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On May 03 2011 11:46 RezChi wrote:
Paul Martin (Liberal) left us with a huge amount of money when he stepped down, when the Conservatives came up, we got in debt... Can't people tell how bad that was?
And what? 70 billion dollars of extra spending promises of government social programs is the solution to our debt problem?
The double-speak that spews from the mouths of those on the left is perplexing.
I wish Ignatieff had campaigned as the small-c conservative he actually is 
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Really happy that the NDP gained so much ground (voted for them myself), but really sad to see a Conservative majority. Hopefully though they do something regarding UBB since it was a big factor for me when I voted NDP.
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Majority government is a good thing, it will bring stability to our Country for the term which we need desperately. If the Country is in trouble at the end of this term I will eat crow.
The fact that the Conservatives were slammed for purchasing fighter jets the Liberals promised the Joint Task Force nations we would purchase once the project is complete.
The fact we are in debt all due to the Conservatives that took over and found so many books that were not kept clean from the past government.
I just fail to see how having a majority government is a bad thing when they have kept us going through out the recession.
The liberals did not help them selves by making Iggy their leader anyway. NDP got lucky the Liberals made such a poor choice tbh.
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Conservative majority is the best case scenario tbh. NDP winning is not possible, so it was either Conservative majority, conservative minority, or coalition.
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Truly a sad day for our country, whether you guys realize it or not. This will slow down our progress. Maybe I'm biased because I'm from Quebec, but it's a real problem. That disgusting party just got a majority WHILE losing seats in my province. I am fucked.
I'm pissed. This is awful. FML.
I hate this country.
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On May 03 2011 11:50 Darpa wrote:
Pretty happy with this result, Conservative majority to prevent votes every 2 years. NDP as the official opposistion with good support to keep the Conservatives on their toes.
I think the NDP made such gains because the liberal leadership has been so lousy the last few years.
That and Im soooo glad to see the bloc with 4 seats.
@ Purplehazex,
You essentially do for everything on the provincial level. Every rule for the rest of Canada has exceptions and differen't process in quebec. On the federal level, quebec will not seperate until they are willing to take accountability as a country.
The last time Quebec tried to seperate they essentially told Canada that they would take care of everything except Transfer payments and Defense. If you want to be a seperate country, thats fine, but that means losing around 8.5 billion a year in government subsidies from other provinces and spending your own funds for an armed forces. Which, as far as I am aware, Quebec could not afford to lose those transfer payments or fund an armed forces. Those are major hurdles to climb That and convincing a good portion of quebecers that dont want to seperate to become "Quebecois" instead of Canadians.
There is a bit more than that.
Another issue is that they would also lose the identity of "Canadian". As far as I know, Canada's international reputation is decent. To segregate means that they have to find their own image in the world. Not an easy task, I have to say.
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I foresee this thread getting out of hand just like every other political discussion does.
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On May 03 2011 11:55 Nightfall.589 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 11:54 Dawski wrote:
Very happy with this, finally a majority government that can actually get something done. That something will, sadly, be nothing good, if you're a woman, a minority, are planning on getting sick, or care about your privacy. Or the integrity of our democracy, come to think of it.
That is pure sensationalist crap. Normally I am fairly accomodating for peoples opinions, but that is just slander and offensive to almost any democratic Canadian.
On other note. I'm actually fairly proud of quebec Canada atm. They finally voted for a federal party, I really hope that it will strengthen some of the ties there.
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On May 03 2011 11:54 Dawski wrote:
Very happy with this, finally a majority government that can actually get something done.
This entire situation kinda looked like a giant stephen harper troll face though aha
-spend lots of money to get vote of non-confidence
-get a majority
-?????
-profit
I don't trust the conservative; they are lying in your face. I was listening to one of the conservative speech on the tv and he said the whole election was started by the opposition when the Conservative intended to start the election to get a majority.
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On May 03 2011 11:49 Pelopidas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 11:44 Steel wrote:
This is depressing
I can't believe you'd vote conservative after all the FACTS that have been presented about the Conservative government...or the Liberal Government. What facts? Harper is doing a pretty good job in my opinion. The alternatives are either an unproven party with pro-union tendencies, or a cynical Conservative lite party with populist tendencies.
What facts? And what's wrong with unions again?
Harper's government:
- Violated election laws, as is consistent with their flagrant disregard for democracy
- Cutting programs and spending for such services as national childcare, health standards on reserves and other programs aimed at disenfranchised groups
- Covering up their disregard for human rights after knowingly handing over afghan prisoners to authorities that used torture
- Economic policies which favor the rich (of course)
- Implementing deregulation policies and supporting further deregulation
The list goes on.
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On May 03 2011 11:55 Steel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 11:49 Pelopidas wrote:On May 03 2011 11:44 Steel wrote:
This is depressing
I can't believe you'd vote conservative after all the FACTS that have been presented about the Conservative government...or the Liberal Government. What facts? Harper is doing a pretty good job in my opinion. The alternatives are either an unproven party with pro-union tendencies, or a cynical Conservative lite party with populist tendencies. In 2007, Harper cut $1.2 Billion for quality national childcare. He never kept his promise to cut the $1.4 billion in tax breaks he gives to oil companies The Kelowna accord was a $5 billion breakthrough agreement to improve the quality of health and education for Canada's First Nation's Peoples. Harper canceled it in 2006, immediately after taking office Harper cut science research funding by $138 Million Stephen Harper wants to buy 65 stealth fighter jets with 29 billion of our dollars? Idk just look it up there's worthy articles everywhere
Good, why should I have to pay for other people's children? If you can't afford to care for them, use birth control.
