? If you can't afford to care for them, use birth control.
1.4 billion is a drop in the bucket, and helps to keep our gas prices low.
The Kelowna accord was a farce from the beginning. The Liberal government never had ANY intention of actually following through with their commitments, and in fact, our emissions ROSE every single year since signing the accord. Our country only emits 2% of the world's green-house gases, and without countries like India, China, and the USA on board, ANY agreement like the Kelowna accord is a waste of time.
Cuts to science and research were indeed unfortunate
Ya, we should never update our military equipment. We should cut all spending and equip our Canada geese with hellfire missiles to defend our country.
Get real.
Your funny xD conservative is against birth controle. So how can it work
No they aren't. Do you even know what the parties actually stand for?
While people who vote conservative are represented by a large religious base, even most religious institutions are no longer discouraging the use of birth control (although abortion is opposed, Harper has promised not to bring up that issue, or Gay marriage for that matter).
There are bigger issues to be dealt with; skyrocketing government spending forced on us by the liberals and NDP when the recession hit, the ballooning size of our government, the exponentially increasing costs of our health care system that can not by sustained by tax-dollars alone, senate reform, our ridiculous immigration system... The list goes on, and the conservatives are in a better position than any of the parties on the left when it comes to making the decisions that MUST be made in all of these areas.
Do you realise since Harper is at the lead he still lie to us. You can't prove he wont
Now the his majotary he can do anything he want and we can't do anything about that
and look guys can people please stop mentioning that they are going to move out of the country? It has got to be the #1 most annoying phrase of all time on election day.
If you are serious then just go do it and leave all us actual canadians behind and then there would be no point to say it on a random canadian thread since you dont affiliate with us anymore.
Edit: also if any quebecer seriously complains about lack of government help i dont know what to say...do you know how much money canada throws at quebec compared to provinces that deserve that money way more?? (cough* BC and alberta cough*)
Ignatieff resigns tomorrow morning, 100% guaranteed. Over the entire country, theres only the conservative and liberal parties have any real chance of being elected, and given how weak the liberals were this time the result isn't surprising at all.
On May 03 2011 11:44 Steel wrote: This is depressing
I can't believe you'd vote conservative after all the FACTS that have been presented about the Conservative government...or the Liberal Government.
What facts? Harper is doing a pretty good job in my opinion. The alternatives are either an unproven party with pro-union tendencies, or a cynical Conservative lite party with populist tendencies.
In 2007, Harper cut $1.2 Billion for quality national childcare.
He never kept his promise to cut the $1.4 billion in tax breaks he gives to oil companies
The Kelowna accord was a $5 billion breakthrough agreement to improve the quality of health and education for Canada's First Nation's Peoples. Harper canceled it in 2006, immediately after taking office
Harper cut science research funding by $138 Million
Stephen Harper wants to buy 65 stealth fighter jets with 29 billion of our dollars?
Idk just look it up there's worthy articles everywhere
Good, why should I have to pay for other people's children? If you can't afford to care for them, use birth control.
1.4 billion is a drop in the bucket, and helps to keep our gas prices low.
The Kelowna accord was a farce from the beginning. The Liberal government never had ANY intention of actually following through with their commitments, and in fact, our emissions ROSE every single year since signing the accord. Our country only emits 2% of the world's green-house gases, and without countries like India, China, and the USA on board, ANY agreement like the Kelowna accord is a waste of time.
Cuts to science and research were indeed unfortunate
Ya, we should never update our military equipment. We should cut all spending and equip our Canada geese with hellfire missiles to defend our country.
Get real.
- So, lets say theoretically a mother is widowed and left with two young children and therefore cannot both care for her children and work? I guess maybe she should have thought of that first! I guess people with lower incomes should not have the pleasure of having children if they can't afford daycare! I guess people who come upon hard economic times should have planned better!
- Wat, so you say 1.4 billion dollars is a drop in the bucket... but cutting 1.2 billion from childcare should be vehemently opposed because "poor people shouldn't have children" (i'm paraphrasing). And where did you read that tax breaks are passed on to the consumer?
- Wtf are you talking about
- We could go on for days about military expenditure but the point is that believe it or not, new jets will not make us safer.
On May 03 2011 11:54 Dawski wrote: Very happy with this, finally a majority government that can actually get something done.
That something will, sadly, be nothing good, if you're a woman, a minority, are planning on getting sick, or care about your privacy. Or the integrity of our democracy, come to think of it.
That is pure sensationalist crap. Normally I am fairly accomodating for peoples opinions, but that is just slander and offensive to almost any democratic Canadian.
On other note. I'm actually fairly proud of quebec Canada atm. They finally voted for a federal party, I really hope that it will strengthen some of the ties there.
how is that offensive to a democratic canadian? it's ironic how the thing he's talking about is offensive to a democratic canadian, yet you say the fact that he's saying it is offensive. please make a better argument.
Because he is insinuating that anyone who voted for a conservative government believes and knowinglyh contributed to the repression and maltreatment of Women, Minorities, The Elderly or democratic process. Its pure trash posting.
His argument was based only in exageration and has zero merit in fact. Its appalling that you would defend a statement like that. You called me out for not supporting for an argument when he posts like that? Free speech is part of democracy, but that doesnt mean That its counter intuative to democratic principles. And it doesnt mean it wont offend others and or shit on their beliefs.
EPT