1.4 billion is a drop in the bucket, and helps to keep our gas prices low.
The Kelowna accord was a $5 billion waste of money. Most of the money is doled out by corrupt first-nations "leaders", much like the foreign aid that goes to 3rd world countries is controlled by corrupt regimes that keep the money for themselves, or to fund violent extremist groups who use the money to harm those in, or who support, the west.
Cuts to science and research were indeed unfortunate
Ya, we should never update our military equipment. We should cut all spending and equip our Canada geese with hellfire missiles to defend our country.
Get real.
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On May 03 2011 11:56 Chairman Ray wrote:
Conservative majority is the best case scenario tbh. NDP winning is not possible, so it was either Conservative majority, conservative minority, or coalition.
Yeah now, we wont be able to abort, there will be weapon every where. No more money for culture ( witch i'm studying in, so less job for me ) only because Harper is a douch
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On May 03 2011 11:55 Nightfall.589 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 11:54 Dawski wrote:
Very happy with this, finally a majority government that can actually get something done. That something will, sadly, be nothing good, if you're a woman, a minority, are planning on getting sick, or care about your privacy. Or the integrity of our democracy, come to think of it.
Those are small prices to pay for me being able to work in a steady economy and put food on the table as a tradesman, we cant throw money around like monopoly money in these shitty times. In fact "integrity of our democracy" can suffer for a bit in my honest opinion if after 12 years of hard work with one company im worried about being laid off.
and yes the opposition did start this entire election...the tories didnt plan on getting a vote of non-confidence which would waste even more money because they actually care about economic recovery
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For those who don't like the conservatives look at it this way: Either Harper does good which means your hate was unfounded, or he falls on his face and gets shut out next election.
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Classic example of everything that is wrong with the first past the post system. Opposition votes split. GG.
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On May 03 2011 12:00 Nemireck wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 11:55 Steel wrote:On May 03 2011 11:49 Pelopidas wrote:On May 03 2011 11:44 Steel wrote:
This is depressing
I can't believe you'd vote conservative after all the FACTS that have been presented about the Conservative government...or the Liberal Government. What facts? Harper is doing a pretty good job in my opinion. The alternatives are either an unproven party with pro-union tendencies, or a cynical Conservative lite party with populist tendencies. In 2007, Harper cut $1.2 Billion for quality national childcare. He never kept his promise to cut the $1.4 billion in tax breaks he gives to oil companies The Kelowna accord was a $5 billion breakthrough agreement to improve the quality of health and education for Canada's First Nation's Peoples. Harper canceled it in 2006, immediately after taking office Harper cut science research funding by $138 Million Stephen Harper wants to buy 65 stealth fighter jets with 29 billion of our dollars? Idk just look it up there's worthy articles everywhere Good, why should I have to pay for other people's children? If you can't afford to care for them, use birth control.
1.4 billion is a drop in the bucket, and helps to keep our gas prices low. The Kelowna accord was a farce from the beginning. The Liberal government never had ANY intention of actually following through with their commitments, and in fact, our emissions ROSE every single year since signing the accord. Our country only emits 2% of the world's green-house gases, and without countries like India, China, and the USA on board, ANY agreement like the Kelowna accord is a waste of time. Cuts to science and research were indeed unfortunate Ya, we should never update our military equipment. We should cut all spending and equip our Canada geese with hellfire missiles to defend our country. Get real.
Your funny xD conservative is against birth controle. So how can it work
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On May 03 2011 11:49 Pelopidas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2011 11:44 Steel wrote:
This is depressing
I can't believe you'd vote conservative after all the FACTS that have been presented about the Conservative government...or the Liberal Government. What facts? Harper is doing a pretty good job in my opinion. The alternatives are either an unproven party with pro-union tendencies, or a cynical Conservative lite party with populist tendencies.
the PC are also unproven. please tell me what good Harper did, and how that makes up for
http://shitharperdid.ca.nyud.net/
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Holy crap, did NDP ever explode. Wasn't too long ago there was a Liberal majority, and now NDP has 4x their seats, and is the opposition party.
I think that the majority here is by far the best thing that could have happened, but I'm very pleased with the NDP representation since I voted for them.
If the conservatives don't do exceptionally, an NDP government could be in the future. For better or worse.
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The Kelowna accord was a farce from the beginning. The Liberal government never had ANY intention of actually following through with their commitments, and in fact, our emissions ROSE every single year since signing the accord. Our country only emits 2% of the world's green-house gases, and without countries like India, China, and the USA on board, ANY agreement like the Kelowna accord is a waste of time.
It would appear as though you're confusing the Kelowna Accord with the Kyoto Accord.
The Kelowna Accord is not about cutting CO2 emissions, it's about providing First Nation's people with safe drinking water and adequate living conditions.
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